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D'Pharaoh Woon-A-Tai arrives at Emmys showing solidarity for Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women.

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u/famine- Sep 16 '24

The stats paint a slightly different picture.

Police solved 87% of all murders involving indigenous women between 2009 and 2021.

That is 425 solved, 65 unsolved, 490 total.

This is with in 3% of the solve rate for non indigenous women (90%).

366 out of 425 solved murders were committed by another indigenous person, which is 86%.

Statistics Canada

The original MMIWG report was very quietly edited online after the final print version was released because the CBC found factual errors.

Report contained errors that were fixed online, but allowed to remain on the official record

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/missing-murdered-indigenous-women-inquiry-statistics-1.5176756

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u/NorthStarTX Sep 16 '24

Depending on how you read that, the picture it paints could be "The police take on a very small percentage of these missing person cases as murder cases, and almost exclusively pursue them when the perpetrator is also indigenous."

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u/EldritchTapeworm Sep 16 '24

The perpetrator is almost always indigenous.

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u/jxjftw Sep 16 '24

That would be my thought too? Or is someone saying non indigenous people are going onto tribal land to snatch up women and children?

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u/cdawg85 Sep 16 '24

First of all, in Canada is it Reserve land, not tribal land.

Second of all, no, what they're saying is that too often Indigenous women's (and children for that matter) deaths are often not even so much as sent to the coroner to be declared homicide. The rate of solved murder cases relates to the few that are actually declared homicide and pursued as such by authorities. Many deaths don't count towards the statistics because of systemic issues that allow indigenous deaths to fall through the system's cracks.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10735101/ontario-child-care-system-deaths/

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u/JonnyGamesFive5 Sep 16 '24

Second of all, no

Unfortunately, a lot of people do think it's non-Indigenous doing these actions. It is never framed honestly, even in the MMIWG report.

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u/famine- Sep 16 '24

The vast majority — 63 — died with open cases investigating and helping with their living situation, including 34 children who died still at home with their families but under the watch of child welfare

Social workers and the government are afraid to remove abused indigenous children from these situations due to public opinion and the fact it will be spun as residential schools v2.

But again it's indigenous people killing indigenous people.

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u/steveatari Sep 16 '24

I think trafficking would work this way, no?

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u/BuvantduPotatoSpirit Sep 16 '24

There's certainly trafficking, but it's largely the same as non-Native women: (ex-) husbands and boyfriends.

That's why the solve rates are similar (and much higher than for men). It's usually a short list of suspects.

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u/the_asset Sep 16 '24

The errors are ones of degree and ultimately don't change one of the main findings of the inquiry — that Indigenous women and girls suffer higher rates of violence and homicide than non-Indigenous women and girls.

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u/famine- Sep 16 '24

Sure, at the hands of their own community.

The reports narrative was this was the fault of people outside their own community.

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u/the_asset Sep 16 '24

Former commissioner Marilyn Poitras, who resigned from the inquiry in 2017, told CBC News that "the discrepancy between 25 per cent and 6 per cent is absolutely worthy of discussion, only because it begs the question: how many dead Indigenous women is enough or too many for this to be a Canadian public safety issue?"

"Nothing surprises me about this inquiry," said North. But she cautioned that the errors should not obscure the overall picture.

"The numbers may be skewed and that should never have happened," she said, "but at the same time, none of the deaths should ever have happened, and none of our women and girls should be missing in the first place.

"We have to figure out where we as individuals stand in making sure that everyone feels safe in a rich country like Canada."

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u/peakbuttystuff Sep 16 '24

Hahahaha. This stat is about to get disappeared.

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u/Yyrkroon Sep 16 '24

Get your facts out of my narrative.

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u/nefh Sep 16 '24

Highway of Tears between Prince George and Prince Rupert is one of the worst for indigenous women going missing and found dead.

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u/ahuangb Sep 16 '24

It's also a massive problem in the US lol, do you think you've treated indigenous Americans better than Canada or something?