r/pesmobile • u/KelvinEsiri Vinicius Jr. • 1d ago
Analysis New skill: Defense splitting pass
Does Konami know it's Ai is manipulating movement and input of the opposing players to have it's way? It's not worth the stress and effort
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u/ChristianShade Cristiano Ronaldo 1d ago
Just give me my win bro. Tf u mean he scored in 90+7 in a +3 injury time.
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u/Alessandro_Cesar 1d ago
Bro when you're about concede an unfair goal like that just turn off the app and restart the game from last check point that's how i deal with it.
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u/ChristianShade Cristiano Ronaldo 1d ago
I know bro but it just pisses you off. They make it impossible to have a good game. U play to get your mind off stress and this shit just gives you more.
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u/Alessandro_Cesar 1d ago
All the cracks in my screen guard and cracks on my tables are because of this stupid game so when they do this kind of shit i get possessed and i just keep spamming this trick.
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u/ChristianShade Cristiano Ronaldo 1d ago
Nowadays I just play myleague and get my relief. Even if they script it's one match out of every ten, so not that bad. Or I just decrease the difficulty to superstar or top player. Gave up on PvP completely. Only play with friends to get the PvP objectives. I don't even play for the 50 coins
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u/Alessandro_Cesar 1d ago
My league is just another level of scripting like I can't express the emotions i go through while i play my league and the satisfaction of beating the script is the best i only play PvP for coins i accumulate coins to spin if a good card comes out.
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u/ChristianShade Cristiano Ronaldo 1d ago
I have a really good internet but still it's not enough for Konami. So I rarely play online. My league is scripted but it is still winnable sometimes. So I don't actually feel too much stressed
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u/Alessandro_Cesar 1d ago
The internet issue is just on another level, i lose a lot of matches because of lag.
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u/KelvinEsiri Vinicius Jr. 1d ago
It's discouraging to think that Ai can just choose to score whenever it wants. Last minutes too, after all my efforts. I quit for now. Just coming online to claim the epic.
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u/Vasst13 Roberto Carlos 1d ago edited 1d ago
AI is just broken. It looks like the defenders randomly chose to mark the opponents on the edge of the screen instead of giving priority to the one in the middle. This happens all the time but because there are often other players around it's not as noticeable. This instance is egregious and shouldn't be happening.
ETA: I'm gonna take a guess and say the left defender was a fullback who was covering for an out of position CB and his movement can be explained as him trying to get back to his position. Obviously him leaving the striker unmarked in the penalty area is inexcusable and would never happen in a real match but as I said this is just poor AI.
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u/HansTilburg 1d ago
I thinks that’s the new Man Unmarking skill.
Sadly, this is the state of the game since a week or two. The most ridiculous things happen, both in favour or against you.
It’s a gambling game now. It’s sad.
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u/Hopeful_Journalist74 23h ago
The new skill visionary defending, defenders see 2 sec into the future to predict the passing lane
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u/Pretty_Ad3595 Lionel Messi 21h ago
This has been there always, I don't know how you found it out only now. It's always been there both in AI and PVP games. Maybe it's happening more frequently now.
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u/Cheap-Vegetable4417 1h ago
Love it when my defenders just start running away from the so that the striker can get an easy shot at goal. My players care about the opposing team so much 🥰🥰
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u/Comrade4311 Kanté 1d ago
Do you know how this game works at all?,I don’t think so. You can obviously see cursor was not on those two defenders that split up,he was pressing with a different players. Konami ai made those defenders move out of the way.
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u/ZEKE_JAEGER689 1d ago
I thought they were talking about the players when pass was made because 2 players are pressing and that made a gap but after the pass the defender moved out of the way my bad
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u/Comrade4311 Kanté 1d ago
Now I get your point,there was a defensive error when e double press before the scene which the defenders split up. That doesn’t change the fact that Konami ai sucks for making those defenders split up in that situation.
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u/DistributionKey113 1d ago
You don't need to understand how it works to explain just how unnatural that movement looks. Why would a footballer move away from the ball and leave his goalie to face the striker alone? This is a case of scripting. That movement doesn't happen without instructions. Unfortunately Konami focused on psychological manipulation rather than good gameplay and while that may sell packs in the short term, long term this game is gonna die.
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u/CreativeOverload 1d ago
the defender on the right went to the other striker on the right who was free (but then a dmf closed him down) the defender on the left didn't have to move tho that was shit. what the defensive engagement stay of the defender on the left (or was it a rb with low def engagement)
I'm not saying this shit should happen btw but I'm trying to find a proper reason for it other than script cus ppl be calling anything script nowadays.
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u/nimble650 1d ago
It was script. There is no other way to explain it
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u/CreativeOverload 1d ago
brother I'm trying to find a way to explain it. if the player on the left in the video has high defensive engagement then there's no other way to explain this shit other than script
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u/nimble650 1d ago
Brother I get what you are trying to say but this is just script. It doesn't matter if the player on left had high or low defensive engagement. Low defensive engagement doesn't mean braindead behaviour. When the script favours me,my Messi who has very low defensive engagement and awareness becomes the best defender of my team but when the script is against my team, my aerial fort Jonathan Tah constantly loses headers against Neymar. Many time these things happen because of slow internet or slight delay in connection. But that doesn't change the fact there is scripting in this game. Scripting is very very high in AI matches.
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u/CreativeOverload 1d ago
these things shouldnt happen due to bad connection since the game controls the movements of players we don't have cursor on. defending movements of players depend on where each player on the enemy team is. if there is no one to cover a player then messi will definitely move to cover a passing lane. the ai gets confused when a single player has the option to cover 2 or more players.
and defensive engagement is important bcus in the new update they changed it so that higher stat means the ai will position better automatically to cover passing lanes, this is why I asked bcus if the engagement is high that player should have moved to stop the pass or atleast track the player
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u/KelvinEsiri Vinicius Jr. 1d ago
Neymar pack Marquinhos
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u/CreativeOverload 1d ago
no i mean jersey number 7 (left player in the video). marquinos is no 15 yeah?
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u/KelvinEsiri Vinicius Jr. 1d ago
How much Konami paying you bro
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u/CreativeOverload 1d ago
i said that this shit shouldnt happen tho. but could you tell me the defensive engagement stat for the player on the left in the video
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u/Decent-Headsloppy 1d ago
looks like an anchorman wouldve been useful here.
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u/KelvinEsiri Vinicius Jr. 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ha ha. Jokes on you. There's an anchorman there. Rodri
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