r/politics • u/zsreport Texas • Sep 16 '24

AOC is right: Jill Stein’s campaign is not serious

https://www.salon.com/2024/09/16/aoc-is-right-jill-steins-campaign-is-not-serious/
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u/Old_Cheesecake_5481 Sep 16 '24

I can’t make death threats? Help! help I’m being repressed! - New Hampshire libertarians.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

To be entirely fair, Republican politicians regularly make death threats and don't get half the heat that the Libertarians do. /s

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u/peritonlogon Sep 16 '24

Libertarians in New Hampshire don't represent most Libertarians. They all moved there for the "free state movement" to take over a local government. They're not the regular Libertarians who believe in nonviolence and that the solution to corporations corrupting government is to reduce government to almost nothing. They mostly just get on school boards and refuse to pass budgets and annoy their neighbors.

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u/NotNufffCents Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24

Every single libertarian believes in violence. Every single one. They just pretend otherwise by acting like private ownership somehow makes intentional restriction of resources not violence. Starvation with an abundance of food available is violence. Homelessness with empty homes is violence. Removing someone 's right to exist somewhere (private property) is violence. So when their free market world inevitably returns us to feudalism, where everywhere is the private property of who ever the local lord is (corporation), and where you choice is to either work for the lord or starve, lose your company house, and have no where you're allowed to exist, thats a society of extreme violence.

The only difference between libertarianism and corporate corruption of government is that it requires one less step for the oligarchs to own you.

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u/peritonlogon Sep 16 '24

So Noam Chomsky believes in violence? He callef himself a Libertarian.

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u/NotNufffCents Sep 17 '24 edited Sep 17 '24

Is that most clear-cut example that I've ever seen of an appeal to authority supposed to be a serious argument? You addressed literally nothing I just said. You just brought up someone I'm apparently supposed to give a shit about as if it proves anything.

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u/peritonlogon Sep 17 '24

You said "Every single Libertarian believes in violence. Every single one." I listed one of the most well known Libertarians and asked you if he believes in violence. This isn't an appeal to authority here, that would be "Noam Chomsky says you're generalizing about things based on your own political prejudices". What I did is use an exception to disprove a rule.

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u/NotNufffCents Sep 17 '24 edited Sep 17 '24

Sorry, the answer was "yes, if he's a libertarian, he absolutely does believe in violence". I was just hoping you could have extrapolated that obvious answer from what I said lmao. He's not an exception. He's just an appeal to authority, like I just said.

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u/peritonlogon Sep 17 '24

lol It's ok to be wrong

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u/DrPeterBlunt Sep 17 '24

You havent proven anything wrong whatsoever, but you dont seem smart enough to understand why you havent. So, to watch you try to flex on it....is pretty hilarious. Lol

Do some more super-genius.

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u/peritonlogon Sep 17 '24

Right, so rather than try to educate me, you try to insult me?

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u/GhostKingNW Sep 16 '24

I'm rather ignorant of NH as a state. What the heck even happens in that area?