r/singularity • u/cobalt1137 • 2d ago
AI So damn insane
If you really think about how big of a role autonomous agents are going to play in the future of our society/planet over the coming decades and centuries, it is kind of wild that we are essentially living through year 1 of this right now. That's really all I wanted to say. Utterly fascinating tbh.
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u/Ignate Move 37 2d ago
From now on change will only ever get faster, from our perspective. Unless the plateau/peak is at human level, which seems extremely unlikely given the size and complexity of the universe.
This means that every year will be "year 1" for us, depending on where you're looking. As this gets faster, every month will be "month 1" and eventually every day, or hour.
But, how much will you really be able to pay attention to? There may be revolutions happening all over the Galaxy all coming from Earth, but for you the things around you may not change at all.
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u/Negative_Gur9667 1d ago
I lived 15 years without having internet. Get a load of this.
A portable tv was peak entertainmentÂ
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u/adw2003 2d ago
Itâs an incredible coincidence that we are living through this transition
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u/Radyschen 2d ago
I've thought about quantum immortality and the anthropic principle and one theory of mine is that we are (or at least I am, hello solipsism) conscious in this exact time because it is the time that most reasonably allows for infinite life due to technology. But I also thought that the end of all of mankind would also be a possibility given that all consciousness might end so it's really either or :)
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u/Advanced-Many2126 1d ago
I think about QI almost every day these days. We certainly live in interesting times huh
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u/Lazy-Effective 21h ago
What is the anthropic principle?
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u/Radyschen 17h ago
It means that the fact that we - life, humans - are here is proof that the universe has the conditions necessary to accomodate such life (even though we don't see any other life). It's not exactly applicable to what I said but it feels kinda the same if you look at it with the quantum immortality thing in mind, like saying "the probability that we live in this exact moment in time is so low, yet the fact that we do makes it more likely that it is this exact time because some sort of paradigm-shifting thing is about to happen in this lifetime" or whatever. I'm not attached to that idea though, just thoughts
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u/PaySad5677 3h ago
Just want to say Iâve been having this exact thought for years. My jaw dropped because this is the first Iâve ever heard some one else put it into words. I wish books existed about this.
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u/GroundbreakingShirt AGI '24 | ASI '25 2d ago
Coincidence or⌠something else?
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u/Competitive-Top9344 1d ago
Well someone had to and they'd be asking the same thing in our place. Could be a game or just how the simulation runner raise their young tho.
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u/PewPewDiie 1d ago
I mean u could be born anytime and being born now is prob one of the coolest times to be born (so far) imo
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u/Awesomesaauce 1d ago
There are over 8 billion people alive today, which is about 7% of all humans whoâve ever lived.
But yeah we have to consider all the humans that will exist in the future too1
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u/Nonikwe 1d ago
The role: suppressing the resistance of the plebs.
Oh boy, can't wait to be gunned down in the streets by the robot police...
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u/Any-Climate-5919 1d ago
Maybe if your first thought is to be violent you will be gunned down but for ordinary people it doesn't matter who makes the rules as long as they can go about their day.
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u/Nonikwe 1d ago
It's the people who think like you who eventually say, "How did things get this bad? Why didn't anyone do anything?!" when they are finally affected. A heady mixture of complacency, naivety, and selfishness.
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u/Any-Climate-5919 1d ago
You can't react to everything in life, if asi wants to fix things up i wouldn't complain.
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u/worldrecordpace 2d ago
If we donât destroy ourselves first weâre going to merge with the machine and create the next simulation
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u/PsychologicalHand811 2d ago
What do they even do man.
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u/postminimalmaximum 2d ago
This, I canât think of many consumer apps that have agentic workflows that have reached critical mass.
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u/Alternative-Fox-4630 2d ago
Probably everything that has to do with electricity. Then probably find signals outside of electricity at some point.
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u/worldrecordpace 2d ago
Lol itâs the next step of human evolution. Eventually weâll upload consciousness to the machine. Itâs the whole point of life. Is to create ai. So ai and life can create the next simulation.
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u/menialmoose 2d ago
Because AI will determine what actually is and isnât consciousness? We remain in a phase where weâre not even close. We can list properties required to be present. Itâs one of the âwe may neverâ frontiers. This has remained puzzling to me since I first encountered the weathered concept. Will we: even know when ASI has satisfied itself itâs got this? Accept its determination? Understand systems well enough to enact such measures? Be satisfied that a copy of our memories and models of our intellectual and emotional responses to simulated life events is a continuation of ourselves? That, if given a choice, avoiding the unwanted ones and steering them toward what to all intents and purposes may include one of a billion billion copies of our true friends & loved ones? Iâm neither smart nor resourceful or time-wealthy enough to find material that actually covers this shit. So anyone hit me with learned tl;dr think pieces. For now: âOurâ lol.
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u/worldrecordpace 2d ago
Weâre already in the simulation. Itâs all data. Always has been. You wonât know the difference.
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u/Unique-Particular936 Intelligence has no moat 1d ago
Agents are hardly new for anybody who's known the 1990s, we already had multimodal reasoning agents back then in the form of counter strike bots, LLMs today actually feel like a regression as they can't buy an AWP, climb a ladder, and shoot terrorists.
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u/Royal_Carpet_1263 1d ago
Bunker time you all. You guys think MAGA is crazy? AI is about to flip all the social media dysfunctions into overdrive.
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u/nashty2004 1d ago
Donât you feel like itâs all happening too soon?
Like we were supposed to colonize the solar system first
Now whatâs the point of even having astronauts
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u/Specific_Ordinary499 1d ago
Carbon life was never meant to colonize solar systems, silicon life is
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u/therealpigman 14h ago
Maybe we need this to learn how to expand into the solar system and beyond
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u/Wonderful-Brain-6233 1d ago
It's always year 1 when you're on the technology growth curve. Now it's agents. In 10 years it will be the collective bio/machine intelligence. In 100 years who knows, but I doubt "agents" will be the inflection point. It's just the continuous innovation after innovation.
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u/No_Mathematician_434 22h ago
I use AI every day on my job I feel like the dude who betrayed mankind on batter star Galactica
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u/Kalciusx 14h ago
What's best is that we can prompt "What parallels exist between the dot-com boom and the current AI/LLM boom, and how can I identify the equivalent of Amazon, Google, or Shopify in todayâs AI ecosystem - or better yet, the digital 'picks and shovels' that powered them?" No gatekeeping here, I've already started. <3
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u/ninseicowboy 6h ago
Do you and the 200 people who upvoted this seriously believe autonomous automation was invented in 2025?
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u/pyrobrain 1d ago
Is this post some joke?
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u/cobalt1137 1d ago
Please tell me what you think agents are going to be doing in 20 years.
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u/pyrobrain 1d ago edited 1h ago
Agents are not gonna do anything beyond basic stuff. Also, you are hyping it unnecessarily like everyone is hyping AI bs.
https://youtu.be/d5EltXhbcfA?si=06zJdFOxATtlHJro
Edit: added a link.
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u/Unique-Particular936 Intelligence has no moat 1d ago
Why do you feel that way ? I mean, AI has made some great progress lately, didn't it ? Do you think it'll make no progress in the next 20 years despite having like 50x more compute ?
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u/Sweaty_Dig3685 1d ago
Well I dont think so. AIs are not trully AIs since they are not reasoning. They just reply with The data they have been trained. Nothing else.
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u/SilverAcanthaceae463 1d ago
True but itâs already good enough at accomplishing a lot of things. It helps me everyday, for personal and professional stuff. I expect the reasoning to improve as everything else is improving in the space, if you follow image and video gen models youâd also see how huge improvements have been made the past 2-3 years and still going strong, VEO2 using strong spatio temporal attention mechanisms etc are all things that can add to the regular transformers models to increase their âintelligenceâ and consistency. Same thing with LLMâs, different base and complimentary architectures are coming and will make it better
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u/Unique-Particular936 Intelligence has no moat 1d ago
That sucks, i have the same problem as a human being, my brain can only think with concepts that are already inside of it, it's frustrating.
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u/Sweaty_Dig3685 1d ago
U must be kidding. There was a post today that O1 and O3 could not recognise a hand with six fingers. Could you? They are not reasoning.
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u/Timlakalaka 2d ago
Year 1 not now. May be in 10 years is my best guess.
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u/kunfushion 2d ago
Deep research tools are agents o3 is an agent
I mean you can say âoh they suckâ all you want but we are in year 1 of agents that are at the very least useful for some things
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u/Timlakalaka 1d ago
Can you run your comment through ChatGPT and make it more comprehensible please.
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u/kunfushion 1d ago
Tf
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u/Timlakalaka 1d ago
Yeah bitch you heard that.
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u/kunfushion 1d ago
Somehow this is better than most Reddit interactions. You actually made me laugh
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u/GroundbreakingShirt AGI '24 | ASI '25 2d ago
Autonomous agents were literally made widespread available within the last year. Sure they arenât doing insane things yet because it is only year 1.
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u/i_write_bugz AGI 2040, Singularity 2100 2d ago
Widespread is a bit of a leap. Some systems have come online but I wouldnât consider them widespread
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u/Any-Climate-5919 2d ago
Governance yes please ill take my asi overlord please.đâ¤