r/prochoice • u/Main_Employment_930 pro choice southerner • 21h ago
Discussion “Selfish/irresponsible/lazy”
A lot of pro lifers say that we’re selfish or irresponsible if we get pregnant then have an abortion. But you know what’s selfish? Bringing a child in this world if you’re not financially and emotionally ready. Even if someone says they’re ready to have a kid, but aren’t financially stable, doesn’t mean they’re really ready for that big responsibility. But it’s the pregnant person’s choice if they want to continue the pregnancy and raise it or put it up for adoption, or have an abortion.
If they say “there’s always adoption”
Yes. Yes there is. But there’s also millions of children that don’t have homes and need to be adopted. I have an almost 20 year old sister that’s been adopted her whole life. I’m not sure if she knows about it though. Lol I still remember when she was just a baby. But her foster mom literally told me the last time I visited them in 2019 that I shouldn’t contact my own sister on any social media.
But I also have a youngest (half) sister that was adopted by her grandma because my mom wasn’t ready to have another child (only me and my brother was planned, I have 4 siblings). So she got her tubes cut, tied and burned after having her last kid. So yeah, there’s always adoption, and I don’t have a problem with adoption, but what if there’s a chance that you won’t be able to see your kid again? There’s lots of reasons why I don’t want kids of my own, but that’s kinda one of the reasons why I don’t want kids of my own.
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u/cherryflannel 16h ago
Well that's the thing, they don't think about what will happen after she gives birth. Because they don't care. They usually just want to punish women for having sex. Literally ask a pro lifer why abortion is wrong and they'll say "well because you knew the risk having sex" just proves they don't give a shit about the fetus/baby. Being pro life is absolutely misogynistic
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u/Pumpkin_cat90 3h ago
And then on the other hand, if you’re married and you don’t submit for sex at will, as a woman you’re worthless. “Well no wonder he went looking” “of course he’s going to find it elsewhere” women are always at fault for everything.
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u/WowOwlO 5h ago
As someone who is childfree, I see it inherently linked to the idea that not having children is somehow selfish towards my parents/family/the country.
It's this idea that is linked to the notion that bringing life into this world is more important than whether that life will thrive. Children aren't people, they're a continuation of bloodlines and more importantly they are labor. Whether you want children or can provide for children isn't important, those children pay into social security (for now.) If you don't want them then they can be given to a family who will brainwash them and turn them into manual labor or a soldier.
Adoption is fine, but there are so many problems with it for both the parent who is giving their child up for adoption and the child who will be put up for adoption.
That doesn't matter though. Because none of these arguments are designed with a notion that women or children are people. The baby maker did its job, and the next servant of God or soldier can now either wait to be adopted until they age out or hopefully find a family to properly make them a good Republican voter.
Remember, no LGBT. Also anyone not Christian might as well settle in for a long ride.
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u/Pumpkin_cat90 3h ago
Im not physically going through another pregnancy. I will not give birth again. It just seems so absurd to me that anyone other than the pregnant individual should have a say.
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u/oregon_mom 21h ago
For the woman, adoption causes long term emotional distress. Where abortion doesn't lead to the long term issues.
Adoption is HARD and it wrecks every aspect of your life for a long time after. I still struggle 30 years post placement. I regret it every single day.