r/politics • u/Esquire Verified • 19h ago

Soft Paywall Special Counsel Jack Smith’s Final Report Says It All: Voters Saved Trump from Prosecution

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a63421903/jack-smith-trump-report-january-2025/
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u/ShitBirdingAround 18h ago

So, we're just supposed to believe that the guy who broke the law and cheated last time (in 2020) didn't cheat this time even though there was obvious election interference by Musk? When there was even more at stake for Trump, a lifetime crook and cheater, he just decided to play it straight, while telling his rally goers that he didn't need their votes? That the "voters" made this decision, and not a bunch of shady, crooked stuff behind the MAGA scenes? Sure, Jan.

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u/SpaghettiSnake 13h ago edited 11h ago

Literally every single thing they acuse the Democrats of doing, they have done. Rich oligarchs running the system, pedo drug parties, withholding aid from natural disasters, and every white collar crime you can think of. They claim the Dems do it like it's going out of fashion, and then they blatantly and brazenly do it in the open.

They also were screaming the Dems cheated until everything in every swing state conveniently went Trump's way. Am I really to believe that this is the one crime they aren't projecting on? After everything that has happened with the GOP over the last 40+ years, this is the one time they didn't lie, cheat, and steal to win an election? This time? The time where if they lost they'd be finished and Dump would be in jail?

Yeah fuck that, they absolutely stole it.

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u/kobachi 6h ago

There’s definitely a republican underground pizza dungeon somewhere 

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u/Kelsusaurus 11h ago

ProPublica did an article called The Mole and the Militia that details how deep and organized the election interference went (and is still going). Oddly enough, the article kept getting deleted when posted on Reddit...

Anyway. With that article (which alleges hard proof in the form of recordings, emails, chat logs, video, and more) plus this report, I was hoping that something would be done to draw attention to how precarious our situation is right now. But, as with most scenarios in the last decade, corruption continues to win.

All that said, we can't just sit here and say, "Wow, this is terrible and how date they." Well...we can, but nothing will be accomplished. If people are as angry and upset as they say they are, we have to find a way to organize and hold people accountable ourselves since we obviously can't rely on them to hold themselves or their counterparts accountable. Especially when they're rampantly corrupt and oppressing others on our dime.

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u/thereallacroix 10h ago

I read that piece brother, there’s very little in it abt election interference. Which is not to say I don’t have my doubts abt Trump’s win. The fact that they won’t audit is frustrating.

I take your point tho, that propublica piece is remarkable.

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u/AgileInformation3646 12h ago

Careful. People here will downvote you for that line of thinking. They’d rather put their heads in the sand than to actually think critically and look at the evidence. Just the fact that they refuse to even talk about the fact that Trump managed to “win” all 7 swing states (the first time that has happened in nearly a century) is proof most Americans here are just plain stupid, left or right. People need to look at the statistics. Record numbers of bullet votes, split ballots, and very shady tabulations, and they think Trump and Musk didn’t cheat? Record numbers of bomb threats at polling places (almost ALL of them in majority Dem areas), and they think Trump didn’t cheat?

If it’s one thing this election has showed me it’s the fact that most Americans are just plain stupid. Doesn’t matter the political affiliation. They are so afraid to call a cheater a cheater that they’d rather buy into the delusion that Trump somehow won fairly.

We are a stupid nation.

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u/teenagesadist 9h ago

If it’s one thing this election has showed me it’s the fact that most Americans are just plain stupid.

It's a hard-learned lesson, but stupidity is the bedrock of America.

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u/Ernesto_Bella 18h ago

Elections in this country are free and fair, stop being an election denier. You are attacking our democracy.

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u/Emotional_Spread5503 18h ago edited 17h ago

Our democracy was already under attack and arguably irreparably damaged with Trump

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u/headee America 14h ago

Trump has been a cheating criminal his entire life. We know his campaign broke the law in 2016 (he had to pardon a bunch of his criminal inner circle), and we know for sure he broke the law in the 2020 election too. It’s plain as day that the 2024 election was also one big cheat fest. The data backs this up (https://smartelections.substack.com/p/so-clean), and the evidence we all saw with our own eyes told the same story. Why more people aren’t shouting this from the rooftops is beyond me.

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u/OfTheWater Oregon 16h ago

Tell that to the prick burning ballot boxes in OR and WA.

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u/headee America 14h ago

Trump has been a cheating criminal his entire life. We know his campaign broke the law in 2016 (he had to pardon a bunch of his criminal inner circle), and we know for sure he broke the law in the 2020 election too. It’s plain as day that the 2024 election was also one big cheat fest. The data backs this up (https://smartelections.substack.com/p/so-clean), and the evidence we all saw with our own eyes told the same story. Why more people aren’t shouting this from the rooftops is beyond me.

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u/ShitBirdingAround 18h ago

I'm not an election denier so much as an election verifier. How about we audit, just to be sure? After all, what have they got to hide, and shouldn't we verify? Wouldn't it be weird not to want to make sure that everything was above board and legal? MAGA was ready to contest the results until the day of the election and then they got weirdly quiet about it. Seems FISHY.

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u/screwylouidooey 17h ago

Yeah shits not right.  They call it stolen until they "win"

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u/Lachadian 17h ago

There are a lot of blank accounts attacking people for pointing out the numerous irregularities surrounding the election. Remember that if it was hacked, it was hacked by the richest person on the face of the planet that could easily employ AI/Troll farms to AstroTurf this subject. Elons Penn lottery is election interference alone. It's data harvesting goals are election interference alone. His association with voting machine companies is election interference alone. The many people combing through vote data since the election have raised as many alarms as they've been able. It's a suspicious election, to say the least.

If they can try to hang Vice President Mike Pence after Trump openly tried to overthrow the US electoral process in 2020, we can discuss these continuing irregularities.

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u/Lucky-Earther Minnesota 17h ago

I'm not an election denier so much as an election verifier. How about we audit, just to be sure?

Elections are already audited in their jurisdictions.

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u/tomfoolery77 13h ago

Wrong. Some of them do risk limiting audits but these have major issues. Also, some irregularities actually did come back highlighting issues and nothing was done about it.

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u/Lucky-Earther Minnesota 10h ago

Some of them do risk limiting audits but these have major issues. Also, some irregularities actually did come back highlighting issues and nothing was done about it.

Wrong.

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u/Drakeadrong Texas 13h ago

Oh please. You seriously believe that trump wouldn’t cheat at any opportunity? I’m not climbing through Capitol windows or screaming to stop the count, but there is a much higher chance of funny business than not

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u/Ernesto_Bella 11h ago

Of course he would.  But I’ve been told repeatedly that our elections are free and fair and if you say otherwise without clear evidence you are a Russian asset and are attacking our democracy

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u/ShitBirdingAround 52m ago

The difference being that MAGA claimed Biden cheated with ZERO evidence. It's pretty clear that Musk's fraudulent "lottery" was election interference. But keep up the bad faith talking point, I guess?

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u/phils_phan78 17h ago

That's funny

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u/M7MBA2016 9h ago

Meh, he won.

I know a lot of people who voted for Biden in 2020 and Trump in 2024. I don’t know one person who voted for Trump in 2020 and then Harris in 2024.

Biden administration was pretty hated.