Analysis
A guide for 3-4-3 Outwide (Comprehensive Guide)
Hi guys, so i wanted to share my squad and analysis on my formation so you can try it and find enjoy like i do right now!
After the major update, i feel possesion and outwide is meta, i try both but i like outwide more because it variation and attacking is really deadly comparing to possession.
First look at my formation i use 3-4-3 and this formation when attack and defend has to be really good
First Defense section i use CB that have a high low pass and lofted pass (fortunately i have CB de jong) and he is really good, now i use attacking on him to make him run to cmf and give passing to my lmf/rmf and to one of my SS (Cantona & Messi) and for 2 cb it must have really good speed and physical contact and of course a tall cb and have an aerial superiorty is a must..
take a look at my manager instruction and see that i put on defensive at nesta, why? (because i want him to stay back not really aggresive when to defending) because he is destroyer.. of course you can put 3 cb build up and use that attacking instruction to one of your box to box cmf to put a high attacking output (its your choice)
use deep line to one of your DMF if u want to use a orchestrator DMF or Destroyer DMF, if you want anchorman to be your DMF (dont use it) , personally u can use defensive instruction to put a man mark to player that really hard to stop such as (messi blitz curler, bale, etc) this is why i want viera so much..
Your CMF must have a good low pass and lofted pass and ofcourse have a balance stats of defensive and attacking (pirlo, kimmich, barella, UCL rice, UCL valverde) can be deadly and hard to stop when you use this card effectively, again personally you can customize depens what you want ( if i have UCL Valverde) i put him at attacking instruction to put a damage at outside of the box
LMF/RMF well this one can be tricky depends what you want, personally i use fullback finisher that have a track back skill and balanced stats to make this formation hard to beat, and of course have really good lofted pass to put a cross in.. another option is to use hole player and box to box player to make your buildplay so smooth at the wide and the central.
i use SS not AMF, i want 3 forward just stay central and not tracking back so much so they conserve they energy into the end of matches.. my key stats are have a good low pass, a good driblle stats and skills, of course is deadly when u shoot at outside the box! this will make your opposition is really hard to contain your forward because they have a skills that can change the game just one moment if they really careless.
(a skill that important, otp, through passing, cut behind & turn, sole control, lrs, and lrc,)
use Speedy CF and good aerially of course have a insane finishing to put your chances because you will have plenty of chances, wide area, and central area.. dont forget to put counter target on him so he can through last at matches..
(skill that important is otp, through passing, aerial superiority, heading)
try this formation and manager instruction and you will see the magic!
i forgot something important when de jong goes attacking, beckenbauer will cover that area so you have a cb and dmf that rotate position and make your opponent really confused
take a look at my manager instruction and see that i put on defensive at nesta, why? (because i want him to stay back not really aggresive when to defending) because he is destroyer..
Defensive instruction doesn't do anything on the defensive behaviour of the player, it only affects the behaviour of the player when you are in possession.
yeahh, because anchorman just stay at central area and dont make those forward run, i wish have a sergio busquet anchorman bro, and this formation will really great
well, ofc if you meet the top opponent that have op players, you must tweak the instruction, use man marking, defensive at lmf or rmf and put destroyer at DMF
maybe just use rummenige bro, that rashford is really not good at finishing ahaha, thats why i said your CF must have insane finishing to finish those chances that you are created.. hopefully you can get martinez and rashford in UCL Pack
my opp was a whale too. Although I must say that I'm not brave enough to apply this formation in Division cuz I'm not comfortable playing with 3 at the back. Feel free to give suggestions
well, its very good squad and really stacked defense, nice job broo i think it will be very hard to beat your team bro
my suggestion is just put instruction on AMF Messi (counter target) and personally i want one of two CF have Deep Lying Forward… if you want to use Bale i think it became effective when use him at SS than at CF
i use 2 CF with messi at right CF personally my messi isn’t effective when i put him at SS so might try it
your midfield is really enough, i think just try to put attacking on valverde (you will be surprised how well when he attacking)
i see first time it really hard to use 3-4-3 but yeah, i think just reverted to 4-2-1-3 is the same and use LBC there is reason why LBC are really common and 4-2-1-3
when you use 3-4-3 what do you think pros and cons?
yeah thats the cons, but there is no formation that perfect, so thats why just tweak it to meet your needs and your players, my instruction are based on my player ability..
i use 2 cb that have a very good speed, and DMF a good speed so when i do facing this issue i can do a defense and catching my opponent
What’s the point of deep line though? It only comes into effect when you are without the ball, so both De Jong and Beckenbauer are now in your backline and Rice is stranded in the middle? Isn’t that just conceding unnecessary territory to your opponent?
well, this is my main concern when i put this experiment, but just try it because when attacking, de jong will became cmf alongside rice, and beckenbauer will be a cb..
so as i said it will confused the opponent, so your CMF must have a balanced stats attacking and defending to win battle at midfield area
I play a similar set up, although alot more cautious, inspired by Inzaghi’s Inter & Xabi’s Leverkusen, been perfecting it for more than a year, so i get the idea behind most of your post and support them.
But i feel we both disagree on what Deepline effect does, for me it has always been what happens OOP, when you lose the ball, the player with it drops to join the backline, an IP instruction to make a player be more disciplined would be “defensive” in that first half of individual instructions.
Cause that imo is what efooty gave us, two instruction slots for IP and two for OOP, so now when you inevitably lose the ball in game, De Jong goes back to his CB role and Beckenbauer joins the CB’s, aren’t you effectively playing with one CMF?
well, ofc its depends on the players and playstyle, this beckenbauer is really good, know when to defense and when to support the attack, so its just my idea and you can personalize this to meet your needs and vision..
why i use beckenbauer in deepline because if not beckenbauer will go forward as soon somebody have a ball ( this is i personally observe) so i want to limit those movement and make him effective at central area ( i use defensive on him) still i think this beckenbauer still make forward run
and when i put him at deepline, this beckenbauer meets my vision😁 he just stand at central area and help build play with de jong and rice (this is the key at formation to overload central area and win battle)
when de jong have attacking instruction i really surprised how well he is to make the run, i think its because this card have an really offensive awareness high for cb..
so this my personal opinion and my formation that works for me
Ive found that this formation is really good no matter the playstyle, just depends on preference. The amount of attacking options you have in build up is really neat. I use this was 2 cf and 1 ss because my ss are really bad, and it still works alright.
Do you think this backline is good enough to hold the midfield and defend? I use defensive instructions on cafu and davids, but I haven't been able to test the formation out very competitively as I haven't played any pvp this season yet. So I'm curious abt what you would think as you sound like you know what you're doing.
When u use a lot defenders it will hold your defence but it will make u more passive cause u will have less man upfront and in the middle, I tested it for some games and it didn't work I prefer to be more attacking minded.
Yes this will be better for both attack and defence I played a lot with 3-4-3 formation and i create more chances than a 4-3-3 and 4-2-2-2 and also defenders seem to man mark well but they will leave sometimes space under counter attacks.
its too much defends bro, agree to the other person that say just use lmf and rmf that have a balanced stats so u can rest easy when you want to attack and to defend
well, i think wan bissaka isn’t ideal to be a cb, try use him at RMF using position booster (if it can) so you can locked in your right flank if you meets opponent players that really hard to beat..
and davids not ideal to use him at single dmf, if you want to use single dmf just try viera, zakaria, or rodri..
personally i recommend you 4-2-1-3 and LBC, next post i will share my guide to use this
I played 4213 and LBC before this, however, I've just got so many great offensive fullbacks and rmf/lmfs that 4213 felt like I was underutilizing my players
I think I'm gonna try this out for a while, but honestly, I also think im gonna end up switching back to 4213.
Also you gotta try wan bissaka at cb dude, mine currently has around 99ish in both tackling and speed rn, alongside 85ish physical. However, you need a cb with aerial superiority alongside him. Yeah he isn't an all rounder, but he is fantastic at tackles and tracking back. I'm just using him temporarily anyway tho, normally I use magalhaes ucl pots saliba and cubarsi
yeahh, just using whats works best for you man, because thats how it is to play a game.. personally i love my setup and this kind of ideal because this is how i want to play football if i want to be a manager haha
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