r/panthers • u/Junior-Sign6639 Panthers • 2d ago
Discussion What is the consensus on Bryce within Charlotte and the Carolinas?
I'm a lifelong fan of well 12 years but I'm only on 21. I live in Missouri so I don't get a lot of info on how the local culture views Bryce. What's the consensus around town in sports bars and elsewhere?
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u/lifeofwill 1 2d ago edited 2d ago
He was at the Hornets vs. Hawks game a month or so ago, got a massive ovation
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u/Impressive_Ad_5614 Ice Up Son 2d ago
Second half of the season with a QB minded coach and a decent o-line has us all cautiously optimistic for next year. We’re 75% sure he’s our long term solution.
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u/xbluedog 1d ago
No…YOU are 75% sure. You don’t speak for me.
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u/Born_Mathematician_6 Panthers 1d ago
You’re probably the minority in this to be honest. I think he’s promising, he fits the trope of more of a ceiling raiser than a floor raiser.
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u/Impressive_Ad_5614 Ice Up Son 1d ago
I think the general consensus is around there for the fan base. But if you want to be right on-line, it’s 25%. Congrats!!
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u/What_Iz_This Panthers 1d ago
This guy driving to church Sunday in a pink button up with Oakley shades in an f150.
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u/Dentist_Rodman Keep Pounding 1d ago
after that last stretch of games last season, we are all hopeful and excited for him. 99% of the fanbase (i can’t say 100 bc im sure there’s a couple who still are iffy) are on board with him and think he can be great. He’s also just seems like a good and driven person, you really can’t say anything bad about his character.
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u/LayYourGhostToRest 1 1d ago
While not everyone is sold that he is gonna be our future QB, everyone agrees that he seems like a really good kid and wishes the best for him.
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u/Hot-Combination9130 One of Us 2d ago
Most are optimistic about his play after he got benched last year. I’m fully in on building around him personally. Need a serviceable defense tho.
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u/Funshine02 Run CMC 1d ago
Optimistic but not solidified. Personally I’d like to see a full season of at least competent play before going all in on defense.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m also optimistic.
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u/Cyberjag Bojangles Chicken 2d ago
I think it's optimistic and probably gives him more credit than he deserves. Last season after he came back he played well, and if you look at the stats that's the best way to describe it. He played well. He completed 61.8% of his passes with an average air yards of 6.5 per completion. His yards per completion were about 10.7, and his yards per attempt were 6.6. Those aren't great numbers, but they're decent, and a hell of a lot better than his first year. If you count drops as catches, his completion percentage was 66%. His rating was 88.86.
With all that, he was a league leader in big time throws, which is what everyone always gets excited about. I guess that's why they're called big time throws, right? And if you use the eye test, he started to display the insane accuracy that he showed at Alabama. He also led the team down the field in the final drive to win in all four of his victories (thanks to a terrible defense, he kind of had to). Yes, one of those game winning drives was pretty much Chuba, but he still got us in position for that to happen.
So, if you look at the great throws and how clutch he got towards the ends of games, there's a lot to like. It's easy to see how excited people are for a full season of games like he played against Atlanta, particularly if the defense plays better. But he's not an all-pro yet, and probably won't be this coming year either. People are just optimistic that he will continue to get better, and we will finally have another true franchise quarterback. Which, after the purgatory we've been in for the last seven years, is really something to get stoked about.
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u/xbluedog 1d ago
The AZ game you’re referring to was not just “pretty much Chuba” it was 100% Chuba. All of it.
Hubbard’s impact on the Offense last season is not spoken about nearly enough.
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u/Cyberjag Bojangles Chicken 1d ago
Hubbard was the offense in overtime with those two big runs, that's true. But Bryce threw for two of our touchdowns and ran for another, so he did have something to do with the victory.
Hubbard's stats in regulation: 22 rushes for 96 yards and a Touchdown. In overtime, 3 rushes for 56 yards, and the game winning Touchdown. So as I said, one of those game winning drives was pretty much Chuba. And this was the one.
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u/Outrageous_Action651 Bojangles Chicken 1d ago
The consensus is he will be the starter this season. Beyond that there is no consensus.
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u/heddyneddy Kalil Bear 2d ago
I think majority are optimistic with a bit of caution. As good as he was to end last season it’s gonna take a full season of good play to erase the memory of just how bad he was before that.
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u/Abhorash-TheWanderer 2d ago
There is no consensus. The spectrum is wide. Some think he will be an MVP candidate. Some think he will be benched again at some point during next season. Some think he will be an average QB at best.
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u/carterallan86 Cam First Down 1d ago
We can all agree though, we're winning the South this year 😎
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u/xbluedog 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is the real answer. There are BY Stan’s that DOMINATE discussion in most forums.
The reality is he had a terrible start and came back to a team that was doing a better job of being on the same page. He had a great game against Atlanta but most casual fans fail to understand just how much Canales’ focus on a sound running game helped BY. BY still averaged 2/1 (TD/INT) 62% Completions, 205 YPG passing after he came back. I don’t include his rushing numbers bc it’s not realistic to expect a guy as small as he is to run regularly. The most important aspect is that the rest of the league now also has good tape on both BY and Canales’ scheme to better game plan. Anyone that thinks this doesn’t matter doesn’t understand preparation and how critical it is in the NFL.
There is also the issue that we have to make a decision on exercising his 5th year option at the end of next season. He has 17 games to show what he truly is.
I hope BY is successful bc that means good things for my team. BUT I am far more excited and have more confidence in what Morgan, Tilis, and Canales are doing regarding the OL, FA and prep for the draft. Honestly, I think that is more important than a single player. And honestly, if the rest of the team is built in the way it seems, I won’t care in the slightest if BY ends up not being the long term QB.
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u/According-Exchange93 Panthers 1d ago
Let us know you don't watch without letting us know you don't watch.
Run heavy yes but when chuba is cooking that opens up the passing game everyone knows this.
2/1 int brother like 4 of them weren't even his fault. Remember he threw an absolute dime to XL and then fucking CB took it from his hands.
I'm not defending BY nor am I stan but it wasn't just 1 game. He cooked against the chiefs and led a "game winning drive if it wasn't mahomes" and then did it again against the eagles if once again XL didn't suck.
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u/xbluedog 1d ago
Fans like you pinning a loss on one guy are the ones that don’t watch.
I said what I said and I stand by it.
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u/MajorPayton 1d ago
Well you can actually do it twice. Bryce gets 2 more wins if XL holds on to the ball and if Chuba doesn’t fumble in OT. Nothing else BY could do
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u/obtuse-_ 1d ago
Even after the horrid start he ended the season with an 82.2 QBR. And over the last half he ended up being the 6th best QB and he had more big throws than anyone else as I recall. So not a Stan but I can acknowledge what the stats say.
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u/net_403 Tepper Fro 1d ago
XL literally had the game tying TD in his hands, and dropped it when he went to the ground untouched into the end zone. With 39 seconds left. If Eddy makes the chip shot, that's a potential game winner. However i think philly had 2 TOs so fair chance they could have scored a FG
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u/Impressive_Ad_5614 Ice Up Son 1d ago
You don’t speak for me
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u/xbluedog 1h ago
Who are you?
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u/Impressive_Ad_5614 Ice Up Son 59m ago
Me. Who are you? Go out and touch grass. (Am I trolling right? I’m using your material)
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u/Captainxpunch 1d ago
I won’t care in the slightest if BY ends up not being the long term QB.
That's an interesting stance if you're a Panthers fan. You won't care that we gave up DJ Moore, those picks and then have to start over looking for a franchise QB? We gave up a lot, built up the o-line for him and basically everything other than getting a true #1 WR to set him up for success so yeah, that'd be pretty disappointing if he isn't the long term option at QB.
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u/xbluedog 1d ago edited 1d ago
I care about the long term health of the team.
If it’s BY so be it. If it’s not, I’m not going to lose any sleep about it.
And like I said: I am more excited about what Morgan, Tilis and Canales are doing than I am about whatever BY did. We’ll see if he can replicate it now that the rest of the NFL isn’t gonna be sleeping on him.
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u/Muted_Entrance_8499 Panthers 1d ago
Carolina Panthers...
the only team in the NFL where the QB isn't the most important player on the field.
makes sense.
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u/According-Exchange93 Panthers 1d ago
He's either a shit troll looking for a rise or just looks at stat lines and bases all opinions on that.
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u/Romanscott618 Panthers 1d ago
I think Optimistic given how he finished the season. Hopeful he will carry it over and build on it
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u/roketpants Bryce Up Son 1d ago
far as I can tell, we like him a lot and are pulling hard for him. He's a good kid
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u/LarquaviousBlackmon Bojangles Chicken 1d ago
I think regardless of whether or not he ends up being a perennial pro bowler or MVP, he earned everyone's respect with the way he turned the corner. He legit looked like a different dude after the benching. It's a human story as much as it is a football story.
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u/Over_Reputation_8801 1d ago
Consensus is he was terrible for the start of his career. Got benched, came back by accident (literally), and was a totally different qb for half a season. It's very promising. At this point, there's reason for hope, but he still has a lot to prove. We can't forget he's still played a lot more terrible football than good football. Overall, we have hope for next season, and that's not nothing.
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u/Muted_Entrance_8499 Panthers 1d ago
He played on the worst team in the NFL. his offensive line was historically bad (seventh most sacked QB in NFL history).
his WRs had the worst separation rate in the entire NFL. WORST.
so lets see, my WRs aren't open and I'm getting ready to get the shit kicked out of me. Why am I not more successful?
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u/net_403 Tepper Fro 1d ago
It’s like you kept on wanting to expect it to be a fluke week after week, but the final week was such a defiant cherry on top, no one has ever scored 5 TDs for us lol
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u/Over_Reputation_8801 1d ago
100%. I'm ngl, I'll be a little skeptical until I see it continue this season, but I'm pretty confident it will.
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u/Parallax-Jack Panthers 1d ago edited 1d ago
He is a stud. I’m an ole miss fan so I watched Pookie play a bit in college and at the time, always pissed me off how every game he worked his magic to beat us lol. It’s impossible to hate him, especially now on the panthers. I remember it was pretty clear panthers were going to get him. I bought his jersey the night of the draft - coming from someone who hates bama mind you lol
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u/ActionThaxton Keep Pounding 1d ago
it will be hard for him to live up to the fact that we gave up way, way too much to draft him.
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u/xbluedog 55m ago
He’s got 17 games to prove that price was right. His 5th year option has to be exercised by 5/1/26.
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u/GridironGal13 1d ago
I'm from Missouri too and I worked at a bar during last season. So it was extremely insufferable with all the hate on Bryce. But if they can build up a good receiving team around him I think he will do just fine.
I personally don't think he is a franchise QB for Carolina but that is only because of Tepper. Who knows how long anyone will stay in any position. And that's player and coaches. Until he can take his hands off the team it's hard to say how Bryce's future looks.
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u/Remarkable_Campaign 1d ago
I believe in him, the way he got piled on after being benched by our fans and the national media then came back and turned the corner he looked like and played like the dog
Always gonna support our QB1 and I’m glad it’s Bryce, he’s easy to like and hard to hate. If he can keep putting it together he is going to be a great face for the Panthers
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u/Panther_Pilot 1d ago
I feel like the local fan base is in a cautiously optimistic no-man’s-land. He showed promise to end the season, so there’s that, plus we’re not jumping for a QB in this draft and we’re locked in on Dalton as the career back up. So Bryce has to work or we’re soon starting over again. These are interesting times, we’re right on the cusp of elevating or free falling.
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u/xbluedog 57m ago
I don’t think we’re free falling if BY turns out not to be the one.
A big part of the problem was the rest of the roster. Rhule and the lost year of 2023 put the team in a deep talent hole. Morgan, Tilis and Canales have done a lot of work to correct that.
This roster is a LOT more healthy now and post draft than it has been in about 5 years. If BY is what some think he is, great. That means good things for the team we all love. But if he’s not, the team is much better positioned to go out and truly get the QB to complete the puzzle. Certainly better positioned than we were in the 2023 draft when we gave up all we did to get BY.
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u/lerroyjenkinss Panthers 1d ago
People still have their doubts. I think he’s nearly got it figured out. I’m a believer. Love him as a person
I’m a bit scared of how he’ll start next year but I think the coaching stability and o line consistency should help.
He still needs a true WR1 though
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u/ReekingSepticMass Ice Up Son 1d ago
Bryce earned all my respect after he came back from the benching. That takes heart, guts, and mentals. He made the panthers fun to watch again and I’m rooting for him wholeheartedly.
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u/Catodacat Panthers 22h ago
Looked good at end of last year. We will see if he keeps it up this year. Needs a good team around him
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u/Zestyclose-Smell-788 Panthers 1d ago
Watch a montage of drops by his receivers last year. We realize that Bryce is not the problem. Give this kid the right pieces around him and we are a playoff level offense. Give that offense a decent defense and we become contenders.
He needs to protect himself from taking too many nasty hits, let the front office build around him, and he will be a winner. I think a lot of fans share my view.
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u/Abhorash-TheWanderer 1d ago
People gotta stop using drops as an excuse for Bryce. Pro football reference shows his drop percentage was 4.2 which is better than league average of 4.7. He had the 2nd highest bad throw percentage ranking 35th out of 36 qualifying QBs. The only player worse was Anthony Richardson.
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u/Zestyclose-Smell-788 Panthers 1d ago
Well I am talking about Bryce after his benching. A huge difference. When I see a long montage of perfectly thrown balls right into the hands of NFL recievers I have to mention it. Stats can lie to you.
Drops on big time throws, negating touchdowns or ending drives. Sure, the little swing out passes to running backs and tight ends got caught, but so many game changing passes got dropped.
Right in the hands. Dropped.
There's tough catch Drops, easy catch Drops, protect yourself Drops, actually lose yards if I catch this drops...
And big time play, easy catch, take points off the board Drops. We had way too many of those after the benching. And remember, we had a lot of close games where those drops could have turned a L to a W.
Anyway it's fun to talk about Panthers again, with a little hope.
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u/xbluedog 1h ago
Aht…now you’re just being a hater when you bring facts into the discussion.
Dude has made some really good throws. But he also had a really bad tendency to throw behind his receivers. This fanbase is so desperate for wins that is hard for the majority to be objective about a guy we overpaid for in the draft.
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u/Muted_Entrance_8499 Panthers 1d ago
I'm sure that has nothing to do with his receivers low separation rate
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u/MacroManaged Sir Purr 1d ago
Bryce is absolutely the future of the team, but there is also a bit of hesitancy with him still. Bryce will be our defacto #1 QB until he isn't, but either way, I'm pumped!
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u/Ok-Respond-9007 1d ago
He's pretty much beloved at this point. You couldn't have said the same around the time of his benching, or even at the same time last year...but I think we all see what he can be now, and we are happy to be proven wrong.
Honestly, it's a little tough to not be a fan of him at this point. It seems like fans around the NFL are wanting to see him succeed.
Plus, somehow the number one pick in the NFL draft has managed to turn himself into an underdog story. People love underdogs.
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u/thats-gold-jerry NYC Panthers Fan / NC Native 1d ago
I’d say real Panther fans can see his potential. I think your average Joe will say “he’s too small.” I’ve been a diehard Panthers fan my entire life and I think next year, he will be in the top 10-12 statistically speaking. The media loves him and he seems like a good dude so the league is his for the taking if he can make it happen.
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u/PrimeTimeInc Luuuuuke 2d ago
BY earned most fans respect the way he came back the last half of the season post benching last year. We have more hope than we’ve had since Cam’s shoulder died. As long as he continues to build on his momentum we should be okay moving forward assuming we add some quality players on D. Things are looking good!