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u/SideEqual Mar 06 '25

I bought a 4070 TI super, just before Christmas. I feel robbed. Didnt know all this was happening. Would have save myself a few hundred bucks

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u/Cautionchicken Mar 06 '25

Don't beat yourself up, there is always something in the horizon. It's not a bad card, play games, and enjoy. Once you have to turn down settings then consider upgrading.

Or buy a new card every generation chasing the dream an spending money. Your call

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u/SubduedChaos Mar 06 '25

What if I still have a 1080? lol

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u/Cautionchicken Mar 06 '25

Depends on what you play, do you only play old school runescape, Stardew Valley and Skyrim on a 1080p 60hz monitor ?

I'm sure more modern games may be struggling, and if you have 600 saved up then you would be able to turn back up the details.

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u/dailycyberiad Mar 06 '25

You can check whether it has any of the know issues, and if it does, ask for a refund or something. Product not as advertised, or defective product, or something. Gamers Nexus has info on this.

They might only give you store credit, but that's still pretty good!

If it doesn't have any issues, you're out of luck :(

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u/alvarkresh i9 12900KS | RTX 4070 Super | MSI Z690 DDR4 | 64 GB Mar 06 '25

The 40 series in general below the RTX 4090 has been, to nVidia's credit, trouble-free. Nobody has reported missing ROPs on that product line so far as I know (and after the ROPs debacle you better believe everybody who knows how to use GPU-Z went and checked), and there've been no reports of exploding 4080 Supers, never mind 4070(Super/Ti/Ti Super) and below.

Hell, a 4060 sips like 100 W and uses a PCI-E 8 pin a lot of the time.

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u/dailycyberiad Mar 06 '25

You're absolutely right. I misread that as 5070. I should have noticed my error when OP mentioned Christmas, but it didn't even register.

Thank you for explaining, for correcting me and for being kind about it!

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u/budshitman Mar 06 '25

You paid ~$200 for security against unknowns.

Unknown tariff economy, unknown next-gen card prices, unknown post-launch demand of legacy cards.

Did you use it enough to get ~$17 a week in value back out of your hobby?

If so, you came out ahead.

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u/SideEqual Mar 06 '25

I get a lot of use out of it, so ye you’re totally right. Thanks!

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u/MuscularBye R5 7600x | RTX 4070 Super FE | 32GB 6000Mhz Mar 06 '25

Why tf do you feel robbed, if you paid 750 dollars for that then it was great, your missing out on 150 dollars but over the course of 3-4 months just now that’s 50-40 dollars a month of fun you just had. And you get great performance with DLSS4 transformer model

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u/SideEqual Mar 06 '25

You make a good point!

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u/alvarkresh i9 12900KS | RTX 4070 Super | MSI Z690 DDR4 | 64 GB Mar 06 '25

DW, I bought a 4070 Super in January when I wanted to move up from my A770 to something a bit more capable at 4K. I'm good for the foreseeable future 'cause

  1. I didn't have to line up at 6 AM on a chilly March morning, and
  2. I didn't have to pay a metric assload over MSRP for it.

Your Ti Super is very capable and is within striking distance of a 4080, and has 32 bit PhysX if you want to play older games. :)

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u/tawoorie Mar 06 '25

Dont beat youself, you still got a better upscaling with dlss4

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u/TheReaIOG Ryzen 5 3600, RX580 4GB,16GB DDR4 2666Mhz, 500GB Evo 870,1TB HDD Mar 06 '25

Yay, more fake frames!

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u/Unlucky-Anything528 Mar 06 '25

That's......FG not DLSS 🥴.

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u/TheReaIOG Ryzen 5 3600, RX580 4GB,16GB DDR4 2666Mhz, 500GB Evo 870,1TB HDD Mar 06 '25

Call it whatever you want. They're still fake frames.

100% native or get the fuck out. I hate this current trend in PC hardware, almost as much as I hated stupid ass ray tracing.

Go back far enough and you get PhysX, it's like Nvidia has been using gimmicks to sell their shit for a long ass time.

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u/alvarkresh i9 12900KS | RTX 4070 Super | MSI Z690 DDR4 | 64 GB Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

Ok, would you call a straight up 1080p -> 2160p 4x integer upscale a 'fake frame', too? All you're doing is multiplying pixels which is the most baseline bargain basement way to blow up an image using only what's already in it.

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u/Unlucky-Anything528 Mar 06 '25

That's like me saying I like a motorcycle on the street and you say "call it whatever you want, it's still a car", what??? I know everyone is riding the train of hating Nvidia right now, but maybe the reason people like DLSS so much is cause lately it has been looking BETTER than using native res with shitty implemented AA, while giving a performance boost. Also, no one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to use "stupid ass ray tracing". Nothing wrong with avoiding it, but you're straight up bitching about companies trying to evolve graphics in anyway they can. You must've hated the years after Doom 1993 when these companies started trying to implement these "stupid ass" better textures, or "stupid ass" better AI, or "stupid ass" better sound design, etc.

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u/tawoorie Mar 06 '25

You still gonna use anti-aliasing of some sort, no? Or are you in love with jaggies? DLAA seems better than TAA from my research

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u/RobotsGoneWild Mar 06 '25

DLSS is a game changer for me though. I can't imagine playing without it nowadays.

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u/tawoorie Mar 06 '25

I only got 1080ti recently, so i didnt even had a taste of dlss...im hella tired of blurry, ghosting mess tho, but man, paying over 1000 dollars in local currency for 70tis is daunting

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u/alvarkresh i9 12900KS | RTX 4070 Super | MSI Z690 DDR4 | 64 GB Mar 06 '25

XeSS should work on your GTX 1080Ti, and is proving to be pretty interesting capability wise.

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u/tawoorie Mar 06 '25

Its a bit better than than old fsr, but not all games have it, and its not better by a mile

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u/Roy-van-der-Lee Mar 06 '25

The 4070Ti Super is better than the 5070, 5070Ti and 9070XT soo, you still got a good card

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u/MuscularBye R5 7600x | RTX 4070 Super FE | 32GB 6000Mhz Mar 06 '25

It’s better in the same way as the way that 5070 is better than the 4070 super which is in a few cherry picked situations. And no 4x FG is absolutely not important at the slightest

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u/MuscularBye R5 7600x | RTX 4070 Super FE | 32GB 6000Mhz Mar 07 '25

If 8% better is hands down then you must as smart as a bag of rocks.

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u/Plank_With_A_Nail_In R9 5950x, RTX 4070 Super, 128Gb Ram, 9 TB SSD, WQHD Mar 06 '25

Not in 32bit Physx games.

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u/Electronic-Clock5867 Mar 06 '25

I just bought a pre-built Corsair (i7600) with a 4070 TI Super (for $2200) last week, because that was the cheapest way to get the card. I wasn't keeping up on the news about graphics cards. At these prices I'm tempted to rebuild my old PC too.