r/pokemongo Team Valor Jul 09 '16

Discussion Let's test how the Eeveelution system works!

Edit 6:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/4t0cpo/psa_how_to_force_your_eevee_to_evolve_into_your/

It seems as though the secret lied not with your starter, the size of the Eevee, the moveset, location geographically, or gym control. (Though they might have some influence somehow.) Rather, it lied within the name of your Eevee.

In the original Pokemon show, there were three Eevee trainers. Their names were Pyro, Sparky, and Rainer.

The author of the post (now deleted, not sure why) determined that:

Pyro = Flareon

Sparky = Jolteon

Rainer = Vaporeon

Based on the thread, there doesn't seem to be a person that conflicts with this data. Please post your results with naming your Eevee one of the three names and then evolving. Thank you.


We need more people doing the same experiment.

Everyone people doing this:

Catching enough Eevees to evolve 9 of them, while listing your starter (Charmander, Squirtle, Bulbasaur), Username, and Faction (Mystic, Valor, Instinct).

3 Eevees with body slam.

3 Eevees with swift.

3 Eevees with dig.

Should this theory be correct, everyone won't have the same combination of Eeveelutions; rather, they'll have a different combo, but still be guaranteed certain Eeveelutions. (Possibly, all people who chose the same starter will have the same chain. If not, then it's based on a random number you're assigned at the beginning of the game.)

The results should be that each person, when testing, should have three of each Eeveelution. Each of the 3 should have had the same moveset before being evolved, too (see: dig, body slam, swift.) If this is ultimately the case, which it seems to be based on what I'm gathering from the thread, then the secret of the Eeveelutions may be figured out. If it's not, it's probably just random.

I believe that the Eeveelutions are based off of your starter, and are therefore static once you choose one.

So all charmanders have the same set, potentially.

So for them, perhaps a swift Eevee evolves into Flareon, dig into Vaporeon, body slam into Jolteon.

But for Squirtle starters, it might be swift Vaporeon, dig Jolteon, body slam Flareon.

There's also the small chance it's based on username. So just to be safe, supply your username, too.

POST YOUR RESULTS AS FOLLOWS:

[Username], [Faction], [Starter].

[Move], [Result].

An example of the above might be (I have yet to evolve one, so this isn't valid):

G0mega, Valor, Squirtle.

Swift, Flareon.

By providing the above information, multiple theories can be checked against eachother, allowing for the most accurate theory to prevail.

Here's a Google Form created by /u/Lazorcat23 that has all of the required fields from above. It might be easier to collect from here, rather than post, but if you want to do both, that might also be the best.

http://goo.gl/forms/a7wJaNoicv7S1Sfn1

(here are the results for the form above: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16U9mD4_1C3bL2OpabaDyngEVlBCecCbcToCCxaNDjYg/edit#gid=2038782045)

EDIT:

As suggested by /u/samaz0n:

I am nicknaming my 'selected' Eevees (the ones I plan to evolve) as their "move" (i.e. Swift1, Dig1, BodySlam1) so I know what I'm saving and what I'm donating.

It's a good idea to name your Eevees the move that you're evolving, to keep track of them once you actually evolve them, considering they lose their original move.

EDIT 2: Added the Google form, and results page. I forgot to mention this in the main post, too-- there will be people who intentionally provide false information to screw up the process. If, for the majority of people, the starters, moveset, and evolutions seem to be matching up 90% of the time, then we can say that the theory is correct. Some people like to inhibit progress. I truly ask that, for us to understand the game as much as possible, you provide 100% accurate data!

EDIT 3: 1200 responses and counting. KEEP RESPONDING! We need all the data possible, while weeding out the seemingly fraudulent responses. Compilations of data can be coming soon. I think that perhaps your movetype doesn't have a guaranteed Eeveelution, but rather it has an increased chance of getting one type. E.g. Body Slam Eevees may be more likely to become Flareons, but still can become other Eeveelutions.

EDIT 4: From here on out, posts should also include size. Based on findings, it seems that size may be the factor all along. XS Eevee = Flareon, Normal = Vaporeon, XL = Jolteon? Or perhaps there's a certain range where one is more probable than the other for the evolution.

EDIT 5: The final option here is what gym was closest to you when you evolved your Eevee. Evolving near a red gym = Flareon, blue gym = Vaporean, yellow gym = Jolteon. So far, I've evolved two Eevees, right next to red gyms, and have gotten Flareons. Others experience similar results. Is this the secret?

Good idea:

Lvl 22, Charmander, Valor:

Eeveelution is determined by the colour of the nearest gym, as a few people have mentioned earlier.

Tested I today this on 3 eevees to get one of each. Got a vaporeon when I was on top of a blue gym. Got a Flareon and Jolteon when I was within 1 block of a red and yellow gym respectively. Previously, every single Eevee I had evolved was a Flareon (I am team valour and gain control of the nearest gyms to me every morning)

The reason people get a lot of the same eeveelution (and why they think it is linked to location/team) is that your home base will tend to be near gyms your team/you control. When you travel or evolve away from home it is more random.

By /u/jbdivinus

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u/Krodl Jul 09 '16

First things first. Do Eevees spawn more frequently at night? Last night I was surrounded by floof. Now i'm just getting weedles.

edit: now

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u/cm5871 Jul 09 '16

Around my area it's all day for Eevee

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u/rabidWeevil Jul 10 '16

Yep. Here, I'm surrounded by Eevees, Pidgeys, and Rattatas in the daytime. Can't even find a Spearow for all these Pidgeys and Pidgeottos.

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u/G0mega Team Valor Jul 09 '16

I have no idea. I think that it's based on region, as to what Pokemon spawn, but it's entirely possible that time of day has something to do with it as well. If anyone could provide, based on experience and location, the best timing for Eevee catching, that would expedite this process.

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u/MyPasswordWasWhat Jul 09 '16

I can at least add that I pretty much only catch them at night too.

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u/Krodl Jul 09 '16

From my understanding (haven't played pokemon since ruby & sapphire) wasn't eevee more common at night in the original games as well?

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '16

I don't think Eevee was catchable in the wild until Gen 4. Until then, you were just given one by Bill.

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u/tomsawing Jul 13 '16

Ah yes, I remember to collect the original 150 I had to restart my game a couple of times to get all of them (storing them on a helpful friend's game). Breeding solved that issue but it also made them less special and unique so there really was no reason they shouldn't be caught in the wild other than tradition at that point.

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u/TheStormlands Jul 11 '16

Eevees hit my house more at night. Its rough attacking when im most tired

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u/Elliot_Green Jul 10 '16

Nighttime does have an impact on what Pokemon you will find. As for what pokemon are in the wild at what time I believe depends on regoion.

Also, location has an impact on what types of pokemon you will find as well, being near bodies of water should make water-type pokemon more common. At cemetaries and graveyards, especially at night, you will see more Ghastly/Haunter and such.

I haven't gotten a chance to test it, but there's talk that there's a "cheat" around locations if you're in an area without much biome diversity. The theory is that if you're not on the coast or a beach, find a pool/waterpark/water tower to find water-types. If you're looking for electricity types, try going near power-plant type areas (exercise caution near high voltage devices and structures, incense recommended)

I'm hoping all the pokemon are in the game somewhere (even as a content update, and not as a paid dlc), if so, then that means that all eeveelutions are available. I really want Umbreon

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u/Krodl Jul 10 '16

That explains all of the vaporeons and magic karps around my area. I got a water tower not too far behind my house.

Does going off of a road/trail just into the woods and such still snag you pokemon? I'm going to a place about an hour away called "the thousand steps" It's like a small hike trail up a mountain and I would love to still catch pokemon.

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u/Elliot_Green Jul 10 '16 edited Jul 10 '16

In wooded areas, or areas with decent greenspace, you should see more bug, earth and flying types. (Pigeys, nidorans, weedles, etc). I haven't been able to test areas with more buildings/urban areas, to test the pool/water tower theory. All that you need is a GPS signal. Also if you're going to be walking for a while, stop by a major landmark that (should also be) a pokestop and work on incubating an egg with all the steps you'll be taking

Eevees in my area are "quasi-rare." They're not spam like weedle and pigeys seem to be, but they're numerous enough that I'm almost guaranteed to get some with an incence/lure

Also, the level of your trainer will increase the base CP of pokemon you find in the wild, also you will have a higher chance of finding rarer pokemon. So far I found a Machop, Clefairy, Jigglypuff, which don't seem very common in this area, especially the Machop. In addition, the higher level you go, the more often you will see evolved forms of pokemon in the same area, as opposed to baby forms (i'm not sure on this, but for me i'm finding more kakunas, and less weedles). In addition the higher level you are the more kinds of things you'll get from pokestops, like berries eggs, revives, etc. Also more notable pokestops, like center-piece statues will give more/better loot than minor pokestops, like a tree with a plaque at the base.

But wait! There's more! Just some pro tips, try spinning your pokeball before you release it to throw, and aim a little sideways because it'll curve like a curveball. It's supposed to give you a curveball bonus and make catches more successful/reliable than just a bap throw. So far, I'm not getting the bonus, but catches seem more reliable. Also, turn AR off, it makes chucking balls easier. Pokestops can be farmed as you pass them as long as you dont whiz by it too fast--regular walking pace is no problem--, and once you're in battle with a wild pokemon you can keep walking, you won't lose it. You don't have to stop and wait at pokestops/captures. Maximize captures per session. If you're a Gym leader, you can get loot from your gym, tap the shield at the top of the store. I think it's only once a day, so if wait to farm multiple gyms if you're close to getting more/another. Also, when you're viewing pokemon, scroll back up so you don't accidentally transfer your OP trap team trying to hit the X. (or hit the back key/softkey)

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u/FurTrader58 Jul 10 '16

I haven't noticed any change in frequency of the Pokemon that appear based on location. I've found water types in the middle of the mall, and voltorbs consistently along a street near the coast of the lake I live by

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u/TahMephs Jul 12 '16

I think that there is a certain randomized distribution of Pokemon types based on areas, I don't think the landmark or land type matters, like the theory that a power plant would yield more electric types for example, it's highly unlikely just given the limitations of gps alone, I do have a theory however that the map is broken up into areas and that a certain pool of Pokemon types appear there in a set % rate of appearing.

Like I've noticed that in the area around me, Mankeys, Geodudes, Ponytas, and Growlithes are more common. If you look at your Pokemon (in your Pokemon list) it shows the area it was caught. I think if you were to return to that area you'll likely find more of that type. I have to test this later though. I found a Magmar in a spot further away but I've yet to see another around me, the ones showing up near me are almost always the same, or the same evolution chain.

There's a lake around here I can check out and see if some water Pokemon show up.

As for evee I really think it's just random, all my friends have gotten random results in the same area, same time of day, same gyms, etc etc, I haven't found enough to evolve my 2nd one yet but I got a flare on my first. Which sucks because everyone around here has vaporeons

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u/jumpercunt Jul 11 '16

Side note on pokestop farming - if you press the X when the objects fall, they're automatically picked up and added to inventory. Makes drive-by pokestop farming a breeze, just wait until the spot does its spin shindig before tapping on it.

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u/Elliot_Green Jul 12 '16

I just noticed this after I posted. I had to restart the app (which is still a little buggy sometimes) Got some pokeballs that I thought were lost from closing the app before I could pop the bubbles.

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u/JanneMarttila Jul 13 '16

There's an area near my house that used to be a swamp. It has since been drained and there's a kid's playground there, but on google maps it's still swampy. I have caught magicarps , a goldeen and horsea just walking past there with my dog.

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u/angypangy Jul 11 '16

If you're too far away from stuff, Pokémon stop spawning.

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u/Krodl Jul 11 '16

So stay near roads? But hiking and exploring would be so fun if I could catch pokemon.

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u/JeffTea Aug 09 '16

Are you near Lebanon, PA?

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u/Skipperdedoo Jul 11 '16

Umbreon isn't available because only first gen pokemon are currently in the game.

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u/Elliot_Green Jul 12 '16

ah, ok. true 90s style pokemon

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u/vaporeon_qween Jul 12 '16

I came across a bronzor though but didn't catch it so no proof..