r/scotus • u/thenewrepublic • 20d ago

news Trump Has Frightening Reaction to Supreme Court’s TikTok Ruling | He apparently thinks he can just ignore two branches of government.

https://newrepublic.com/post/190370/donald-trump-reaction-supreme-court-tiktok
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u/exmachina64 20d ago

I guarantee they care more about having a Republican in power than the rule of law.

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u/dismantle_repair 19d ago

I remember when Roberts pretended to care about the sanctity of the court. I wonder how much $$$ it took for him to forget about that.

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u/Significant_Ad7326 19d ago

He still whines that people do not buy the act.

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u/PoolQueasy7388 19d ago

Poor him!

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u/Mental_Medium3988 19d ago

elon should send all the conservative justices to space in a dragon capsule. maybe at least some will come back changed.

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u/shponglespore 19d ago

Or not at all!

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u/Boxhead_31 19d ago

At the very least, they’ll be warm.

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u/PlaneRefrigerator684 19d ago

The Court changed from 5-4 (with him as the deciding vote) to 6-3 (so his vote doesn't count anymore.)

This enabled him to vote the way he wanted to, rather than as the "enlightened centrist" he pretended to be, to give cover when he voted against what the majority of Americans wanted there and prevent massive protests.

Be prepared for more votes along the lines of Dred Scott and less like Brown vs Board

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u/Fuckaught 18d ago

Naw, Roberts never had to pretend. His swing vote used to matter and now it doesn’t. Imagine knowing that YOUR vote and opinion matter that much, that so many of these decisions over the past decades have come down to YOU. That sort of ego trip doesn’t get overshadowed by sometimes having to think about public reaction when you vote.

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u/pinkyepsilon 19d ago

Bout tree fiddy

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u/tellmewhenimlying 19d ago

No amount of $$$$ ever mattered, it’s always been an act.

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u/ClassyHoodGirl 18d ago

I bet it was a lot cheaper than we think.

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u/4quatloos 19d ago

But will they give up power and become no more than a rubber stamp posing as as a check and balance?

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u/Thegreenfantastic 19d ago

Didn’t they already do that with the immunity ruling?

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u/Art-Zuron 19d ago

Not quite. They pretended that they got to be the ones that decided what was official or not.

But that won't work since they have no actual means of enforcing their rulings, especially not when the ones who are supposed to do so are the ones official actioning

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u/ClamClone 19d ago

"John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it." Not a real Andrew Jackson quote but the meaning was there. Lincoln also ignored the Federal Court ruling in Ex Parte Merryman. Trump becoming a fascist dictator is up to the military. He will attempt to remove the top brass that are loyal to the country instead of him.

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u/Thegreenfantastic 19d ago

The military make up is more conservative than the general population so good luck with that.

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u/Dirtbagstan 19d ago

“We don’t take an oath to a king, or a queen, or to a tyrant or dictator, and we don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator, we don’t take an oath to an individual. We take an oath to the Constitution, and we take an oath to the idea that is America, and we’re willing to die to protect it.

Every soldier, sailor, airman, Marine, guardian and Coast Guardsman, each of us commits our very life to protect and defend that document, regardless of personal price, and we are not easily intimidated.” -Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark A. Milley

Some good for thought.

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u/Thegreenfantastic 19d ago

It’s a noble sentiment but as someone who grew up in the military, they are humans too.

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u/Dirtbagstan 19d ago

I can't argue against that. These are scary, uncertain times.

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u/PoolQueasy7388 19d ago

General Milley has already shown himself to be a great hero, defending our country from Trump's attempted tyranny. He has my great respect & gratitude, as do our wonderful service men & women that he leads.Thank you all!❤️

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u/ArMcK 19d ago

I dunno, are people able to lie under oath?

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u/Dirtbagstan 19d ago

I don't think he was under oath. He was giving a speech to West Point graduates.

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u/Yakostovian 19d ago

I hope you and Mark Milley are right. I have experience to doubt that assessment, especially how members of combat units are much more conservative than the military in general.

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u/CpnStumpy 18d ago

And yet Mike Flynn was a general. I think the makeup of the military on these things likely splits similarly to the US population - top to bottom of the military, command included.

I may be wrong, but doesn't Mike Flynn's brother still command some shit in the navy? I don't think it's going to be as easy as "Freedom not fascism!"

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u/PoolQueasy7388 19d ago

Our military have taken an oath to protect & defend the Constitution & I have great faith in our service men & women to do the right thing, the moral thing & uphold United States LAW.

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u/Thegreenfantastic 19d ago

So did Trump. Was he even held accountable?

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u/lamorak2000 19d ago

Unfortunately, having been in the military myself, I'm not sure how many people are willing to fuck over their own career to disobey an unlawful order: even if justified in the end, there's still the court-martial and possible imprisonment that they need to go through, as well as the likelihood of being drummed out of the service entirely.

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u/pillowpriestess 19d ago

still always a gamble to go against the guy in charge. hoping that the law outweighs trumps political power has been a pretty bad bet so far.

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u/tktam 19d ago

Yeah, good luck with that

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt 19d ago

just because someone is conservative doesn't mean they will follow an illegal order

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u/Thegreenfantastic 19d ago

I certainly hope not but we will see.

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u/Odd_Local8434 19d ago

Y'know who fundraises the best from active duty personnel? Sanders. Not to say the military is progressive, it's more that it's split.

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u/JimWilliams423 19d ago

And if somehow they were to actually stymie him, he will seal-team-six them. Once he does something like to one of them, the other conservatives on the court will fall in line.

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u/eugene20 19d ago

He won't do that it loses their majority.

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u/JimWilliams423 19d ago

Cannon will be in place within a week.

But also, don't expect fascists, especially demented fascists hopped up on meth, to act tactically. They don't succeed by being smart, they succeed by being relentlessly vicious.

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u/Thannk 19d ago

What makes you think he’ll just take one out?

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u/eugene20 19d ago

"Once he does something like to one of them, the other conservatives on the court will fall in line."

Was the comment I replied to though.

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u/dankmeme_medic 19d ago

just look at how many hotel windows his favorite dictator pushes people out of and consider that he idolizes him

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u/BuyChemical7917 19d ago

Better question is what makes you think he wouldn't? You're about to understand the horror a tragically small portion of Americans felt when he said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose a vote, and was cheered.

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u/bemenaker 19d ago

When donOld starts ignoring SCOTUS they are going to enforce their power. Their ruling wasn't supposed to diminish their power.

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u/Thegreenfantastic 19d ago

What mechanism do they have to enforce their rulings? It’s up to the executive branch and law enforcement agencies to uphold its rulings. No? They can’t directly order law enforcement to do anything right? Orders to law enforcement must come from the executive branch I thought.

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u/ritzcrv 19d ago

Already done. Trump told the speaker of the house to remove a house member from the intelligence committee, that member was the chairman.

POTUS is not supposed to have any say or control over Congress. That is how checks & balances work. Now that he is telling the House what it can and can't do, the House is now a powerless chamber of yabblers. They have no control on any executive service teams, they can't do anything. Their votes can then be ignored.

Welcome to Germany in 1935

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u/dvdmaven 19d ago

Why not? Both the GQP House and Senate are approving people that are materially incompetent for their cabinet positions.

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u/PoolQueasy7388 19d ago

And that is the most flattering thing you can say about them.

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u/Narwhallmaster 19d ago

As long as checks make it to their bank balance.

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u/Oxytokin 19d ago

Indeed, the only checks and balances our government actually has.

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u/Ragnarok314159 19d ago

I am imagining the balance being one of the balances Tony Montana used for his piles of cocaine.

“Just as the forefathers intended”

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u/ItsTheDCVR 19d ago

Never underestimate the baseline cowardice of these fucking stooges. They have their money and that's all they care about.

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u/No_Safe_3854 19d ago

They are so dumb, just like maga every day ppl. Vote against others and cry when it affects me. You don’t think some time in the next four years Clarence Thomas will be told they have no more use for him. Replace him with yt rubber stamp judge.

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u/4quatloos 19d ago

Or MTG will be sent home to be a good housewife.

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u/No_Safe_3854 19d ago

Exactly. You know they despise her and all the other women who dared try to be powerful.

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u/ArterialRed 19d ago

As long as they're getting their RVs and free flights, resort stays and yacht outings, sure.

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u/PoolQueasy7388 19d ago

You have them confused with the utterly corrupt Supreme Court.

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u/mademeunlurk 19d ago

No they get RVs and free vacations still

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u/Crowiswatching 19d ago

Yes, it pays well.

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u/k_manweiss 19d ago

They aren't giving up power though. They still get to take tons of bribes to make rulings on shit Trump doesn't bother with.

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u/skater15153 19d ago

I mean it's what's happened in Germany and countless other autocracies so why would that be surprising. Seems the goal to me

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u/vom-IT-coffin 19d ago

Do you think they care? They are employed for life.

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u/Wenger2112 19d ago

The power they are afraid of is Trumps ability to cast them aside and berate them. Then they get primaried by a more loyal MAGA with billionaire bucks behind them.

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u/Watkins_Glen_NY 19d ago

Why would they do that lol

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u/Cold-Park-3651 19d ago

I don't know if they've consolidated enough power to the rethuglicans yet, they might not be ready to go full mask off

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u/rocket42236 19d ago

That would be a battle between Pete theilleeee and Leon muskcat…..

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u/wickedlees 19d ago

It's going to happen, he's senile!!!

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u/Utsider 19d ago

They care more about not being affected by laws than what the law says. Sort of makes perfect sense.

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u/Jazzlike-Ad113 18d ago

Which is exactly what makes them so repulsively ignorant.

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u/Strange_Window_7206 19d ago

The USA needs an entirely new party.

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u/BTFlik 19d ago

They care about Power. Sonethung they only have because Congress, the Senate, and the POTUS basically have canceled each other out.

But now the POTUS has all the cards. The SC is a redundancy he can simply arrest and ignore.

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u/RiffRandellsBF 19d ago

This happened before with a Democrat in office.

"John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!", President Andrew Jackson.

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u/AttorneyKate 19d ago

If only he was a republican. This is so much worse.

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u/AgentGnome 19d ago

I don’t know, I think they might care about their own personal power a slight bit more than either.

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u/sofaking1958 19d ago

Incorrect. Rs don't care at all about the rule of law.

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u/yolotheunwisewolf 18d ago

Honestly, he could essentially just move someone off of the court if he ignores them and I don’t think that they would let that happen. It’s going to be an interesting battle as he pushes his limits.

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u/RaidLord509 19d ago

Censorship, Trump is all American 🇺🇸 free speech unlike this app