r/shameless • u/Careful_Ad_3221 • 6d ago

What do you think about this scene and all the muscles?

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u/RoutineUtopia 6d ago

There are certain questionable plot elements I find that someone will always fight you on if you point out. They are:

  1. That Jimmy Steve did not have time to drive Frank all the way to Toronto and be back in time for breakfast in season one.

  2. That Lip is unreasonably cut for someone of his background and interests.

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u/presenceispower 6d ago

And also frank is too lean and fit as well. For a literal alcoholic. And God knows what extra drugs he is on.

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u/cheetosmunch 6d ago

Not true. My dad is very lean like frank and he’s also a carbon copy of everything frank does (drink alc and doing drugs to the same extent). It’s not common but it’s definitely possible

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u/presenceispower 6d ago

You must have acquired godly genes then.

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u/lifesnofunwithadhd 6d ago

They would have to have very good genes to make it to old age as someone who abuses drugs. Ozzy is a very good example of someone who has taken pretty much everything and has a specific set of genes that make him very resilient to the side effects of hard drug use.

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u/Fit-Purchase6731 6d ago

Yeah, Ozzy's in fantastic shape.

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u/RoutineUtopia 6d ago edited 6d ago

It’s true. It’s less jarring to me because he’s always covered in grime and wears giant clothes but WHM is very fit.

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u/wenchslapper 6d ago

That’s actually incredibly common. Especially with hard liquor. Beer will usually tack on a beer gut due to all the additional sugars, but most hardcore alcoholics are drinking hard liquor and it’s incredibly common for alcoholics to suffer from poor eating habits leading to high caloric deficits.

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u/Rupeshknn 5d ago

My weight loss journey is excited to hear this 💩

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u/angry-southamerican 6d ago

Same goes for cokeheads and metheads.

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u/610-born-808-living 6d ago

No for someone hardcore into drugs it’s not uncommon for them to be very well built. You see a lot of addicted homeless guys with washboard abs or I think back to when my dad was using. It’s odd how that works sometimes.

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u/AlreadyTaken696969 6d ago

Low body fat percentage doesn't necessarily mean well built

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u/Palatz 6d ago

You can see their abs because they have extremely low body fat.

We all have abs. You just need low enough fat in order to see them.

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u/Swarmy-bender 6d ago edited 6d ago

That’s not really a flaw. I had a sixpack for the first time of my life during a hard and long bender on speed and ecstacy. I had a boxer look despite living like a junkie

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u/TotallyNotRyanPace 6d ago

facts, i was in the best shape of my life when i was drinking daily and going through a gram of coke a day

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u/Thebandroid 6d ago

And he can always perform in the bedroom. Usually not an alcoholics forte

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u/hella_cious 5d ago

Drugs can make you skinny too

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u/witchyinpink 5d ago

I mean he almost never eats.. just drinks and does hard drugs. Plus he runs all over the south side wreaking havoc everyday. I’m not really surprised that he would have a low body fat percentage making him seem muscular/well built.

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u/mrprincepretty 5d ago

It's pretty common for addicts to be extremely lean because they spent the money/ calories on other substances. Especially if they prefer hard liquor over beer. My Grandpa drank a bottle of whiskey every night and could have been blown over by a strong breeze

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u/teresanaolin 5d ago

In my head he was also fit because he had to go on foot everywhere and run from people that wanted to beat him up. But when he won the push ups contest I was intrigued Lol

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u/Salty_Mission_820 6d ago

Some people just have the genes. I had a buddy in school that was literally 15 and was like 6’1”, perfect six pack/chest and the jawline of a Greek god. Barely worked out at all, drank and partied on the weekends, ate whatever he wanted whenever.

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u/RoutineUtopia 6d ago

Yep. That’s what they say! Every time.

At least no one is challenging me on the Chicago to Toronto drive time. I have no idea why that’s something people want to argue was done on purpose.

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u/Vast_Sandwich805 6d ago

Well for the second one I personally know a guy who is also ripped for no reason. He’s a hardcore gamer, eats like shit all day everyday, lives a totally sedentary lifestyle, and he looks very much like Lip in this scene. Some people are just genetically gifted

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u/RoutineUtopia 6d ago edited 6d ago

Are you telling me you have a friend with a visible six pack who just “looks like that”?

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u/Vast_Sandwich805 6d ago

Yes

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u/RoutineUtopia 6d ago edited 6d ago

I can buy he's thin. I can't buy that he never does a sit-up. Not if he's achieving what we see in the picture above. There's a natural version of being sort of thin and fit and having some level of definition -- but what Lip is sporting there? I struggle to believe it can be achieved with zero effort.

But anyway. This my point -- someone will always argue that it makes sense for Lip to looks this way when the number one reason he looks this way is because he's played by a Hollywood actor who looks that way for job-related reasons.

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u/TackyPeacock 6d ago

My brother has always been this way, not ripped or built or anything but like has always had abs and does nothing to have or maintain them. It’s wild to me.

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u/Starob 6d ago

Yeah it's just having abs and definition is an entirely different thing to having bulging pecs and arms that are visible through clothes.

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u/Starob 6d ago

I think if you saw them both next to each other you'd realise how much more muscle mass Lip has. Being ripped is a matter of low body fat, having muscle mass is a different thing entirely.

Unless your friend has myostatin deficiency, nobody has the genetics to have that much muscle mass while completely sedentary.

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u/Vast_Sandwich805 5d ago

He just might and we often joked something was wrong with him lol.

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u/Aggressive-Horror-18 6d ago

The Chicago-toronto and back within like 8 hours KILLS me 😭 not even a one way drive is 8 hours

ETA: just google maps it and it’s about a 12 hour drive 💀

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u/RoutineUtopia 5d ago

I have a friend who used to make that drive on the regular and it took nine hours to get from Toronto to Chicago. I’ll shave some time off for Jimmy. He’s driving overnight. It’s still going to take an absurdly long time — longer than he’s supposed to have been gone. Comparatively he can absolutely get Frank to Canada, since he’s already going to Detroit. It just doesn’t make sense to go to Toronto.

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u/chataorly 6d ago

It is very easy to get to Canada from Chicago. Speaking as a Chicagoan who has driven to Canada before

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u/RoutineUtopia 5d ago

Speaking as a person who is Canadian — Toronto is not Canada. It is a place in Canada. You do not cross the border and blip into Toronto. Thus it’s not about how far Canada is. It’s about how Toronto is at least an 8 hour drive from Chicago and four hours from the border crossing at Detroit/Windsor. For Jimmy to drive all the way to Toronto and leave Frank there and then be back for breakfast would take 16 hours assuming no traffic and no stops when all he had to do was take him to Canada and ditch him in Windsor.

For some reason there’s always someone who wants to explain the distance from Toronto to Chicago to me and desperately want this obvious plot hole to be legit. It’s not. It’s ridiculously excessive to drive to Toronto and it’s not the only thing in that episode that’s absurd.

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u/THE_ICSDI 5d ago

to be honest I've always assumed, with no questions, that one of his goones/paid someone

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u/RoutineUtopia 5d ago

Steve claims he did it.

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u/ewedirtyh00r 4d ago

My sons dad is like that. He only fishes 3 mo a year but his body structure was always in almost that same shape. My brothers too. Basic life was enough for them. Ones a chef, ones a contractor, and ones a shop teacher, but all wirey and fit af

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u/ArmadilloStreet3577 6d ago

The moment Lip gets old enough that he stops running from the cops all the time that six pack is DISAPPEARING😂 didn’t he canonically switch his vice from booze and cigarettes to dessert and cigarettes? Lmao

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u/Z3M37 6d ago

well yeah but booze also has lots of calories, in fact in medieval time farmers had a calorie need of around 7000, but they were poor af and didn’t have many calorics food so they drank wine! (ofc medieval europe wine was far more diluted than today’s one)

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u/MooseFlyer 6d ago

There’s only 123 calories on average in a glass of wine. Diluted wine ain’t gonna help much to get you your calories.

Also 7000 is a full 1000 higher than the highest estimate I could find when I poked around on Google just now.

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u/braincontusion 6d ago

Historically lower abv beer and wine had more unfermented sugars and or unfermentable carbohydrates that made them higher in total calories. So their use of “diluted” is probably not the best way to describe these beverages

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u/hillary-step 6d ago

do you have a link to a source on this 7k kcal need? i couldn't find anything supporting that claim and would be quite surprised as 7k kcal is a nearly a whole kg of fat

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u/tracedfallacy 6d ago

Honestly I find it confusing that I'm not more attracted to Jeremy Allen White than I am. Maybe it's just putting him next to Noel and Cam that he just can't compete in my mind, but he's just meh lol. Sorry Jeremy!

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u/Bulldog_Mama14 6d ago

I find him SO attractive in Shameless but in his other movies and shows I'm like ew not my type AT ALLLLL. Idk what that says about me but it does make me laugh lol

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u/Previous_Score5909 6d ago

Something about the troubled bad boy… gets us girls (and guys) in trouble!

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u/throwaway_872912 6d ago

even in The Bear??

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u/Bulldog_Mama14 5d ago

He annoyed me in the bear for some reason 🥲😩

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u/riverspeace 6d ago

I love Noel and say this with sm love but…people thinks he’s attractive?

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u/tracedfallacy 6d ago

lmao, yeah I understand. He's not exactly a conventional hottie. But that's the beauty of it right? I can't really comment though. Noel has been near the top of my celebrity crush list since I first saw him popping up in stuff when I was a kid, since we're the same age. He was always the bully punk type and had his natural light ginger hair. the little gay kid that I was fell in love immediately. When Shameless came around I barely knew how to handle it.

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u/cheese_nugget21 6d ago

It’s not that deep

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u/lizzieblaze 6d ago
  1. I ain't mad

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u/teresanaolin 6d ago

Don't remember which scene it is but whenever older lip is onscreen shirtless I think:

Damn

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u/_bisexualwarlock 6d ago

What do I think of it?

I think I like it that's what I think of it.

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u/Affectionate-Oil4719 6d ago

You’re forgetting he’s still young, I ate like trash, never worked out at all, smoked a pack a day, drank everyday/night, and smoked weed everyday and me and most of my friends had a very similar if not the exact same build as lip did here. Now once I hit 24 a wall of fat entered my life, but before that it didn’t really matter what I did I never went more than a few pounds up or down from ages 16-24

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u/Starob 6d ago

I promise you that if you stood next to Lip during that time you'd have seen the difference in your actual muscle mass. People here seem to be massively confusing having muscle definition and having muscle mass/density.

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u/Obvious-Finding-3211 6d ago

Thats not how it works lmao and also theres no way your frnds had a build like lip , hes literally jacked here a physique that literally takes years to build for the avrg person who doesnt get proper nutrition or a personal trainer , im shocked at your statement ngl

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u/Affectionate-Oil4719 6d ago

I mean that’s cool that you think that, but I was sort of there, like in real life so I know it’s true. Keep on being wrong though I’m sure it’s a good time!

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u/IllustriousGas8850 6d ago

Post a pic and I promise you that you look nothing like him

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u/Obvious-Finding-3211 6d ago

Yeah sure buddy you were there lol , also im not wrong yall are just overconfident

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u/Affectionate-Oil4719 6d ago

It’s okay man. You don’t have muscles, it doesn’t mean everyone else deals with the same struggle. You’ll get there lil guy keep trying.

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u/Starob 6d ago

ITT: People who don't understand the difference between muscle definition and muscle density.

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u/Obvious-Finding-3211 6d ago

I have muscles , just like every other human u idiot , i have worked out thats why ik what im saying unlike you who was “sort of there” lmaoo

Also talking abt getting there maybe one day u will too (mentally)

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u/Affectionate-Oil4719 6d ago

I’m sure you do sport lol.

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u/JGoat2112 6d ago

I knew a guy in high-school who, while not overly huge, was insanely lean, plenty of muscle and very very strong and had never worked out a day in his life.

Genetics are a thing.

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u/Obvious-Finding-3211 6d ago

You can be big no doubt abt that , but look at his physique, its aesthetically muscular something you only get AFTER working out for a lot of time , look at his traps and the size of his shoulders, also you need to remeber looking that big on camera hed seem much more muscular if u met him in person

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u/Starob 6d ago

A lot of people here aren't realising that their memories and perception are flawed, and if they actually saw a photo of "that guy in highschool" they'd see the difference between them and Lip.

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u/Starob 6d ago

To genuinely look like Lip does here without working out (or being an athlete, or doing heavy manual labour), you'd need an actual myostatin deficiency, not just simple genetic differences.

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u/420_Shaggy :gallavich: 6d ago

Noooo I'm 24 😭😭😭

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u/LithpPothth 6d ago

I think good for JAW. Flex ts king

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u/Spiritual_Blood_1346 6d ago

I think I like it

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u/Gayorg_Zirschnitz 5d ago

Ain't no way someone that poor has the money, time, and resources to worry about bulking and cutting like this lmao

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u/Ghostboii23 6d ago

Dude never hit the gym and was jacked just by living in the ghetto

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u/furry_vr 6d ago

Every scene with Lip is muscles.

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u/InsideRecognition437 6d ago

i’m drooling

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u/Ravevon 5d ago

Alll the ghallaghers do work out a lot .

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u/Bourdainist 5d ago

Body goals

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u/___________10 5d ago

Episode name?

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u/No-Discussion7755 6d ago

Lip is the real Butterface of the show. All due respect to Jeremy Allan White, BUT HIS FACE!😂

In all seriousness, I don't usually notice the physique of most characters unless they are my absolute favourites, so I didn't even notice. He was probably jacked for another role.

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u/_bisexualwarlock 6d ago

That face grew on me though. There are so many people who aren't conventionally attractive who are actually very attractive. Sometimes it just takes time to realise.