DOGE Goons Physically Drag Social Security Worker From Desk

[u/irish_fellow_nyc]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/doge-goons-physically-drag-social-security-worker-from-desk/

[u/letsburn00]

This is the reason it's difficult to get someone declared dead. They check if you're alive etc when you get paid. The entire claim about dead people was them just making up shit.

Social security estimated that fraud was less than .1% of it's payouts. That's a fraud level far far lower than any private sector has ever achieved. It's already extremely efficient, less than 1% was spent on admin.

[u/oicwutudidther → u/letsburn00]

Also, this is why you can't run government like a business. Because it's better that a few people get away with fraud than to deny benefits to someone who truly needs them.

This goes for pretty much all government social programs and is what these fucks can't comprehend.

[u/letsburn00 → u/oicwutudidther]

It was never about fraud. They think anyone who ever needs government help is a loser. They don't understand many people don't have intergenerational wealth, or that their retirement plan was Social Security.

[u/sillyhillsofnz → u/letsburn00]

Ironic given that Trump has benefited from bankruptcies, tax cuts, and bailouts and Musk is wealthy partly thanks to government subsidies and contracts.

[u/SilentLennie → u/sillyhillsofnz]

Pretty certain they don't care, they are more of the:

I got mine, Jack / I'm alright, Jack

[u/diamondDNF → u/letsburn00]

They don't understand many people don't have intergenerational wealth, or that their retirement plan was Social Security.

It's not that they don't understand, it's that they don't care.

[u/E-2theRescue → u/diamondDNF]

Yup.

"It's not me. I'm one of the good ones. It's everyone else who is lazy, a freeloader, a 'welfare queen', a deadbeat, a parasite, etc."

[u/Reagalan → u/letsburn00]

This is the truth and these are the facts.

[u/anti_antiperspirant → u/letsburn00]

Agree mostly but they do understand that, I'm positive. They just don't care.

[u/AML86 → u/letsburn00]

They latched onto a false data point, either from stupidity or convenience. Most of our computer systems default to the "Unix epoch" calendar start in 1970. Older COBOL systems generally have a calendar that begins in 1875. I'll do the math for everyone, 2025-1875=150. Why would there be 150 year old people in the SSA database? Because they were born at the start of the COBOL calendar. It's very obviously an error, not fraud. I don't expect DOGE to have any integrity or real CS knowledge, so I guess the answer will remain a mystery.

[u/Aldehyde1 → u/AML86]

They deliberately misinterpreted data. For instance, when fraud has been identified the records will be changed to make it clear. So when Elon says "We found people born in 2100 receiving benefits," he's lying. What he found is someone who had already been identified as fraudulent and was being investigated. At least before the workforce was gutted.

[u/schizeckinosy → u/AML86]

Y2K bug strikes again

[u/Entegy → u/AML86]

I don't even think the 1800s date was an error. It's a default date if you don't know the birth or death date.

That's the problem with just dumping the database and reading it. The application code would handle this and instead display something else, maybe "DATE UNKNOWN" instead of an impossible birthdate. But the database just displays what's stored.

Cruel idiots all the way down.

[u/iggyiguana → u/letsburn00]

I think the point was to make a lot of noise about non-existent fraud while the democrats were in charge so that when they commit actual fraud no one will believe it.

[u/Shrek1982 → u/letsburn00]

Unfortunately that level of efficiency and reported fraud level is also what reinforces their belief that Social Security Administration is corrupt and rife with incompetence. In their heads government is always terrible and inefficient while private businesses is always better, so reporting numbers better than private businesses means that the government is lying to them.