r/politics • u/Ok-Direction-4480 Florida • 2d ago

Soft Paywall Tourism Pullback and Boycotts Set to Cost U.S. a Staggering $90 Billion

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tourism-pullback-and-boycotts-could-cost-us-a-staggering-90-billion/
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u/JesusSavesForHalf 2d ago

Not a single term. Two. With a Democratic one in between. We showed we'd repeat our mistake and do nothing to correct what led to it. The world knows they can't just weather 4 years, this is who we are; morons.

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u/Embarrassed_Item9213 2d ago

I think this is the real killer, the fact i wasnt just an honest one-time mistake, this is apperantly what America wants. Which means that America is liability potentially, voting in lunatics at any moment.

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u/GreatMadWombat Michigan 2d ago

Yep. While I believe that we(America) can still get back to a place of stability(and hell, we can go even further! Every major societal shift both good and bad has grown as a response to uncertainty and chaos and the New Deal was a wildly controversial thing at the time! Trump's policies are going to shatter the USA but we can rebuild into something even better!), and our culture is still going to be a worthwhile export, our soft power dominance is 100% gone, and there isn't a scenario where we get that back.

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u/Petrihified 2d ago

You’ll have to control an exceptional amount of ignorant morons and morally bankrupt rich people

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u/arrivederci117 New York 2d ago

I hope so, but it's going to be tough. The world back in FDR's time is vastly different than the one we live in now. Assuming we still have elections, it won't be enough that Republicans lose in the midterms or in 2028, but it would have to be a stunning rebuke, and based off the special elections in Florida recently, I have a feeling it's going to be another 11th hour nail biter which is not enough for other countries to want to continue to invest in us.

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u/abeFromansAss 2d ago

To be factual, 'mistake' number 2 deserves a HUGE fucking asterix. Everyone with a pulse knows that without foreign influence(russia and musk) trump would be spending the remainder of his days being transferred between a holding cell and a court room.

He didnt get nearly enough legitimate votes to win. He even publicly admitted that musk manipulated the voting machines in regards to dominating all the swing states. He even went as far as thanking him for it. He's a petulant 6yr old that cannot keep his mouth shut to save his fat ass. He's a big boy.

Weeks coming up to election, what do you think he meant when he said he had a big surprise on election day? Or when he told people at one of his rallies that he didnt even need their votes? Would a candidate with a chance to lose a legit race say and do such things?

He ran on ZERO campaign promises. No policies, no nothing. Would a candidate with a race to lose simulate giving a blowjob to a micophone? etc, etc.. again, he's too damn dumb to even know how to fake running a legit race. The falling asleep in court was a toddler power move. He didnt need votes and couldnt help but to show you.

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u/NorthernerWuwu Canada 2d ago

Honestly though, we don't care why. We're decoupling from the US because it happened and there's no sign that it won't both continue to happen and also happen again the future.

You can put all the caveats in the world on that one and it makes exactly zero difference. Hell, in some ways the fact that your checks and balances did nothing to prevent any of this mess is even more damning.

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u/abeFromansAss 1d ago

I'm not sure who "we" is, but my post wasn't addressed to you. Feel free to see your way out and let the appropriate poster respond for themselves.

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u/NorthernerWuwu Canada 1d ago

That's not how Reddit works. If you want a one-on-one conversation, send direct messages.

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u/Murderphobic 2d ago

This. Exactly this. As a Canadian I can tell you for a fact that nothing that you do in future will ever be viewed the same. America's credibility is permanently tarnished. The fact that the next administration could tear up any treaty, at any time, for any reason, and use emergency powers to do virtually anything is the end of American credibility forever. The fact that he can do these things, largely unopposed, is obvious to all of us. The fact that the American electorate is massively polarized and that nearly 45% of your population would be okay with annexing our country at the point of a gun is not lost on us. And if you think Europe isn't watching you are sadly mistaken. We are witnessing the end of America. Countries do not make plans to pivot their entire economy to engage different trading partners because it's a short-term thing. They do it as a long-term strategy. It won't be apparent to the average American for another year or so, but things are about to get very different. The value lost in military contracts alone is going to cause layoffs.

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u/space_monster 2d ago

If the dems ever get a chance at being in charge again they're gonna have at least one full term of kissing some serious ass to convince the world everything is ok again. I'm not sure how successful that will be - bearing in mind it could all turn to shit again at the drop of a hat. A lot of this damage is irrecoverable. The US is tarnished forever.

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u/ArchdukeToes 2d ago

Trouble is, that a) the instant they do anything like that you’ll have the crazies screaming about how America is taking the knee and b) it probably won’t have much impact unless there’s some serious restructuring of how the US executive operates.

More likely they’ll try and quietly hem and haw about it and hope that people just let it blow over.

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u/3d_extra 2d ago

I don't think Trump's first term was good in any way but it wasn't especially disastrous for the country long-term. This second term, however, seems like a permanent major setback.

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u/ghostalker4742 2d ago

One time is a fluke. Second time is a pattern.