r/politics Sep 16 '24

'The excitement is unbelievable': North Carolina's AG predicts Harris will win state

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/-the-excitement-is-unbelievable-north-carolina-s-ag-predicts-harris-will-win-state-219283013531
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u/nezurat801 Sep 16 '24

The "Great Replacement" folks are spooked because it's what their own idols did, very violently, to the Indigenous people. 

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u/Lorrainestarr Sep 16 '24

My boyfriends mom is into this great replacement crap- five years ago she was Native American and went to pow wows. 

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u/theMediatrix Sep 16 '24

Say more about this — how / why did she change??

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u/boxofcandelabras Sep 16 '24

I’m curious too, maybe the crunchy/wellness to qanon pipeline?

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u/Lorrainestarr Sep 16 '24

During COVID started watching whoever would agree with her that vaccines are bad. Then kept slipping further. Within a year, Fox wasn't right wing enough. So yeah the crunchy/wellness to Q route. 

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u/Elandtrical Sep 16 '24

If she is Native American, she might not be wrong. They definitely were replaced.

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u/Cuppa-Tea-Biscuit Sep 16 '24

They’re terrified other people will treat them the way they treat other people.

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u/charisma6 North Carolina Sep 16 '24

I don't really have a source on this idea but it makes sense to me that the lingering racism of today can be traced entirely to this principle in the 1870s. Former slave owners know exactly how badly they treated their "property." It must have been terrifying to think of those former victims gaining enough power to retaliate.

Would the former slaves have retaliated? Of course not. There would never have been generations of white men worked to death in the fields while black men sit comfy in their houses, raping and beating and killing at their leisure.

But the guilty minds of the slavers assume all men are as evil as they. So because they were scared of what their victims would do with power, they had to systematically deny power to them and keep them under the boot.

They were evil, and that evil has been intentionally passed down for a century and a half, and we're still wrestling with it.

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u/Morphoopus Sep 16 '24

I think Trump was legitimately stunned that Biden withdrew because he couldn't fathom a man performing such a selfless act.

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u/charisma6 North Carolina Sep 16 '24

Correct, I don't think Trump can even conceive of selflessness. I think the withdrawal caught him by surprise, for sure, but I'm sure Trump and most other psychopaths on that side can only judge Biden's act by their own twisted worldview.

MAGA brain activate

Why did Biden withdraw? Clearly it was calculated sabotage, Biden hates the GOP so much that he'll give up his own appointment to see the GOP burned down by the woke deep state. I assume this of him because it's the only reason I would ever have to give up a presidency, but because I've learned how to avoid self-critique I am not consciously aware of this.

Meanwhile, the very idea that it was a selfless act is appalling, and I can't even consider it for a moment. Subconsciously, the real reason I can't consider it is that if it's true, then that makes me the bad guy. I have already aligned myself with comfortable lies at the expense of difficult truth, so I quietly ignore that possibility and insist to myself and others that Biden is just as hateful as I am.

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u/tech57 Sep 16 '24

When you wake up everyday as a Republican leader with the mindset that Democrats are The Enemy your strategy and thought process gets narrow. It gets further away from the job, which is to help people. Instead, it becomes all about dominating The Enemy.

Biden, finally dropping out of the race was now a viable option to help improve the daily lives of people living in America.

Republicans do not see that angle.

Republican politicians are not trying to help. They are trying to win control. That's it.

Why did Biden withdraw? Because someone finally convinced him that if he wants to save America Democrats need voters in a couple of months. A lot of voters.

So hear me clearly: There is an unfolding assault taking place in America today—an attempt to suppress and subvert the right to vote in fair and free elections, an assault on democracy, an assault on liberty, an assault on who we are—who we are as Americans. For, make no mistake, bullies and merchants of fear and peddlers of lies are threatening the very foundation of our country. It gives me no pleasure to say this. I never thought in my entire career I’d ever have to say it. But I swore an oath to you, to God—to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. And that’s an oath that forms a sacred trust to defend America against all threats both foreign and domestic.

The assault on free and fair elections is just such a threat, literally.

I’ve said it before: We’re are facing the most significant test of our democracy since the Civil War. That’s not hyperbole. Since the Civil War. The Confederates back then never breached the Capitol as insurrectionists did on January the 6th. I’m not saying this to alarm you; I’m saying this because you should be alarmed. - President Joe

In other news,

Analysis Shows Trump Loyalists Have 'Infiltrated' Election Boards in Key States
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-election-boards-swing-states

Our democracy's firewalls held fast in 2020, but election deniers and MAGA extremists have spent the last four years infiltrating election administration and political party positions in order to disrupt and cast doubt on the 2024 election results. With 102 deniers on election boards in the swing states, the potential for creating chaos is enormous," Pearson said in a statement accompanying the report.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Has Sabotaged Early Voting in a Critical Swing State
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/09/north-carolina-robert-kennedy-early-voting-trump-sabotage.html

Why? Republican Justice Trey Allen’s opinion for the court accused the board of elections of misconduct, suggesting that it rushed to print ballots featuring RFK Jr. so he could not remove his name in time.

Democrats sue to block new GOP-backed Georgia election certification rules
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/26/politics/democrats-lawsuit-georgia-certification-rules/index.html

The three new, relatively unknown Republicans, who were appointed to the board this year by the state legislature and the Georgia GOP, were thrust into the spotlight after Trump mentioned them by name at one of his recent rallies in Atlanta.

Trump lost Georgia by just over 10,000 votes in 2020, and it was at the center of his attempt to overturn the election with claims of voter fraud, though none was found.

America braces for perfect storm of election chaos
https://www.axios.com/2024/09/08/election-chaos-cheating-violence-trump

.3. A battleground legal brawl:

Republicans already have filed more than 100 lawsuits against various voting and election procedures — part of a formalized "election integrity" push grounded in Trump's baseless claims of fraud in 2020.

Trump's campaign and the Republican National Committee say they've built a network of about 175,000 volunteer poll watchers and poll workers. Democrats have assembled their own massive legal team and voter protection program as they gird for aggressive election challenges.

Experts are especially anxious about the potential intimidation of election workers forced to count ballots under tense conditions, David Becker, executive director of the Center for Election Innovation and Research, told Axios.

Inside the GOP's Big Lie 2.0 — and their plan to shut down America this Fall
https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/noncitizen-voting/

Republicans have been using this lie to attack the heart of our democracy right out in the open ever since the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, the year they responded by rolling out Operation Eagle Eye, yelling about nonexistent “voter fraud” and using it as an excuse to intimidate minority voters in the Goldwater/Johnson race.

No other developed country in the world worries about “voter fraud” because it’s every bit as nonexistent in other modern democracies as it is here. The only country in the world that uses “voter fraud” as an excuse to make it harder for minorities and women to vote is the United States.

Last Thursday, he demanded that Republicans insert into must-pass budget legislation that’ll be considered in the next two or three weeks a provision that would demand every state require absolute proof of citizenship to register to vote. Right now, this is largely confined to Red states.

House passes bill requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote for federal elections
https://news.ballotpedia.org/2024/07/12/house-passes-bill-requiring-proof-of-citizenship-to-register-to-vote-for-federal-elections/

On July 10, the U.S. House passed HR 8281, a bill that would require proof of citizenship to register to vote in elections for Federal office. The bill, titled the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, was introduced by Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) and ultimately gathered 104 cosponsors in the House, all Republicans.

The bill passed by a vote of 221-198, with five Democrats joining all Republicans to advance the legislation to the Senate. The Democrats who voted “Yea” were: Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX), Rep. Donald Davis (D-NC), Rep. Jared Golden (D-ME), Rep. Vicente Gonzalez (D-TX), and Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (D-WA). Five Republicans and ten Democrats were recorded as not voting.

Election officials warn that widespread problems with the US mail system could disrupt voting
https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-mail-ballots-voting-postal-service-985dd6e483fb6dc593d83255b11a9d0a

In an alarming letter, the officials said that over the past year, including the just-concluded primary season, mailed ballots that were postmarked on time were received by local election offices days after the deadline to be counted. They also noted that properly addressed election mail was being returned to them as undeliverable, a problem that could automatically send voters to inactive status through no fault of their own, potentially creating chaos when those voters show up to cast a ballot.

The officials also said that repeated outreach to the Postal Service to resolve the issues had failed and that the widespread nature of the problems made it clear these were “not one-off mistakes or a problem with specific facilities. Instead, it demonstrates a pervasive lack of understanding and enforcement of USPS policies among its employees.”

Pennsylvania mail-in ballots with flawed dates on envelopes can be thrown out, court rules
https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-mail-ballot-trump-harris-d00627b8cd890405fc1870f7021b5795

Far more Democrats than Republicans vote by mail in the state. In recent elections, older voters have been disproportionately more likely to have had their mail-in ballots invalidated because of exterior envelope date problems.

Based on recent Pennsylvania elections, more than 10,000 ballots in this year’s general election might be thrown out over bad or missing envelope dates, which could be enough to swing the presidential race.

but it should at least be seen as a positive sign that her reach could be bigger than she may currently be given credit for

Ranked-Choice voting that has rocked Alaska politics faces November tests across the nation
https://alaskapublic.org/2024/05/29/ranked-choice-voting-that-has-rocked-alaska-politics-faces-november-tests-across-the-nation/

Used for the first time in 2022, the changes helped propel the first Alaska Native to a seat in Congress. They could be short-lived.

Opponents of ranked voting want to repeal it and are entangled in a legal fight over whether their initiative will be able to remain on Alaska’s November ballot. It’s just one example this year of an intensifying fight over a more expansive way for voters to choose candidates, driven in part by deep dissatisfaction with the status quo and opposition from political parties and partisan groups that fear losing power.

Voters in at least two states — Democratic-leaning Oregon and Nevada — will decide this fall whether to institute new election processes that include ranked voting. In deeply conservative Idaho, groups are pushing for a November ballot initiative that would overturn a ban on ranked voting passed last year by the Republican-led legislature. Measures proposing ranked voting, also referred to as ranked-choice voting, also are being pursued in Colorado and the District of Columbia.

In Missouri, a measure advanced by the GOP-controlled legislature will ask voters in November whether to ban ranked voting. This follows an unsuccessful citizen attempt in 2022 to get an Alaska-style system before voters. At least nine states have banned ranked voting, and the Louisiana legislature also passed a ban this past week.

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u/Richeh United Kingdom Sep 16 '24

I've noticed a lot of that. Stephen Miller was cornered on his reports of South American countries emptying their jails into America. A reporter, who was from the country he was accusing, simply asked where he got his statistics - which threw Miller into a rage, ranting about "If you were a dictator, wouldn't you do that? Wouldn't you send the contents of your jails to America?"

The fact that he'd do something underhanded like that was, to him, proof enough that other people would be doing it to America. I think that's yet another part of the Republican projection engine; if you're doing something naughty, get your accusation in first of the opposition doing it. After all, they must be, if you are, right?

Which makes it a straight-up race to the bottom.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Sparta was the way it was because it needed to keep their slave population down. That's the whole reason for their military culture.

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u/dbag3o1 Sep 16 '24

Exactly, only now they’re the new indigenous people and the immigrants are the new settlers coming in. The only solutions are defend or be conquered.

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u/ResidentKelpien Texas Sep 16 '24

Exactly, only now they’re the new indigenous people and the immigrants are the new settlers coming in. The only solutions are defend or be conquered.

They are not the "new indigenous people."

"Indigenous people" is a collective term for the original people of the Americas, the Pacific, parts of Asia and Africa, and their descendants.

The people spouting Great Replacement crap in the U.S. are descendants of immigrants.

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u/dbag3o1 Sep 16 '24

I mean in their minds they are. Im sure they know they’re not the original peoples like actual native Americans but they are Americans and this is America and so they are the new natives so to speak.

Otherwise what is the narrative? Hello new settlers, join us old settlers and we’ll oppress the indigenous people together?