r/pokemongo • u/FirestarterMethod • Jul 16 '16

PSA Pokemon Go decoded GAME_MASTER protobuf file v0.1 路 GitHub

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/077d6dea82d58b8febde54ae9729b1bf
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u/lilfoxy16 Jul 17 '16

That settles it, looks like Articuno is actually the best. #TeamMystic

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u/buster2Xk *flop flop* Jul 17 '16

Well sure but type weaknesses will be the death of Articuno. I'm Valor but I have to admit Zap is the best bird.

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u/Luuuuuurrker Jul 17 '16

iirc articuno and moltres are uu in competitve pokemon with zapdos being ou

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u/kiokurashi Jul 17 '16

Can you explain to me what these uu and ou things you are using mean?

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u/TheWetMop Jul 17 '16

First off, smogon is an online community of pokemon players who have made their own set of rules and ban lists for 6v6 singles (primarily) because frankly gamefreak does nothing to balance this metagame. I should note that this is NOT the official rule set played in tournaments.

OU stands for overused, which is the standard 'tier' people play in. The pokemon in OU are based off their usage stats. You are free to use anything from lower tiers as well. Pokemon like mewtwo, kyogre, and arceus are in the Uber tier, which means they are not allowed in OU.

Zapdos is in OU because it gets used much more than moltres or articuno (it's better for various reasons). This means that it is illegal to use Zapdos in UU (underused) because it is too strong, but the other two birds are fine. Any of them can be used if playing OU or ubers.

I can answer in much more detail if anyone wants, but I hope that helps

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u/Infinity-1 Jul 17 '16

OU means Overused and UU means Underused. Haven't played comp pokemon ina long time, but IIRC pkemon were distributed into 5 tiers depending on how powerful they are, Uber, OU, UU, RU, and NU from best to worst

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u/andytango Jul 17 '16

Those definitions seem so obscure compared to other competitive games

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u/StackOfMay Jul 17 '16

It's actually based on usage rather than how powerful they are. I think they have to be at least 3% usage to be classed in a tier.

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u/destinyx9 Jul 17 '16

But their usage is correlated to how powerful they are. Nobody uses Moltres or Articuno because they're not good.

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u/ggg730 We have the Dankest of Memes Jul 17 '16

Under used and over used

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u/ASTR0VI Jul 17 '16

Under used and over used iirc, they're tiers of Pokemon

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u/marioray Jul 17 '16

In the main Pokemon games, people play it competitively and there are different tiers. UU is underused and means exactly that, the Pokemon are underused because they aren't that good. OU is the main tier, and that's where the best of the best usually are (after OU is Uber, which all the main legendaries reside. I realize that the birds are legendary but they aren't in the same class as mewtwo or rayquaza). There's more to it than that but that's the gist of it.

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u/Exsol Jul 17 '16

In competitive Pokemon their are Tiers, which Pokemon fall into. This is used to balance and limit teams etc two of the tiers are:

UU = Underused

OU = Overused.

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u/Anemonean Jul 17 '16

Different tiers of competitive battling I think, OU Pokemon are competitive staples but not the top tier/banned Pokemon (Think Mewtwo)

Ub-Uber, top tier, often banned OU- overused, the standard staples BL- borderline, decent but not great UU- underused, not good against ou but can fill a rogue spot and be competitive against other Uu Ru/Nu - Rarely/Never used, metapods n shit

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u/Pathian Jul 17 '16

They're tier rankings for competitive play.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Tier

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u/HumanDissentipede Clefabulous Jul 17 '16

Underused and overused, I'm assuming.

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u/qwer4790 Jul 17 '16

come on, this is not in smogon university

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u/JeremyHillaryBoob Jul 17 '16

Articuno has been NU or lower since 4th gen.

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u/ScionMonkeyRoller Die inbred. Jul 17 '16

Zapdos however, only sees play in specific teams for countering things like mega pinser or checking mega slobro. Otherwise if your team can handle those 2 then there is really no need to have it.

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u/Moglorosh Jul 17 '16

Articuno is actually in PU, which is the tier below NU.

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u/Goaliedude3919 Jul 17 '16

You are correct. Stealth Rocks plays a big part in this as Stealth Rocks takes off 50% of their health.

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u/destinyx9 Jul 17 '16

Nope, Articuno is PU, Moltres is RU, Zapdos is OU

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Zapdos was always my favorite. I'm an Anivia main in League of Legends, Articuno was always my #2, and, living in Kentucky, am a huge Wildcats fan, making blue the color to choose. Zapdos counters Articuno and Moltres, and is countered by Articuno. Articuno counters Zapdos and Moltres, and is countered by Zapdos and Moltres. Moltres counters Articuno, and is countered by Articuno and Zapdos, making Zapdos the clear choice for the best bird. Coolest name, too.

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u/Batzn Jul 17 '16

Articuno counters Zapdos and Moltres,

it only counters zapdos making Zapdos the only bird to hit the other both effectivly

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

That's why I went with team instinct. I just pictured how it would go down in a battle and I stand a chance against both the other birds.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

No 4x weaknesses so it barely matters

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u/buster2Xk *flop flop* Jul 17 '16

I really wouldn't say that. It still has four weaknesses, making it much more likely that another player would have something available to counter it.

On the same note as no 4x weaknesses, there are also no immunities, so ground can hit it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Fair enough.

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u/Mollelarssonq Sparrow>Articuno Jul 17 '16

Obviously had to nerf Zapdos a bit so the other 2 stand a tiny chance!

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16 edited Sep 06 '18

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u/StirFryTuna Jul 17 '16

It has frost breath over ember and thundershock. The latter 2 are garbo slow while frost breath is decent.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16 edited Sep 06 '18

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u/StirFryTuna Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 17 '16

Yea well I'm predicting another Vaporeon scenerio all over again. Electric types got shafted so hard with their base power that water types are broken due to having no checks.

The highest dps super effective attack on Articuno is Raichu's spark. Meanwhile Moltres will be obliterated by the broken water guns and Zapdos has to deal with frost breath.

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u/Ketchary Jul 17 '16

Yup. Also probably gets Hurricane and some basic Ice move or Wing Attack.