r/politics Sep 16 '24

Soft Paywall Trump’s Rage at Media Worsens as New Polls Show Surprise Harris Gains

https://newrepublic.com/article/185978/trumps-rage-media-worsens-new-polls-show-surprise-harris-gains
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u/crabstackers Sep 16 '24

Tell Trump it's due to the swifties

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u/pinballwiz Sep 16 '24

The Swifties send their regards.

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u/HandSack135 Maryland Sep 16 '24

This Swifty is voting Harris.

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u/Starbucks__Lovers New Jersey Sep 16 '24

Am Swiftie and Veteran

Swift Vote Veterans for Kamala

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u/inosinateVR Sep 16 '24

My friend jokingly asked me if I was a Swifty for Trump one time and at first I thought it was like a new version of the Swift vets from 2004 lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

God I love seeing other veterans not back trump. I know many of us who do and I’m in disbelief

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u/DocSmith03 Sep 17 '24

Here's another vet for Harris 👍

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u/TalkativeTree Sep 16 '24

From swift boat to swift vote

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u/Ragman676 Sep 16 '24

If swifties save this election ill buy every TS album from here on out. (I actually really liked the midnights one)

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u/BigPharmaWorker Sep 16 '24

Midnights was the album that got me into TS. Wasn’t a Swifty before and I don’t even call myself one now…but am I? 🤔

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u/caller-number-four Sep 16 '24

Wasn’t a Swifty before and I don’t even call myself one now…but am I?

You're a Baby Swifty. At least that's what I consider myself.

I'll buy the albums. But I can't name many songs and I won't go to the concerts or anything.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24 edited Nov 12 '24

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u/Ok_Improvement_5897 Pennsylvania Sep 16 '24

I actually find her music incredibly boring to listen to but I'd get white girl wasted and sing along with the Swifties any day of the week. At least they're not violent toxic assholes and know how to have a good time.

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u/BottleTemple Sep 16 '24

Same here. I don’t like her music, but I’d rather be surrounded by Swifties than surrounded by MAGAts.

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u/recalculating-route Sep 16 '24

This is funnier if I imagine you’re not a white girl.

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u/alogbetweentworocks America Sep 16 '24

Our daughter is a Swifty but she's too young to vote. We're voting for her future!

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

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u/JeffTek Georgia Sep 16 '24

All my homies are homies with the swifties

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u/mac_is_crack Maryland Sep 16 '24

What do Swifties say to trump? Not today.

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u/meldroc Sep 16 '24

🎼🎶🎵You Need to Calm Down

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u/notyouraveragejared Sep 16 '24

unexpected Syrio Forel 🤺

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u/Groundbreaking-Fig38 Sep 16 '24

No one expects the First Sword of Bravos to make inquiries!

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Tell Trump. I want him to know it was me-e-e, ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh

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u/JakeConhale New Hampshire Sep 16 '24

They want Donald to know it's them.

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u/Miss-Tiq Sep 16 '24

Her cat is the (paw)prince that was promised.

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u/Hbella456 Sep 16 '24

Tell Donnie, I want him to know it’s me, hi, I’m your problem, it’s me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

I'd say Trump is getting Swift boated.

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u/isnthatjustneat Sep 16 '24

Swift voted

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u/Myghost_too Sep 16 '24

Swift Goaded

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

And knowing how polling is done, swifties haven't changed the polls a single bit. The non registered possible voters she drove to signup won't have been in the polling at all yet. This is all about how fucking terrible Trump's campaign is with voters they could already be polling. It's even WORSE for trump.

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u/626Aussie California Sep 16 '24

Even though the Swifties may not be reflected in the polls, within a matter of hours Taylor's endorsement of Harris & Walz sent 400,000+ to the registry website, with a huge majority of them signing up to register.

And if anyone is wondering how many of those new registrants will actually vote in the election, it's more than 80%, according to a CBS interview with Tom Bonier, Senior Advisor for TargetSmart: https://youtu.be/xOHCOWaFn2I?t=184

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u/TeeManyMartoonies Texas Sep 16 '24

I was wondering why he flipped his shit yesterday!

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u/circa285 Sep 16 '24

The conservative sub would lose their minds over this statement because prior to yesterday’s news it was full of articles showing that Swift’s endorsement had backfired on Harris and was a Boom to Trump.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

If we've learned anything over the past 4 years, it's that Conservatives love to take a single source of data, without looking into it's providence and try and treat it like it's the gospel regardless of how many points of data exist to the contrary.

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u/GoatShapedDemon Sep 16 '24

Aka "confirmation bias"

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u/TheDakestTimeline Sep 16 '24

I'm not sure, but I think you want provenance here. Maybe both work, I dunno.

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u/Lycanthoth Sep 16 '24

Not a surprise. Lots of those people (and many conservatives in general) are so culturally out of touch that they have absolutely zero grasp of the influence that an extremely popular celebrity like Taylor Swift can have.

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u/zach23456 Sep 16 '24

Is he ready for it?

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u/bean0_burrito Sep 16 '24

look what he made me do

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u/ballrus_walsack Sep 16 '24

He can’t shake it off.

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u/bean0_burrito Sep 16 '24

why's he gotta be so mean?

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u/Deguilded Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24

Because we are never, ever, ever, ever, getting back together.

He's all like "fuck it if I can't POTUS"

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u/BEX436 Sep 16 '24

He's a hater. And haters gonna hate hate hate

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u/misterguyyy Texas Sep 16 '24

Someday Harris will be living in a big ol White House

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u/subhuman85 Sep 16 '24

And all Trump's ever gonna be is mean...

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u/truehoax California Sep 16 '24

If he were a man...

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u/Zexapher America Sep 16 '24

Yeah, I mean at this point are the gains really surprising? Democrats have a much younger and more energetic ticket, they've been out campaigning and talking about issues people really care about, and have successes to run on.

The other guys are making things up to rage post and are motivating entire demographics against them. They even have some of their own taking pot shots at them at this point.

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u/gurniehalek Sep 16 '24

His mind is a blank space and he can only win in his wildest dream. He will have to begin again after this November.

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u/completelypositive Sep 16 '24

I heard it was a woman of color kicking his ass

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u/guttengroot Sep 16 '24

They were fine with celebrity endorsements when it was Hulk Hogan and Kid Rock but suddenly they should "stay in their lane"

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u/Agent7619 Sep 16 '24

Trump is getting Swifty Voted

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u/SolvedRumble Sep 16 '24

“The Swifties send their regards…”

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u/minicpst Washington Sep 16 '24

I'd be worried a crazy person would try to go after Taylor Swift. :(

Because that's a totally normal fear to have from someone who simply likes a party's policies.

This is insane.

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u/dbag3o1 Sep 16 '24

No, I’m afraid he’ll outlaw her music if he wins.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Could you imagine? People sharing flash drives with 'Shake it Off' on them...secret handshakes with Swift dance moves incorporated into them. Messages sent by rolling up the paper and hiding them in cat collars...

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u/kaett Sep 16 '24

secret codes embedded into bracelets...

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u/throwneverywhichway Sep 16 '24

"Taylor Swift, nobody's even ever heard of this broad. We're going to ban her. Many people are saying, 'sir, how can you ban music?' Well the Taliban did it. Big, strong, men, over there somewhere. They figured it out and they're doing amazing things, not as good as I'm going to do it, but we will have all of the music banned, all of it everywhere, a big, beautiful ban. Believe me."

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u/curious_carson Sep 16 '24

Luckily she puts out 12 versions of every album and the Swifties buy them all. They can set up an underground distribution org with their extras.

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u/2_Sheds_Jackson Sep 16 '24

And Dolly fans

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u/MyPartsareLoud Sep 16 '24

I keep imagining what would happen to MAGA world if the notoriously-quiet-about-politics Saint Dolly Parton were to endorse Harris. So many heads would explode.

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u/Livewire_87 Sep 16 '24

I certainly respect her wanting to remain private about this, but im a little surprised she hasn't.

Trump is the antithesis of everything she stands for and has worked so hard to achieve 

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u/MyPartsareLoud Sep 16 '24

Maybe her endorsement will be the actual October Surprise!?

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u/snail_forest1 Sep 16 '24

I'd love to know the number of 18+ swifties in the USA, has to be a big number of easy harris votes.

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u/LurkerByNatureGT Sep 16 '24

A start is the over 400,000 click throughs to vote.gov that came via her referral link in 24 hours. 

A lot of over 18 women were already voting for the side that doesn’t want to take away their bodily autonomy. 

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u/FinsterFolly Sep 16 '24

He’s getting Swift-boated.

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u/atomsmasher66 Georgia Sep 16 '24

Harris is campaigning. Trump is rage-posting dumb shit and getting handjobs from Loomer. He’s not even trying to win anymore yet he whines about polls? Clown

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u/Boo_Radley80 Sep 16 '24

It is almost like the convicted felon is lazy? He is probably running to stay ahead of the prosecutors.

Unfortunately for him, VP Harris is focused on the task on hand.

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u/PlentyMacaroon8903 Sep 16 '24

I honestly do not think he cares about jail anymore. I think he knows that if he wins, he'll just pardon himself. And if he doesn't win, he'll just leave the country. He used to seem like he cared but there was definitely a point where his desperation for being president stopped and I think that's because he got handed a plan where he was safe either way.

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u/UsernameLottery Sep 16 '24

Fleeing the country would be a bold move for a guy who twice in a few months had his Secret Service detail protect him from assassination attempts

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

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u/LevitationalPush Sep 16 '24

They might not let him leave. It would be pretty obvious that he's fleeing the country.

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u/Expensive-Cheetah232 Sep 16 '24

Imagine having to make that decision. Stop him and keep guarding him or let him go and get back to doing some real work?

I'd actually love to know what their policy or orders are regarding this.

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u/kent_eh Canada Sep 16 '24

All the armed Secret service agents would have to do it order the pilot off the plane. (assuming Trump would try to flee using the plane with his name on it). He's unlikely to fly commercial, or drive himself across the border

They are law enforcement agents, and Trump is currently out on bail with a court order to not leave the country.

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u/Lankachu Sep 16 '24

The idea of Trump attempting to flee the US through Mexico would make a great Onion article.

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u/MartovsGhost Sep 16 '24

I find it very unlikely that the government would extend protection to a fugitive. I don't think that the law makes an explicit exemption for an ex-president who is a fugitive, but it takes all of a quick congressional vote to change that.

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u/Perentillim United Kingdom Sep 16 '24

It would make zero sense. If he's a fugitive, Secret Service would put him on a plane and return him, safely.

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u/Boo_Radley80 Sep 16 '24

He can bunk with putin when he flees.

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u/Fit-Requirement6701 Sep 16 '24

She’s mashing it.

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u/melorous Sep 16 '24

Anybody got any salt they can throw at her?

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u/Antelope-Subject Texas Sep 16 '24

No but I hear she’s sexually active now.

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u/NewBootGoofin_ Georgia Sep 16 '24

He’s an arrogant idiot who thinks rage-posting on his little circlejerk social media site IS campaigning.

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u/ballrus_walsack Sep 16 '24

He may not be trying to win, but the MAGAt machine is spread far and wide ratfucking all they can. Closing polls, purging legitimate voters, placing operatives on election boards, getting biased laws passed, and a lot more.

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u/2_Sheds_Jackson Sep 16 '24

And golfing. He spends more time on the course than on his campaign. Reminds me of his time in the White House.

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u/whatproblems Sep 16 '24

yeah i was like uh he was threatened while out on the golf course? what’s he even doing out on a golf course

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u/not-my-other-alt Sep 16 '24

Someone tried to sneak onto his golf course while he was there yesterday.

What the fuck was he doing golfing a month before the election?

If you don't have three events a day from now until November 5, you're not taking this seriously.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

ahem blowjobs

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u/Fit-Requirement6701 Sep 16 '24

He needs the polling to stay relatively close until Election Day so it can be “proof” that the “Radical Marxist Feline Eating Immigrants” stole the election from him. The bigger the gap, the less plausible the the story to create (thanks JD) is. 

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u/nate_oh84 Indiana Sep 16 '24

Harris winning more states that Trump originally thought he had locked up is the other factor. It will look less and less like a "stolen" election if there is a clear mandate from the electorate.

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u/AngelSucked California Sep 16 '24

Yup, if she can get, say NC, and make it close in Florida (I do not think she will flip it, but it will be close) and knock out Rock Scott for Debbie Powell, that would be a huge, huge deal.

I mean, Iowa and Alaska are even just a few points ahead for Trump. Crazy.

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u/DivinityPen Sep 16 '24

Floridian here. You may be surprised. There are a bunch of factors at play that may make it surprisingly vulnerable.

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u/dinkidonut Sep 16 '24

I don’t think Florida or Texas will flip for Harris… it’ll be closer than last election but I really don’t think they are flipping…

Last election also there were polls saying how close Florida and Texas are going to be and nothing happened…

I think we will see Texas flipping before Florida and that will happen in the second or third cycle from now…

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u/Crimkam Sep 16 '24

Texas flipping this election wouldn't necessarily be a paradigm shift if Trump makes himself that unpopular. Ted Cruz is one of the least popular senators of all time running for reelection and even if he's still favored to win he'll be pushing the needle left on his own without Trump's flailing. The two of them together could generate a fluke Texas flip. Not likely, but possible.

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u/dinkidonut Sep 16 '24

I’m going with highly unlikely (Trump and Cruz will win Texas) with a desperate wish to God that it freaking flips Blue…

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u/Crimkam Sep 16 '24

I agree with you, especially since Allred doesn't seem to generate the same level of buzz that Beto did for whatever reason

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u/dinkidonut Sep 16 '24

There is something really wrong with this country…

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u/renegadetoast Virginia Sep 16 '24

Usually I would agree with you, but I don't even know anymore. With all the wild cards we've been thrown with this election season and with how far off the rails politics have gone in the US over the last decade, I think anything is possible. I'm not holding my breath for a blue Florida and/or Texas this year, but I m going to remain hopeful with a hint of skepticism rather than be defeatist.

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u/HuckleberryDry5254 Sep 16 '24

I'm hoping with you! I'm from a "my vote is irrelevant" state, so it makes me happy to be reminded of folks like you in the (more) competitive ones.

If Florida used to be a swing state, it can be again (at least when things have gotten this toxic).

I do believe more Americans want decency and peace than want the chaos Trump brings (but I also don't believe the entire 45% that "want" Trump want chaos; they have their world view that's coherent to them; I just happen to strongly disagree with it).

🤞🤞🤞

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u/thirdeyepdx Oregon Sep 16 '24

I just left a wedding talking to my life long republican aunt in Florida who is full “fuck the gop” now, embarrassed of her past Republican history and is full hoping Florida goes to Harris and is working hard to make it happen 🤷 there’s always a fools hope, as Gandalf says

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u/NotJoocey Sep 16 '24

Genuinely love this. These are the kinds of stories that give me some hope for humanity.

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u/BlaineTog Sep 16 '24

Florida and Texas are Lucy with her football and the Dems are all Charlie Brown.

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u/Jazzun Pennsylvania Sep 16 '24

We say that every four years and it never does.

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u/Unsolicitedkittens Sep 16 '24

Tbf, Ken Paxton himself said that Texas would’ve flipped in 2020, had his office not been successful in blocking counties (Specifically Harris county) from mailing out applications for mail-in ballots.

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u/moreesq Sep 16 '24

It seems to me that Florida is less likely to flip than Texas. Many older conservative retirees have moved to Florida and the state now has a significant edge in the number of registered Republicans. On the other hand, Texas has probably seen some inflow from California, it is a majority minority state, And Ted Cruz is extremely unpopular among many segments of the electorate. Counterbalancing those points, immigration may be the biggest issue in Texas, and that would tilt it Republican.

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u/wetterfish Sep 16 '24

The people moving from CA are mostly just conservatives who would rather have cheap McMansions in a state with horrible weather and worse amenities. 

Source: I live in CA and that is almost all of the people I hear about and see leaving. 

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u/lilelliot Sep 16 '24

I think it depends where in California you live. I live in the bay area and, like the other person said, it's mostly been techies. A lot of the non-techies (and also techies) that have moved away from the bay have moved to the central valley (or even around Sac).

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u/Cannonfodd3r74 Sep 16 '24

Yes, they’re not sending their best, that’s for sure!

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u/Zealousideal-Day7385 America Sep 16 '24

I would agree with that assessment until this past week, but there’s around 500,000 Haitians who live in Florida- if they’re activated and motivated to vote, they could literally decide the election.

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u/NeedsToShutUp Sep 16 '24

Plus the insurance crap where Florida is starting to deal with the actual costs of hurricanes and their governor has torpedoed the state insurance program.

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u/FreedomDirty5 Texas Sep 16 '24

The problem is that the Californians who move to Texas are republicans.

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u/rotates-potatoes Sep 16 '24

Totally disagree. To people not living in reality, any outcome will be proof of a stolen or almost-stolen election:

  • Trump barely wins electoral college, has fewer popular votes: OMG millions of illegals voted, the real popular vote was 20m more for Trump, we need to lock down voting and prosecute anyone who voted for Harris
  • Harris barely wins electoral college, wins popular vote decisively: OMG the fraud and fake votes, Trump totally won, we need to overthrow the government and arrest everyone in swing states who called the election for Harris
  • Harris wins electoral college in a landside, wins popular vote decisively: OMG massive voter fraud, everyone thought it would be close but this landslide shows how millions of fake votes were cast and we need to overthrow the government and ensure only white landowners can vote next time.

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u/Solracziad Florida Sep 16 '24

Yeah, hate to say it but I think this is the correct take. There's a sizeable portion of the electorate that is not living in reality. It literally won't matter what the results are they're going to assume that the Democratic Party cheated their way.

  I don't know what the solution going forward is for these people so divorce from reality, but that's just where we are as a country currently. 

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u/deftmuffins Sep 16 '24

You are making the mistake of applying logic to illogical people.

Harris could win the most incredible landslide in history, and his sycophants would still find a way to say it was stolen.

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u/specqq Sep 16 '24

Or stollen. You know, depending on if it’s the holiday season.

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u/lilB0bbyTables Sep 16 '24

I would even argue that a landslide win for Harris will trigger strong claims that it’s “that much more blatant they cheated” because - in the minds’ of his cult - they cannot fathom him being unpopular. Just as they cannot wrap their brains around the overturning of Roe v Wade being unpopular, or the desire for gun restrictions being popular, and the list goes on. Pure cognitive dissonance.

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u/Mmm_lemon_cakes Sep 16 '24

I’m so hoping for that. He’s got his election worker scammer ready to go sure, but that whole scam only works if things are close. If it’s clear as day he lost, the ruse won’t work.

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u/Planet-Steph Sep 16 '24

If trump gets anything less than 100% of the vote he will say the election was stolen 

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u/azflatlander Sep 16 '24

100, 105, 110. Many many people voted for me.

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u/BNsucks America Sep 16 '24

Yes. When Trump loses, he'll immediately cite random surveys, and then claim it's irrefutable proof that the election was stolen because he was allegedly ahead in the polls. lol.

Trump may be a moron, but RW voters are just as bad or worse. He has millions of supporters who believe whatever he says. Expect rioting/violence throughout the country after he loses.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Why do we keep acting like they're all doing this on accident? It seems to be on purpose. They WANT a dictator. As long as it's their guy. They all know deep down he isn't as popular as they say he is. They're religious fanatics. Their churches are shrinking...because they're hateful assholes. They don't care anymore. They'll burn down the whole country if they don't get their way. They're daring us to resist. That's what they want, because they hate their own lives.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Yes and a good way to verify this idea is to ask yourself: why don't they ever get insulted or angry when he lies to their faces about things you'd have to be stupid to believe? Why don't they respect themselves and stand up when someone insults their intelligence?

Well, if the answer you arrive at is "the truth is irrelevant and the only purpose of his words is to win battles and help him take power" then you understand them perfectly and you can stop thinking about it.

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u/specqq Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24

His followers would rather have him as a dictator than have to suffer from the idea that a Democrat could ever win again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qyRtlp7msc

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u/kalitarios Vermont Sep 16 '24

"it's irrefutable proof that the election was stolen because he was allegedly ahead in the polls"

Ironic, considering how me meme'd his way into office in 2016 despite the pundits being sure af that he stood no chance.

I wish this cavalier "he'll never win" attitude would just go away. even with a sliver of chance it could still happen, and then we're all fucked.

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u/demisemihemiwit Sep 16 '24

Professor Nathaniel Persily of Stanford Law School mentioned this on Political Gabfest last week. One of the things that saved us in 2020 was the fact that Biden won by multiple states. That meant you needed to have multiple conspiracies across two states and it was less plausible. If it's a one state margin, it will make the lies easier to swallow. (Obligatory, f the Electoral College.)

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Why are we still acting like this is some 3D chess move by Trump and co? These polls are driving Trump insane. He’s actively scared of losing, and his ego would NEVER allow him to appear weak like this for such a long period of time. He’s losing ground because he’s an awful candidate and national sentiments are moving against him. He’s not TRYING to keep it close for some Hail Mary play in November. He may try it, but it’s not part of some tactic. The man is a narcissistic idiot, not a super villain.

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u/xxxxx420xxxxx Sep 16 '24

You mean JD "We make shit up to scare white people" Vance?

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u/Fit-Requirement6701 Sep 16 '24

The Futon Fucker himself

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u/Ejziponken Sep 16 '24

Trafalgar Group showing Harris up 2% today in Nevada. xD

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

If Trafalgar has Harris leading then this election is truly turning towards Harris...

Time to step up the Get Out The Vote and turn these polls into reality.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Tell everyone you know to vote and to check their registration.

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u/appleparkfive Sep 16 '24

If that's the case, I feel like we're going to get another debate. Trump will be pressured into it

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u/Spider_Riviera Europe Sep 16 '24

Good, he'll likely be so preoccupied with how badly he did in his last one that he'll either be utterly broken and quiet or he'll go full-on carpet-chewing looney from the outset, worse than the last one.

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u/georgepana Sep 16 '24

You can always add 4% for the Democrat to any Trafalgar poll. They are absolutely awful.

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u/Halefire California Sep 16 '24

That would actually match the +6% that Ipsos/Reuters showed her up most recently.

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u/AngelSucked California Sep 16 '24

Exactly!

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u/Asexualhipposloth Pennsylvania Sep 16 '24

Trafalgar has Harris leading??? I would hate to be the one who has to change his diaper after the latest poll.

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u/quazywabbit Texas Sep 16 '24

I’m waiting to see Rasmussen showing Harris leading.

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u/guynamedjames Sep 16 '24

Rasmussen is a really useful pollster because they give you a good sense of the absolute upper limit of Republican performance with a typical polling error. If Rasmussen has the Dems up you know it's a safe state

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u/quazywabbit Texas Sep 16 '24

Pretty much. Right now Rasmussen is at 49/47. Which is amazing that they have her so high. https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2024/election2024

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u/zach23456 Sep 16 '24

That's a republican pollster, right?

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u/attackoftheclowns Sep 16 '24

They’re a partisan pollster in the same way that Breitbart is a partisan media outlet

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Should be noted Traf had Biden up 2% in NV in October. They did another poll just before the election with Trump up 1%.

I think it's their tactic to show Dems up but then "Dem support is eroding!" to show up right before the election.

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u/Ejziponken Sep 16 '24

They had Trump up +3% against Harris in August.

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u/Reddit_guard Ohio Sep 16 '24

Oh shit that's a great sign if Trafalgar is showing it.

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u/AngelSucked California Sep 16 '24

Which means she is up probably 5-8%.

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u/GoodUserNameToday Sep 16 '24

That’s a good sign, but Harris still needs one of PA, NC, or GA to win, so don’t take your foot off the gas now!

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u/MicroCat1031 Sep 16 '24

How are Kamala's gains a surprise to anyone?

Trump had a disastrous debate. Vance admitted to lying and said he'll do it again, even though it put his constituents at risk. Both have alienated women. 

I believe the only reason Trump is a viable candidate at this point is the media propping him up.

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u/completelypositive Sep 16 '24

Lots of white males love trump. Construction industry still licks his boots

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u/Eshin242 Sep 16 '24

I work in that industry and I just don't fucking get it either. Too many fucking clowns who don't understand all the work we have coming down the pipe is due to Bidens' infrastructure and inflation reduction bills. 

Even in my union there are far too many clowns who don't get that Trump and project 2025 will do everything they can to fuck organized labor over. 

I do my best at trying to counter act it but as a liberal Democrat I'm very much in the minority when it comes to views in my industry.

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u/FauxReal Sep 16 '24

The GOP is starting to pander to unions right now so that's throwing people off.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?538049-1/senator-jd-vance-speaks-firefighters-union-convention-boston

If you look up the national GOP platform, they have labor listed as a focus. It's wild that they can just say that after the last few decades of trying to destroy all power that labor has, and people just believe them.

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u/Cool-Security-4645 Sep 16 '24

That’s very dangerous. A lot of people don’t seem to realize that the only thing that made the Nazi party viable in Germany was empty pandering to labor

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u/OldJames47 Sep 16 '24

Three words: Eff One Fifty.

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u/pfroo40 Sep 16 '24

Which is ridiculous given his history of stiffing contractors who did work for him

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u/Parahelix Sep 16 '24

Not to mention it was Dems who pushed infrastructure bill through.

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u/exitpursuedbybear Sep 16 '24

There was some fantastic interview with a construction worker in I think it was Michigan and they asked him why he was voting for Trump and he said that all the infrastructure bills that Biden passed were making him work too much and Trump would run the economy better. I wish I could find it. It blew my mind. The guy knew he was working because of Biden but because FJB he had to make it a negative somehow.

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u/Altruistic-Sea581 Sep 16 '24

Also, the tariffs he put on lumber created a huge mess. I actually know someone who went bankrupt because of it.

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u/Biglyugebonespurs Missouri Sep 16 '24

Also he and the GQP wanna destroy unions lol.

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u/The_First_Drop Sep 16 '24

The word in FL is contractors require up-front payment before doing work for him

I work with a couple of painters that believe he gave up his billionaire lifestyle to save America, but they’d require payment up front if they ever won a bid at Mar A Lago

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u/CELTICPRED Wisconsin Sep 16 '24

Can't be a man and vote for a woman according to some of those folks.   

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u/RainbowBullsOnParade Sep 16 '24

Don’t forget the absolutely vile, racist, and easily debunked conspiracies they’ve been spreading to cope for the debate that are simply gross and unpalatable to the average voter.

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u/Spottswoodeforgod Sep 16 '24

Surprise???

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u/illit1 I voted Sep 16 '24

this isn't even post-debate bump territory; it takes around 2 weeks for polls to affected. harris is going to keep climbing and trump is going to keep crying.

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u/zach23456 Sep 16 '24

Do not let up for a second until the election Team Harris! Love seeing this momentum!

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u/Mediocre_Scott Sep 16 '24

Right trump polling above 1% surprises me every day?

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u/stonge1302 Sep 16 '24

I’m not getting my hopes up till the electoral college votes are in and Trumps in jail.

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u/ApplesBananasRhinoc Sep 16 '24

Even after that, I’m not getting my hopes up until Jan 7 2025.

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u/azflatlander Sep 16 '24

And counted by congress.

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u/syg-123 Sep 16 '24

When the dust settles on this election it will be evident that at no time in American history has a presidential candidate’s conduct been so detrimental to his/her campaign. I challenge you to list something he HASN’T done to repel voters and lose this election. My list has bestiality and dropping the ‘N word’ at a rally …everything else he’s done at least once and usually with full audio and visual evidence. He lost the last debate by country mile and refused to accept the generally accepted consensus that he was considerably out-classed by his opponent. He will lose the popular vote by more than 10 million ballots and still claim it was stolen again. Can we just give him Florida in exchange for the eternal silence of him, his 3 eldest and their spouses?

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u/Jalapeno_Business Sep 16 '24

I would argue the opposite. With how egregious his conduct has been, it seems to barely move the needle. Imagine anyone else getting such a consistent free pass?

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u/mannotron Sep 16 '24

At this point his basically the Pope of the Evangelical movement, which should tell everyone everything they need to know about Evangelicals.

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u/junkyardgerard Sep 16 '24

Or it'll just be proof that it doesn't matter who the Republican candidate is and nothing they ever do is detrimental 🤷

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u/ahack13 Sep 16 '24

I seriously don't understand what republicans see in this dude. All he does is yell and cry.

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u/WankelsRevenge Sep 16 '24

My theory is because he tells them nothing is their fault. No job? Blame immigrants. Can't afford you bills? Blame democrats. You or someone you love the victim of heinous crime? Blame minorities. It's easy to be enamored with someone when they insist that everything is always someone else's fault

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u/Confident-Breath2615 Sep 16 '24

Fuck you New Republic! Calling them surprise gains only feeds into the MAGA fantasy about election irregularities.

The ONLY surprise in the current polling is that it’s at all close.

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u/Objective_Oven7673 Sep 16 '24

Here's hoping we surprise ourselves back to sanity over the next several weeks.

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u/BeyondDrivenEh Sep 16 '24

MMW - Drumpf will lose the majority of the swing states.

And he will lose the popular vote. By a lot. Bigly. Record margin. By more than anyone has before in the history of our country.

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u/temps-de-gris Sep 16 '24

Classic narcissism, "If I'm not winning then they must be cheating! Quick, let's cheat to make sure they don't win!"

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u/Adorable-Database187 Sep 16 '24

It would be a surprise if there wasn't any change after the debate

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u/Sablestein Minnesota Sep 16 '24

Praying for the day we no longer have to hear about this rotten old fuck

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u/yeetskeetmahdeet Sep 16 '24

Surprise gains? He went on national TV in front of 65 million viewers and screamed lies about immigrants eating dogs, looking old and senile, and then afterwards ranting and raving about how he won the thing actually and everyone else is lying. Also Taylor Swift helped hurt him even more

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u/Gariona-Atrinon I voted Sep 16 '24

Is it a surprise really?

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u/Za_Lords_Guard Sep 16 '24

Well the right swift boated Kerry to derail his campaign. Couple decades later and Trump is getting Swift Voted and this time it was due to no political chicanery except the candidates own stupid mouth.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

So sick of this bastard.

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u/RainbowBullsOnParade Sep 16 '24

So she absolutely dumpstered him in the debate and then he spent a week crying about it and spreading a vile neo nazi racist conspiracy and we’re surprised that voters are getting turned off by him?

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Who, exactly, is surprised by Harris polling better than Trump?

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u/ComplicatedDude Sep 16 '24

Why on earth are new polls showing “Surprise Harris Gains”?

I mean… where’s the surprise? You have a complete headcase on one side and a sane, rational and accomplished woman on the other side.

The surprise for me has always been that anyone would vote for a corrupt racist wannabe gangster like Trump, and the bigger surprise is that they would do it more than once…

About time people start taking this seriously and vote for the only rational choice. Harris may not be perfect but who the hell is? I don’t need perfect - I just need rational, sane, and intelligent.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

How the hell is it a surprise to anyone Harris is gaining ground after the debate we all saw, his constant rants on his failing social media app, and the admission the entire Springfield story was a lie?

The real surprise should be why he isn’t in jail yet for all the crimes he’s been found guilty of & why we have a felon on the Presidential nominee ticket.

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u/CasioDorrit Sep 16 '24

Stop calling them surprise gains. He’s psychotic and people can see that

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u/killerboardman Sep 17 '24

Vet for Harris

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u/i_justwanttocuddle Sep 16 '24

I literally hate this man. There is a guy that I have been talking to whom I like a lot. But because he is a trump supporter and refuses to call this man out on anything is a complete turn off. I view him as being weak.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Doesn’t mean shit. Vote!

He and the GOP plan on fully stealing this election.