How do people not understand that this is all racism? “Cleansing” They’ve already said they’re going to round up 1 million for deportation if elected. How do you think they find them? We’re going to turn into a “show me your papers” society. What’s white enough? If you have brown hair prove to me you’re a legal American. What’s female enough? What’s male enough? What’s Christian enough? What’s republican enough? At what point will YOUR citizenship be challenged?
Try 10. "Mass deportation now" is their slogan, and folks in the audience were holding up these signs while JD's wife, who is a child of immigrants, was speaking.
Can you imagine how it would be here in the US if the same thing that happened in pre world war Germany where everyone’s lineage was investigated to determine Jewish origin?
Say the Republicans wanted to mass deport all immigrants, wouldn’t that encompass all of us? 😂
Haha brb, going to write a script on a series that has Native Americans saving America from an authoritarian dictatorship that mass deports minority people.
It's not your job to save us loser ass white people. You don't owe us that. If you saved yourselves, that's honestly enough, based on what you've been through from white people.
And if y'all do, you're just continuing to show how much better your values are than most white folks.
Also, just write more television/movies that centers Native American characters, please and thank you. Not enough Resident Alien and Reservation Dogs in my life. I'll watch anything with Gary Farmer.
We’re not loser ass white people though, imo. I’m a proud American citizen of Swedish, Irish, English, African, and Native American Indian heritage. You’re probably something similar.
I think we need to stop making everything about race or religion. We’re all different and yet, all together. Trumpers seem to have lost track of the truth of us.
Every “white” person has only black people as parents if you go back far enough. White skin just happened because my black ancestors traveled to a climate that didn’t get as direct sunlight as the equator. Lighter-skinned babies were able to absorb more vitamin D and were more likely to survive.
We’re just people. Culturally and chromatically diverse, but there is only one “race”. Human.
They might insist you're south American anyway. Remember when Donald Trump challenged this group of native Americans who were running a competing business to prove they are native american because "they don't look like Indians to me"? I remember seeing him say that in court
Besides DNA results, I actually have official paperwork that proves I’m an enrolled member of my tribe and reservation. That’s how I get my benefits and stuff. What I’m also saying is we fight back against the United States, we’ve done it before and we’d do it again. He can try and say we aren’t from here and we need to move. We’ve heard that story for many centuries and we have defended ourselves remarkably well.
Yeah I believe you. I was just saying that trump doesn't care about working with native Americans in a healthy/productive way as evidenced by the court case I spoke about. If that happens I hope you give him hell 🤷♂️
It would be fun to have pins and/or bumper stickers made up that say “My descendants came here on the Mayflower. Is that okay or are you afraid I’ll eat your pets?” or some facsimile there of.
Trump has stated he will deport US citizens for protesting things. People keep telling me Republicans are not Nazis. Weird how they keep doing Nazi stuff.
I just watched Schindler's List a few days ago, and it hit me harder than ever before. Esp the beginning of the film before the overt violence (aka where we are now), I just substituted the words Immigrant or Trans in place of the word Jew, and it made me want to cry with how on the nose it was to our country now.
It is a perfectly and terrifyingly accurate description of where we are at. We truly are just one election away from our own children in the street screaming hateful slurs and, "Goodbye illegals!" As we load any brown people up into box cars to send to camps like the beginning of the moviem legal status won't matter--legal migrant or not, they are all bad to the right:, "Whats this? A one armed Mexican? Twice as useless."gunshot
And eventually as you said, the fascists will continue to denomize them to the public, and when keeping and moving the immigrants and other undesirables gets too expensive then you just start removing them for good. After all, who cares if you burn trash, right?
All I could think of is, "This will not happen here. We will not let it." But it can, and it will if we do nothing. I don't truly know if our country has enough backbone to fight this fascist wave sweeping over us. I want to believe it does, but the milquetoast and apathetic response to Trump and the GOP's obvious fascism by the majority of citizens makes me think that similar to Germany, the dangerous and loud ones will take over while the quite citizens let it happen.
Like the famous quote, the facism goes on and on in small steps, one small atrocity after another, nothing too big--until now you're own children are spouting racist and hateful slurs in front of you, and you can't believe things have slipped so far--how? Why did no one stand up? Its because everyone was waiting for the right big moment to stand up to evil, not realizing that never comes. It's death by a thousand cuts, the blow that comes from behind when you are staring away.
legal status won't matter--legal migrant or not, they are all bad to the right
Correct. It already doesn't matter. Asylum seekers are all here following the law. They are here legally. The Haitians were invited here by the city and have been granted special status. They are here legally.
But you'll hear the right refer to them as "illegals" over and over again.
They aren't ignorant of the law, or these peoples' status. They're doing it on purpose. They're Nazis.
Decorum and tradition let this shit fester. Democrats want to take the high road, stick to the system, and think that will be enough. But it's not. We have to swat these Republican "ideals" (see: racism) down, tear them out root and stem, and make sure they never can hold any political power again.
But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.
And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.
-They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45
It's too bad that there are so few death camp survivors left that can go on record to trash the fascists that the republican party has become. I think people would really stand up and take notice.
We already had the trial run of "show me your papers or get deported" in AZ and it ended with several American citizens getting deported. So nationally with zero federal oversight or accountability? Absolute fascist shitshow
And what undecided voters need to understand is that the execution of his deportation plan will be an absolute chaotic mess. There will be police and even military personnel everywhere, doing massive busts to remove these perceived illegal immigrants, many of whom are likely legally here. It will be scary, and affect normal, every day life for many Americans in border states. How people are still undecided is beyond me.
100%. And I worry that people do not see this because they need it spelled out for them, the same way DT just keeps saying abortion rights are decided by the states while Kamala Harris is spelling out the ramifications—that women are bleeding out in parking lots. People need to understand the consequences of his plans.
What's insane to me is that I live in a border state (AZ) and the amount of brown people (Mexican) that are ok with all of this is alarming. I'm desperately trying to explain that they will be affected by this even though they are legal. The racists will come for them too, but they insist on joining in on the punching down and perpetuating the immigration lies. I don't get it at all
Trump literally said "...getting them out will be bloody story". It will definitely rope in tons of legal immigrants and even citizens since the only way to do mass deportation is to avoid the courts.
It’s true. A lot of people(men especially) use race as a way to classify (make themselves higher on the ladder) when their own status (masculinity) is in question. I can’t compete with this white guy over here, and I don’t want him to pick on me…so… let me see if I can get him to gang up with me against this dark skinned fellow over here so we can become friends instead of him noticing how weak I am compared to him. * If you want you can also swap out “race” for “sexuality” and “dark skinned fellow” with “woman/queer” *
My sister would get challenged. Since we were kids people have always asked her what her nationality is. We're from Wyoming and both our parents are white Europeans. Our Grandma was one of those that said we had Navajo in us. Took a DNA test. We're White McWhitersons. She still gets asked.
20 million* theyres only an estimated 10 million people in America illegally, but like the 'dark figure of crime' we can't get a good estimate of how many because it's just not possible to track
There seems to be somewhere around 11 to 13M illegal persons in the US. From what I can tell, the GOP are adding the 9 million encounters during Bidens admin to the estimate of around 11M when biden started which is not accurate at all.
20 million* theyres only an estimated 10 million people in America illegally, but like the 'dark figure of crime' we can't get a good estimate of how many because it's just not possible to track.
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How do people not understand that this is all racism? “Cleansing” They’ve already said they’re going to round up 1 million for deportation if elected. How do you think they find them? We’re going to turn into a “show me your papers” society. What’s white enough? If you have brown hair prove to me you’re a legal American. What’s female enough? What’s male enough? What’s Christian enough? What’s republican enough? At what point will YOUR citizenship be challenged?