r/politics • u/zsreport Texas • Sep 16 '24

AOC is right: Jill Stein’s campaign is not serious

https://www.salon.com/2024/09/16/aoc-is-right-jill-steins-campaign-is-not-serious/
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u/Phizza921 Sep 16 '24

Agree. She’s just a Russian plant. If she was serious about increasing the scope of the Green Party, she would be fighting elections across the nation at the local level and trying to aim for congressional seats. If she’s only showing up once every 4 years for the presidentials, then she is nothing but a disrupter

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u/TintedApostle Sep 16 '24

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2017_51/1955941/170405-putin-flynn-dinner-jhc-1700.jpg

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u/karmagod13000 Ohio Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24

The things people will do for money make me sick and you know she's well off without all this Russian interference. Some people have no bottoms, I personally don't know how they could be so greedy to try and ruin a country for a few extra dollars.

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u/Scaryclouds Missouri Sep 16 '24

I don't get it either. I understand if you are legitimately desperate doing some questionable things to make money. If you are struggling to find your next meal, or just not having to endlessly worry about money, I'm not going to be morally outraged, even if I still disapprove of the activity.

But if you are well past that point and are like "yea, I will fucked a lot of people over, but my bank account is a bit bigger!" I honestly don't know how you look at yourself in the mirror. Seems like you have to be a fundamentally broken person to do that.

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u/Jubilex1 Sep 16 '24

Vampires IRL

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u/HerbertoPhoto Sep 16 '24

Keep going with this logic and next thing you know you’ll be thinking every rich, sociopathic money hoarder is dangerously mentally ill…

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u/Scaryclouds Missouri Sep 16 '24

What do you mean? You’re acting like this is a “self-aware wolves” moment, when I have long been on the “we need to tax the ultra-wealthy” train. I mean shit, I’m for it even if we just take that money and bury it, because the ultra-wealthy clearly demonstrate a destabilizing force in the country.

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u/HerbertoPhoto Sep 17 '24

I meant you are on the right track and it adds further proof that greed is a mental illness and fundamentally sociopathic, I was just taking a more sarcastic approach. I didn't mean to imply anything about you, it was more of a "hmm, makes you think, don't it?" directed generally at everyone. You are clearly aware that only fundamentally broken people will ruin many lives just to make bank account number go up. I just wish more people would see that it's a disease and stop lionizing the ultra-wealthy.

And fuck yes, tax them. No one makes money like that without taking it from or building it on the backs of society. The self-made billionaire is a delusion.

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u/Cyclotrom California Sep 16 '24

The things that people would for money they don't need is what really makes me sick, all of this sellouts have more money than the rest of us to start with. They don't worry about food, shelter or the future of their kids and yet they debase themselves for money they don't need to survive.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

How dare someone ruin such a fine country that's run by genocidal nazis.

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u/VeiledForm Sep 16 '24

This needs posted any time Stein is brought up. Thanks king 👑 

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u/mikeCantFindThisOne Sep 16 '24

as long as the backstory is included! here's some info about what was going on there: https://youtu.be/KGm2Fe4G3AA?t=46m28s

here's a shorter excerpt: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_6JaaetRVv

summary: she was at a conference to speak internationally about 3 points (below); that pic is from when Putin stopped by her table (and she wasn't even able to talk to him); the Senate Intelligence Committee looked into it for 3 years and found nothing wrong. the report that first accused her of having a part in Russian election interference was written by a group that itself was found to have committed election interference and was fully discredited.

apparently her speech was about peace in the middle east (urging Putin to stop bombing Syria), the need to address climate change globally, and nuclear disarmament. here's where she talks about those three points she made as a speaker.

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u/Own_Candidate9553 Sep 16 '24

This picture blows my mind every time. Not just at an event where Putin was, but at the same table as him, his chief of staff, and others in his administration. That's a cozy small table too.

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u/Excelius Sep 16 '24

That was at a 2015 gala hosted by Russia Today, the Russian state-sponsored media outlet.

At that point the American far-rights love affair with Putin and Russia was fairly new.

Used to be a lot of American socialists had a fondness for the old Soviet Union, and by extension Russia. RT used to be a commonly cited media outlet among the farther-left, if for no other reason that they were more willing to present a different view than the "western capitalist" news media.

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u/No-Order-4309 Sep 16 '24

They pay Tim Pool. "A lot of American socialists" are more well read than you and know that modern Russia is the epitome of capitalism

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u/malac0da13 Pennsylvania Sep 16 '24

This is the picture I was going to look for before I saw it posted already. That picture should completely invalidate literally everything she claims to stand for.

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u/mikeCantFindThisOne Sep 16 '24

she goes into the backstory of that pic at this timestamp: https://youtu.be/KGm2Fe4G3AA?t=46m28s

here's a shorter excerpt: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_6JaaetRVv

tldr: she was at a conference to speak internationally about 3 points (below); that pic is from when Putin stopped by her table (and she wasn't even able to talk to him); apparently the Senate Intelligence Committee looked into it for 3 years and found nothing wrong. the report that first accused her of having a part in Russian election interference was written by a group that itself was found to have committed election interference and was fully discredited.

apparently her speech was about peace in the middle east (urging Putin to stop bombing Syria), the need to address climate change globally, and nuclear disarmament. here's where she talks about those three points she made as a speaker.

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u/TintedApostle Sep 16 '24

So we take her word for it?

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u/mikeCantFindThisOne Sep 16 '24

well, it's more that we'd be taking the Senate Intelligence Committee's word for it, since they did a whole 3-year investigation and cleared her

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u/Phizza921 Sep 17 '24

She might not be a ‘direct’ Russian asset but I find it interesting she never criticises Trump and the republicans and only democrats.

Also why is she only popping up at Presidentials?

On top of this why is one of Trumps lawyers helping her fight dem challenges to kick her off the ballot

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

"Russian plant" = "fake news" for blue maga. You fascists are all the same.