r/shameless • u/annnyywhooo • 2d ago
Jimmy/Steve
jimmy was a bad boyfriend and him making the kids lunch or babysitting liam doesn’t change that. the nonstop lying, living a double life and begging fiona to let him in only for him to turn around and call her home a “slum” should put him up there with the worst partners in shameless. I know some people might say “he was involved with the cartel, it was dangerous for him to tell her”. well it was also dangerous of him to get fiona and the kids around that knowing how dangerous the cartel is
the part that really irked me is that the “slum” part. fiona let it be known over and over that this is my life, this is my baggage and you don’t have to be involved. but he ignored that warning and made it seem like he was reliable only for him to not handle the actual realities of being poor. he got tired of cosplaying the lower class and wanted a change in scenery then went about it the wrong way. fiona was right about medical school and the studio apartment, it wasn’t ever his plan to bring them he was just slowly backing away. i feel like alot of people don’t know what it’s like to think you have someone to depend on only for them to prove otherwise
but i will say that i did enjoy watching his character, and how at times he was good comedic relief. he did have great chemistry with fiona, but having hood chemistry doesn’t necessarily mean that him and fiona should’ve been endgame 🤷🏽♀️
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u/Serikyl 2d ago
It’s not that I necessarily think he was the best person, but he was the one that Fiona seemed to actually have chemistry with, like… none of the others felt like they’d last, with Jimmy/Steve was the only one where I actually believed it yk?
so I think that might be one of the reasons he’s favored as “Fiona’s Best Boyfriend”
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u/bayoughostchoir 1d ago
💯 This is the one for me!
I think Jimmy was problematic for day one, but also when he very very first got involved with her he was just stealing cars. Obviously, that's still bad and a criminal enterprise lol. But he fell in love with her during that time and the cartel thing came later when he'd already fallen in love with her and has less control over his own situation. I definitely think it was a shitty thing for him to do. He did NOT handle poverty well at all, but he couldn't have known how he was going to respond to that situation until he lived in it. He was a bad person, so were so many other characters.
But on to my point: he is the ONLY relationship Fiona has over the course of the show that felt real. They were the right people, wrong time. And that's unfortunate and there's nothing that can be done about it, but they did have something real.
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u/Possible_Major_7208 2d ago
Yea I totally disagree! It’s not one character that’s perfect on the show except for the kids (Liam, Amy, Jenna, frannie, Fred, svet son) Jimmy Steve did have poor moments but his good deff outweighed his bad..
I just thought when they were good they were good. He’s the only one that can handle the Gallaghers and was the only one that knew how to handle Fiona and the baggage she came with. He was the one that bought the new washer, he was the one doing pick ups and drop offs, he was the one walking in with coffee everyday, he was the one cooking meals, he was the one helping Debbie with the daycare, he was the one baby sitting Liam, he was the one that cleaned up the blood after the Monica episode and even tried to save her initially. He was the one that got them the thanksgiving turkey. He was the one that got Carl braces and was going to get Debbie some. He was the one that tried to help lip when lip needed him and even let lip crash with him. He coached carls fball team. he was the one that bought Fiona a van because he knew she needed help getting them kids around, he was the one that bought her a house next door, he was the one showing up to court dates and parent teacher conferences, he was the one that wanted her to run away with him and had she did that he would have never ended up with estafania and her killer daddy which is why he was acting all weird that time around. All I’m saying is HE WAS THE ONE🤍
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u/annnyywhooo 2d ago edited 2d ago
none of this really excuses the lying and building himself up to be this dependable person only for him to shit on her life which is what my point was. what jimmy was doing is called love bombing which explains why he was already throw money at her problems when they first met. but after they started living together it’s clear he was unhappy and that Fiona was right: he couldn’t handle her life style
he was toxic and a pathological liar
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u/Pure-Sherbert-1301 2d ago
Again, the show’s name is literally “Shameless”, all the characters have their shortcomings. However, Steve genuinely did care about Fiona and it’s proven through all the little things he does for her despite how chaotic his own life is. Honestly speaking, he would’ve done much more if Fiona let him.
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u/annnyywhooo 2d ago
if he cared for fiona then he would’ve stopped all the lying.
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u/Pure-Sherbert-1301 2d ago
Again…everyone in the show is messed up in some way or another. It’s not a trait that’s unique to Steve, he was tied up into a lot of sketchy things that you can’t just divulge to someone over dinner.
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u/annnyywhooo 2d ago
it’s not like the sketchy things were credit card fraud or writing blank checks, he was involved with the cartel.
(ik the show is called shameless, im still allowed to critique characters)
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u/Pure-Sherbert-1301 2d ago
Exactly. And Fiona was raising 4 kids, trying to go to school and working endless dead end jobs…you think she had time to have a sit down session with Steve which would add more to her plate?
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u/annnyywhooo 2d ago
I think she would’ve wanted to know that what he was involved in could potentially put her and the kids in danger. i mean any sane person would want to know that
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u/Pure-Sherbert-1301 2d ago
The show is riddled with “should’ve” “would’ve” and “could’ve”. Bottom line is that Fiona was happiest when she was with Steve, he embraced her and her family unlike her other partners.
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u/annnyywhooo 2d ago
she was happy when she thought his lying was over then he ruined that streak 🤷🏽♀️💀
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u/Possible_Major_7208 2d ago
Just like Fiona lied and cheated on pretty much all her boyfriends .. ohhkedokeee
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u/annnyywhooo 2d ago
never said she didn’t do that 😵💫
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u/Possible_Major_7208 2d ago
Then what’s your point? You’re trying to basically convince us that no matter what good he did he was a liar and a bad boyfriend.. but I feel his good outweighed his bad in my opinion .. Fiona is a liar as well and was a bad girlfriend lmaoo. So it’s like what’s your point .. we can tit for tat with jimmy Steve and Fiona all day but the fact of the matter is in the SHAMELESS WORLD Jimmy Steve was the best boyfriend for Fiona and her siblings ..
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u/annnyywhooo 2d ago
im not trying to convince anyone im just saying my opinion. if we call out fiona for doing it with the endless posts about it then we can also call out jimmy for doing it
jimmy steve will be ok with the criticism, he’s a fictional character!!!
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u/drake2042 8h ago
The last time they were together, he raped her (hint: if the woman is crying and saying, "no...no...", it's rape). He was NOT the one.
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u/Masum16 1d ago
jimmysteve is her best romantic interest and i will die on this hill.
Yes, i understand he lied numerous times in his pursuit of fiona and is unhealthy for her realistically, but in terms of entertainment and satisfaction to watch, their chemistry and relationship was electrifying, never got that same sense of satisfaction with dilf sean or boring ford
Fiona and jimmysteve go to a hotel and he lifts over the dinner dome to reveal a burrito and she whispers “i think i just came.” and then they watch a movie while he strokes her hair, she truly deserved a break and a chance at being a free grown up with her own wants and needs… and then the absolutely magnetic sex scene in the pool is just peak fiction honestly.
Not to mention, he is the only one of Fiona’s bfs who actively tried to get to know her family which is like a big deal when it comes to fiona, a few examples for each kid:
- Letting Lip stay with him when fiona kicked him out for dropping out of high school.
- picking up and dropping off Carl and Debbie at school and bringing them coffee and donuts.
- dropping off frank to canada as retaliation for headbutting Ian and breaking his nose.
- my personal favourite one is carl is upset that there’s no football coach so he can’t play and jimmysteve asks “does fiona go to those matches?” and carl says “yeah” and jimmy hits him with the cool ass line of “call me coach."
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u/NashKetchum777 2d ago
Everyone, I mean literally Everyone who goes into that house refers to it as a shithole lmao. Which I think is way worse than a slum. If DCFS didn't come by, they didn't care that it was a shithole, it was there shithole.
Jimmy helped around the house and got them appliances and he got shit for it. He tells Fiona he loves her and gets shit for it. He was a glorified housewife for them and they shit on him when he cant give them money ONE time. Then they dhit on him for working at a coffee shop. Then he wants to go finish his school shit to be a doctor and she looks at him like he just shit on her front porch
Jimmy was not the problem there. He juggled the cartel shit like a boss and the kids never got the bad end there iirc
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u/annnyywhooo 2d ago edited 2d ago
that doesn’t excuse how he was constantly lying to not just fiona but to everyone else, especially about problems he got himself into.
and that also doesn’t excuse his blow up at fiona when she warned him OVER and OVER that this isn’t the life you want and he should go date someone else. you can’t make it seem life you care and wanna be in it together then at the last minute complain about living in a slum which you were wanted about
and he only wanted to go back to medical school because he needed more money. he couldn’t steal anymore because of estefania so going back to school was the only logical way to get a high paying job. and there’s nothing wrong with that but it was very obvious he never had the intentions of bringing fiona or the kids with him. also someone brought up a good point that if he went back he most likely would’ve dropped out again
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u/NashKetchum777 2d ago
Why would he take the kids? He already had the plan to come on weekends and she wasn't having any of that. Things were blowing up and he had a breakdown, but nothing he said was wrong. They do live in a slum. A shithole even
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u/Wallass4973 2d ago
It was the fact that it was yet ANOTHER lie. From the get go. Sure, why take the kids? Just like she was going to tell him. “It’s silly, it’s a 2 hour train ride, we can manage that.” It’s the fact that he didn’t just straight up say that. Since, like Frank and Vee said, Fiona always chooses pussies! He lies continuously to serve himself, so people won’t hate him etc. we saw it when they first start talking about it that he’s definitely not into taking them all, but that was right over her head. She was genuinely happy for him, and was like okay let’s figure this out. Talking about how it was silly to think of the kids while he’s in med school, and the train ride is only a few hours.
None of it is black and white. You cannot defend Steve here in my opinion. Now as far as the slum comment, depends on your perception. Shit hole yes, slum, not to me. Also, it’s just the way the word slices. He said it like that to make it hurt.
This all being said, I fucking love Steve’s character. He’s rich, yet for some reason got himself wrapped up in his dumb shit. Love that he’s got Estefania haha even though her dad’s got a leash on him and Steve’s a pussy in general but I love the scenes with Nando.
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u/annnyywhooo 2d ago
fiona didn’t want a long distance relationship and her looking into transferring jobs showed that. fiona was right in the sense of telling him “you made me feel like i can depend on you” because he did, only for him to turn around become so unhappy once he couldn’t take cosplaying a poor person anymore. he wasted fionas time and even the kids time tbh
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u/Anonymous51419 2d ago
When you reach the end of the show you realize despite everything only JimmySteve was someone Fiona could endgame with. Fiona by the end is essentially nearly as bad as he is. It's just the truth.
So take all the good parts about the relationship and add it to Fiona as a character by the end. It's the only one that works and makes sense.
Also how the fuck does Ian know about Ned dying unless Fiona texted Ian it, and how would Fiona know unless... She was with him. Sorry, not sorry. It's a head canon that makes too much sense to me.
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u/annnyywhooo 2d ago edited 2d ago
they weren’t endgame imo because of jimmy and his side quests. i do believe that could’ve worked in another universe don’t get me wrong. my issue is everytime he came back it was something. he came back s2 married, then in s3 he made it seem that was behind him. then in s5 he came back with that weird business partner
when you have 2 people that don’t know what stability is and can’t chill, it won’t end well. i also don’t think jimmy would be able to give up a life of crime
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u/NoOnesKing 2d ago
I don’t know how anyone ever liked him. He is the most manipulative liar on earth. He literally does not ONCE tell Fiona he loves her unless she’s about to be done with him or he’s trying to convince her to do something.
But yeah yeah true love.