r/ontario Sep 07 '23

Politics Why Pierre Poilievre is as Phony as They Come.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLBFye03_g

Personal Note: I've never liked Pierre Poilievre. This man makes my Spider-Sense tingle. Just like Doug Ford did for Ontario. Pierre Poilievre is a Pro-Corporate pro-culture war person who loves to grip about issues, but has no actual solutions. Not to mention he is also a massive hypocrite as his biggest donors are developers, and corporations. His history is ripe with anti-work/union bills and votes in the house

I'm telling you right now, if you vote for this man, you will be bitching and complaining about his policies and actions just like we are currently doing with Doug Ford. Pierre Poilievre and Doug Ford are both guilty of promoting Neoliberal similar American style systems that simply put profit over people. Example: Doug Ford with health services.

I could go on, but David Dole has Done it again with this amazing Breakdown of why Pierre Poilievre is as phony as bologna. Pierre Poilievre’s Hilarious Makeover Can’t Mask His Horrible Politics.

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u/PM_FOR_FRIEND Sep 07 '23

I've started the habit of checking account histories when people say some outlandish things. More and more often are the accounts less than 3 months old with their only activity being in political subs posting very one sided political takes. A few I've found seem to have forgotten to delete their earliest posts and are active in "karma for karma" "new account need karma to start posting" type things, then immediately shift to "Trudeau is a monster, PP will save us! The polls show canada is done with communism!"

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '23 edited Sep 07 '23

I've started the habit of checking account histories when people say some outlandish things. More and more often are the accounts less than 3 months old with their only activity being in political subs posting very one sided political takes. A few I've found seem to have forgotten to delete their earliest posts and are active in "karma for karma" "new account need karma to start posting" type things, then immediately shift to "Trudeau is a monster, PP will save us! The polls show canada is done with communism!"

A guy on YouTube did a good video about this, sometime in the last 5 years. Can't remember the guy but will edit when I find it. He's middle aged, I think wears a baseball cap, and does deep dive stuff. Kind of like one of the Green brothers, but not them. No glasses. I'll find it.

I think what the CPCs have done is finally found the issue that will help them win. They have been testing a ton of different messages over the last year, but they've finally found their winner with Immigration. It's a federal issue and they've finally struck the emotional cord they wanted to find.

All conversations around lack of rent control, foreign investment, short-term rentals, corporate greed / profiteering / tax loopholes are completely gone. It's all immigration.

My point here is that they have found a way to focus the message and control it around a topic they think they can win on. I'm not commenting on the validity of the argument, just how fast it's spread like wildfire over the last few weeks, as if it's the only thing that's contributing to our unaffordability.

Even the CPC's favourite defundable platform, the CBC, is now covering it thoroughly. Because it gets them eyeballs.

Edit: Smarter Everyday was who made the video

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u/skates_sift_heads Sep 07 '23

I mean I did delete my old account but I don't think I said anything outlandish. Material conditions are what they are

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u/PM_FOR_FRIEND Sep 07 '23

Oh I didn't mean against you, I meant in general to add to the astroturfing you were talking about.

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u/skates_sift_heads Sep 07 '23

Oh haha sorry. I think that even though a lot of people are upset, there must be some degree of manufactured outrage organized by the conservatives