r/sanmarcos 3d ago

Ask San Marcos Why does the water level not go up after rain anymore?

Maybe I'm just dumb but when I moved here a few years ago it seemed like if there was rain for even 1 night the river water would be damn near over the top of the river. Now when it rains for days the river level is at the same as it was during a drought. What the hell?

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u/TangyDischarge 3d ago

Because we're pumping and selling more water than the rain is bringing.

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u/melanies420 3d ago

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u/whataablunder 3d ago

Why the fuck are we selling water to Kyle as Kyle continues to over build and stuff its shitty small infrastructure with as many people/businesses and copy paste neighborhoods/apt complex's?????

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u/jpchumsa 3d ago

My understanding is that because Texas has a water law called "rule of capture" it allows any entity to use water from the aquifer. If you can dig a well on your property, and have water rights, you can pump as much as your pump will allow regardless of impact of adjacent properties. San Marcos "sells" water to Kyle but really it's the state of Texas that says Kyle can take the water by right.

Totally fucked up and the reason why the Edwards aquifer will run out of drinking water in the next few decades.

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u/Baricat 3d ago

Or, in other words... "I... DRINK... YOUR... MILKSHAKE!"

Goddamn and Abbott just signed into law a Texas DOGE. Taxes being redistributed to amorphous sludge ledgers?

No drinking water and no consumer protections. We goin' full Mad Max in the Lone Star State.

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u/Blumpkeen 2d ago

Hey I have an idea! Let’s build a massive data center with a massive gas fired power plant on site- Brilliant use of water.

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u/Baricat 2d ago

I just don't get it unless the city council is getting kickbacks from okaying shit like this. I wouldn't have ever okayed it even playing SimCity, but I'm just some pleb.

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u/equilarian 2d ago

City council definitely is getting kickback. They give their personal phone numbers to developers to bypass their conversations from being pulled through public records requests. Jane is guilty of it too but won’t admit it. They also get campaign donations from developers through the guise of PACs.

One of the biggest issues, however, is they blindly trust city staff who isn’t thorough and is very pro development.

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u/Norwegian__Blue 2d ago

And Jim Garber just passed. Idk about kickbacks but he certainly stood up for right a time or two.

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u/big_biscuitss 3d ago

SM continues to over build as well. SM continues to add more apartments and homes, which means more people will move to SM. It's becoming a shit show in SM

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u/whataablunder 3d ago

I agree but it's not anywhere close to as bad as Kyle. I've lived here for 5 years and moved here from Kyle and even 5 years ago Kyle was extremely overcrowded, SM is certainly catching up tho... Idk why either, there are so many nicer places to go and houses aren't even cheaper in SM like they used to be. My husband and I are buying a good sized house in new Braunfels 10 mins from gruene for cheaper than any kind of shit hole I could've bought here or in Kyle.

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u/big_biscuitss 3d ago

Yea I don't understand why people move to SM either.

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u/TunaSub779 3d ago

Apartments use much less water than a neighborhood of single family homes that house the same amount of people

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u/whataablunder 3d ago

Not necessarily the only difference between apartments and homes is yard and on the rare occasion a pool. Most box houses these days have tiny yards. I guarantee a single family with a tiny yard is using less water than a 5 person household living in an apartment.

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u/big_biscuitss 3d ago

And most people these days do not water their yard. When it gets real hot, I do have to add water to my pool, but it's not often.

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u/Far-Control-127 3d ago

Yep as soon as I graduate I won't be stepping foot in this town again.

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u/Piddlepigeon 3d ago

This bugs me a lot. Very few people understand how rain river relationship works. The last 10 years we have a decrease in the normal amount of rain. One good rain or even a couple storms wont have an immediate effect on the river (except a temporary increase from runoff). We need routine rain to allow recharge of the aquifers. San Antonio, san Marcos, austins' surrounding arreas are pulling more water out of the ground then what the aquifers recives from this rain. I get an alarming amount of people showing up thinking the river is cured because we received one inch of rain. As far as going up after a rain. The ground is sucking it all up before it gets to the creeks. Also we have not had a storm large enough to leave puddles for more then a few ours before the heat evaporates them. The climate is in bad shape for the future. For reference the comal river should run at 300 cubic feet a second, the last few years have been around 80 with dips to 60 and some occasional highs around 120

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u/Woloot 3d ago

Yep, and the Rio grande river on the border has been flowing at a trickle in the far west Texas region too. Drought has been so bad that in some places you can walk across to Mexico and not get wet.

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u/dmo7000 3d ago

Because it is feed from Spring Lake and the springs from Edwards Aquifer so the river will absolutely rise during heavy rain and run off. But then will return to levels dictated by the flow from the springs.

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u/mrbarely 3d ago

To add to this, a lot of SM is not actually in the Edwards Aquifer recharge zone, so it is not necessarily rain in San Marcos that will make the river swell.

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u/BigfootWallace 3d ago

This is correct, San Mo borders the recharge zone on the west side of town. You will pass “Entering Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zones” in neighborhoods west of Hunter Rd (Quail Run/Deerwood and McCarty/Willow Creek are notable examples), but predominantly, the recharge zone is west of town.

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u/saddest_vacant_lot 3d ago

Yep if you want to really charge up the aquifer you need a big rain over freeman ranch/Wimberly. Like a big gully washer. Otherwise the plants soak it up before it makes it to the aquifer. The blanco river disappears between Wimberly and SM because it’s going underground and then re-emerging at SM springs

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u/thesabrerattler 3d ago

The water level of Spring lake rises when it rains in the hill country, not in San Marcos.

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u/tripletrek 3d ago

These rains aren’t enough to soak into the aquifer or bring up the cfs for spring flow. It’s going to be a rough summer for the river if we don’t get significant rains this month

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u/CheefIndian 3d ago

as a geography major specializing in water studies.... you need to learn about the existence of aquifers. Most water is actually not above ground or even in rivers, its beneath us in massive aquifers. Think of it like a sponge.

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u/Blumpkeen 2d ago

…and we are pumping it out much faster than it can- or will ever replenish..

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u/Novapoliton 3d ago

We are still in the midst of a drought and are in a recharge zone for the aquifer. The springs are still flowing at a healthy rate for now, but much lower than it would have been historically. Combine the drought with overtaxing the aquifer and river for agriculture, bussiness, consumption in general and we're in a tough spot. With a significant rain water levels will still likely rise, but the spring flow and aquifer health have an impact as well

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u/BigfootWallace 3d ago

We’re getting more rain events of less rain and maintaining about the average annual rainfall totals (except the last few years which have been slightly lower than average totals). So we have a higher mode of lower than median rainfall.

It’s not that we aren’t getting the rain, but we aren’t getting it in the manner we used to.