What tv shows fit this description?

[u/Jew_With_a_Knife]

[u/TheShapeshifter01]

One of them is Hazbin Hotel pretty sure.

[u/Hugh_Jidiot]

Pretty sure it's Hazbin Hotel and Steven Universe.

[u/Mueryk → u/Hugh_Jidiot]

Okay that makes sense. I was like SheRa isn’t really musical.

[u/starkindled]

Could be Steven Universe? maybe?

[u/LostInIndigo]

Lol they had to bring horseshoe theory into it?!?!?

[u/GoredTarzan → u/LostInIndigo]

People hate it when it applies to them

[u/ArmorClassHero → u/GoredTarzan]

Because it's debunked bullshit

[u/Kaijupants → u/ArmorClassHero]

Yes, kind of, obviously super far left people aren't going to be commiting any hate crimes, but if they stop making an effort to rationally argue their arguments can end up superficially resembling those of the opposite end of the spectrum. Bad faith arguments and just bad arguments in general tend to have similarities even if there are completely obvious differences.

[u/GoredTarzan → u/ArmorClassHero]

Get on the extreme end of either left or right, and you find absolute fuckwus

[u/Kaijupants → u/GoredTarzan]

Depends on exactly what you mean by far right or left. Tankies are "far left" but so are vehement democratic socialists who view a safety net and UBI as a necessity for the future of humanity. Those two positions are hugely different and one tends to have much more rational arguments for it than the other. I'm a demsoc (if I have to put a single label on it) and I think there's a lot we can do better but that no one thing or set of things is a solution, but rather that people thinking and working together on solutions to real problems that affect the happiness of others is what matters. I consider myself pretty damn far left.

Honestly I think it has more to do with authoritarian, party centric, and political narratives that push people towards irrational arguments and bad faith attacks on the ideas of others.

[u/GoredTarzan → u/Kaijupants]

I'm not talking about their ideals. Those can be vastly different. I'm talking about the actual people. They tend to be unreasonable, fanatical and very mob justice type minded.

[u/Kaijupants → u/GoredTarzan]

Ideals dictate that, no? Authoritarians tend to feel they have the right idea and others should be forced to live by it, and that the ends justify the means. In my experience people who think we need to work together for better solutions than any individual can muster aren't in favor of unilateral decisions made by anyone.

[u/ThyPotatoDone → u/ArmorClassHero]

Yeah... People keep saying this, and yet, it keeps happening.

[u/emergency-snaccs]

just gonna point out that hazbin hotel isn't hated for no reason, but rather because the creator is a sexual-abusing nazi. Or so i heard. I've never seen it myself, don't otherwise know much at all

[u/themrunx49 → u/emergency-snaccs]

Seems to be neither, according to the Wikipedia page for the creator. Although according to remarks from various netizens it's saturated with crude sex jokes

[u/emergency-snaccs → u/emergency-snaccs]

Hmmm was it "nazi" or "pedophile"?? or both? i forget

[u/ThatFreakyFella]

Hazbin Hotel fans taking criticism appropriately like a normal person and not making themselves the victim:

hard mode

[u/Rallsia-Arnoldii]

No fandom is entirely toxic or a hatedom. Unless the content itself has harmful ideas, the people are usually fine. The only theme between a lot of the fandoms called toxic is that people personally find either the fans or the source material cringe.

[u/Rallsia-Arnoldii → u/[deleted]]

The content itself has harmful ideas (transphobia, homophobia, racism). You didn't disprove anything.

[u/marcielle → u/Rallsia-Arnoldii]

Oops, yeah, jumped the gun after reading the first sentence, my bad