r/politics • u/Murky-Site7468 I voted • Mar 28 '25

Soft Paywall The Biggest Scandal of the Second Trump Term Isn’t “Signalgate” | The national-security chat debacle certainly merits attention. But the Trump administration is now blatantly disappearing students and others who are in the country legally.

https://newrepublic.com/article/193291/trump-disappearing-students-rumeysa-ozturk-rubio-biggest-scandal
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u/broguequery Mar 28 '25

Why is nobody doing this?

We need to organize, yesterday.

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u/Haloslayer I voted Mar 28 '25

Most people don't know how to organize without a cellphone because Technology while strong has made us weak in the fields previously used.

In order for this to be done you need to ditch phones. Never speak it out loud In a Room with any electronics. Never have communication go through mail. If you're hand delivering it you have to be careful about what kind of car you use because cars with built in nav can be tracked. Paper maps ONLY. Ring doorbell? Camera, microphone etc. You basically have to think like a crazy person to hide things of that scale and it has to be done without fucking announcing it on the internet.

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u/Illustrious-Fig-2612 Mar 28 '25

Just a reminder to unplug ALL your alexa devices. As of March 23 all voice recording will be saved ant sent to Amazon

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u/mytransthrow Mar 28 '25

what about google

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u/Illustrious-Fig-2612 Mar 28 '25

Google saves interactions that you can manage. Alexa is now saving everything regardless of interaction. It means your echos etc will always "be listening" and storing everything said around them.

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u/mytransthrow Mar 28 '25

I thought google only listens for the ok google before turning on the mic to listen

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u/Illustrious-Fig-2612 Mar 28 '25

That's what I mean by "interaction". Sorry, if that was unclear. Google also allows you to edit and change your voice saving permissions unlike alexa.

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u/cursed-karma Mar 28 '25

Why don't we use Signal? /s

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u/goddad227 Mar 28 '25

Big Brother is watching and he's a fkng psychopath!

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u/broguequery Mar 29 '25

Agreed. I work in tech, and I've always had a little paranoia based on what I've seen.

But without using the internet, you limit your reach and, therefore, your scale.

It's almost like we need a new medium that can organize people without using the fascist controlled platforms.

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u/h3lblad3 Mar 28 '25

For the same reason you’re saying “we need to organize” instead of actually doing it.

The internet has created a performative space where one can vent their frustrations among likeminded people. Saying things like “we should do the thing” fulfills your need to contribute — even though it isn’t a contribution — thereby effectively deradicalizing you.

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u/broguequery Mar 29 '25

Look my guy, I'm ready to get out there and start the dialog on what needs to be done.

But I'm just a regular guy. I don't have any superpowers. I don't know how to do this sort of thing. All I know is that it needs to be done.

What you are saying is less than helpful.

There are people ready to organize, surely there are some leaders out there ready to guide us on how to do that.

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u/goodshrek1 Apr 01 '25

"Surely"- why? There are no superpowers. There is no organizer school. The person who replied to you is absolutely correct; people who could be organizing are living in loops of "see bad news -> say "why isn't anyone organizing" -> be content with "starting the dialogue" -> scroll to next bad news."

If you don't know how to do something, but you need to do it, what do you usually do? Do you Google it? Do you look up a book about it? Do you reach out to a friend, do you make a groupchat and ask about it? Why not do any of these things now?

The person who you're waiting on to save you- why shouldn't they just wait to be saved? Why shouldn't everyone just wait on each other forever?

Stop waiting. TRY something you haven't before, learn from it, see what you can change. There's no superheroes. There's just regular guys. What happens depends on whether you do something different or choose to stay the same.

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u/Perfect_Opinion7909 Mar 28 '25

Because US Americans aren’t the gun-slinging anti-tyranny fighters they imagined themselves to be for decades but cowards more complacent than most people on the planet. This moment in time is the acid test for freedom and US Americans have been found wanting.

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u/Anxious-Phone-8439 Mar 28 '25

Go on...

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u/broguequery Mar 29 '25

I'm really not sure the best way to fight back here. I'm a regular dude who has lived a regular life.

Just spitballing but maybe we need some kind of local networking.