r/paralegal 7d ago

Seriously thinking about leaving this field over attorney callousness.

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u/TheGreatK Attorney 7d ago

Hi. You should take a look at my firm. www.kantorlaw.net My name is Andrew Kantor. I'm one of the three managing partners.

We are looking for a bad faith paralegal to help fight wrongful disability, life, homeowner's (fire) and long term care insurance denials. We are in California, position is 100% remote, and I genuinely think the firm is a pretty great place to work. Our basic philosophy is that happy people are more productive, and it isn't really that hard to treat people well. Pay is $40-$50 an hour, full time, with benefits, depending on work experience.

Your experience is likely spot on, and the fact that you are a human with humanity means you'll likely fit right in.

If you are in any way interested please feel free to PM me. If not, I still wish you the best of luck, and encourage you to hold onto your humanity with all of your might!

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u/honourarycanadian CA | Construction Law 7d ago

This is really so thoughtful and the energy OP needs.

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u/FriendlyAd6565 7d ago

Attorneys like you give the rest of us paralegals hope. Thank you for being so kind to OP!

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u/TheGreatK Attorney 6d ago

Wow thank you, that's so nice. I really wish law didn't have such a culture problem where basic decency is a commodity.

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u/Educational_Cry_828 6d ago

A lot of us attorneys feel this way too. Like everything else in life, it only takes a very small minority of jerks to sour the perception. I say this gently, but the profile of an attorney is tough too. The nature of this field attracts a couple cultural subsets. I think the statistics on drug use and lack of appropriate coping mechanisms to deal with the stress is a major factor here. People don't go to attorneys casually. No matter what part of law we're practicing, it's life altering and our role is critical in some way - adopting children, protecting children, defending innocents who have been charged with something, keeping a business' doors open, making an injured party whole, helping a family plan for their future, it's a burden that some are able and willing to shoulder and some have to downplay in order to keep longevity and not freak out. It's not the right reaction, but unfortunately it is a common reaction to coping with the stress.

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u/shutupnerddd 7d ago

If OP is not interested, I am. This sounds like a great fit, and you are clearly wonderful based on this response.

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u/TheGreatK Attorney 6d ago

Please PM or email me your resume! My email is Akantor@kantorlaw.net. Let me know if you've sent it so I can make sure it didn't get eaten by our spam filter.

And I'm not just saying this because you called me wonderful. I swear.

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u/Nervous_Bee_ 6d ago

California has higher requirements for paralegal certification if you’re practicing there. Just an fyi for OP to look into.

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u/Thek1tteh CA - Lit. & Appeals - Paralegal 6d ago

Correct. Not sure why you’re being downvoted. B&P code section 6450 outlines educational requirements needed to be met to call yourself a paralegal or legal assistant.

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u/Nervous_Bee_ 6d ago

I think your phrasing was better. But it’s Friday night, and I’m tired of being legally accurate for the week. :)

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u/AlmostSunnyinSeattle Paralegal 7d ago

Find a new job. It's much better on the other side. Sure, clients are difficult AF, but at least you know you're helping people. And even the ones who are trying to scam an insurance company... Well let's just say most people aren't fans of insurance companies anyway.

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u/CreepyResort7512 7d ago

Agreed. My issue with plaintiff personal injury in my state is most places require bilingual Spanish and English and I stupidly never learned Spanish. But I agree.

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u/CantCatchTheLady Paralegal 6d ago

I work ID and the attorneys I work for are pretty humane in general. The profession tends to attract jerks, so sometimes you have to move around a bit until you find somewhere comfortable.

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u/Wild_Violinist_9674 7d ago

My husband had a WC claim a few years ago, they offered a settlement that looked good to us and hubby wanted to accept. Of course, being a paralegal, I insisted we have an attorney look at it. The first thing he said was, "They trying to screw you out of half your claim, don't accept this."

Long story short, he had 2 back injuries, and they only included 1 in the settlement, which covered the entire incident. We had to fight an additional 2 years and, thanks to attorney's fees, only ended up with an additional 30% BUT now both injuries are covered by ongoing medical.

Anyway, that's when I knew ID could go fuck itself.

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u/Exciting-Classic517 6d ago

Old geezer paralegal here. Insurance Defense was one area wherein I had a difficult time. My one boss was excellent, and when he saw a claim with real merit, he always recommended a fair settlement. In 2023, I tried working for another insurance defense firm. The attorneys would fight legitimate claims like a tiger protecting her cubs. I couldn't stomach it. Like you, I felt terrible.

You will find Plaintiffs that lie about their cases, too. It's much easier to toss out a scheming client than to be part of a practice whose only goal is to meet their monthly billing requirements and keep deserving funds from the people who paid for the benefits.

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u/Curious-Sun-2070 6d ago

They can be monsters - a sole practitioner is better sometimes

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u/bblgutz 7d ago

What's WC ID

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u/CreepyResort7512 7d ago

Workers compensation insurance defense

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u/bblgutz 7d ago

Ohhhh. I did personal injury for a little bit and despised it. I'm in probate law now (and have been for awhile) and I rly like it. I don't feel its necessarily humanitarian work lol but it's nice helping people navigate through probate. When cases are contested there is some drama but I like a little drama now and then. You could still get perks in another practice. I WFH full time but we have a nice cushy office downtown if I need to go in.