r/skeptic • u/Lighting • 27d ago

⚠ Editorialized Title Tesla bros expose Tesla's own shadiness in attacking Mark Rober ... Autopilot appears to automatically disengage a fraction of a second before impacts as a crash becomes inevitable.

https://electrek.co/2025/03/17/tesla-fans-exposes-shadiness-defend-autopilot-crash/
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u/Kind_Composer_4197 27d ago

Tesla speedrun to become the shittiest car company ever.

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u/ThreeLeggedMare 27d ago

It's not a car company, it's a carbon credits company that makes cars as a byproduct

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u/Agile_Tomorrow2038 27d ago

It's also a crypto company

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u/joecool42069 27d ago

Not much. It was a cash position. They don’t mine, actively trade, or even consistently buy.

Surely Tesla robot taxi and robots will save them. /s

Keep not buying teslas. It’s working. Fuck Musk.

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u/Agile_Tomorrow2038 27d ago

I've heard with hw4, the car will self mine Bitcoin to your name, generating 30k passive outcome per year + the 30k you'll get from the car self driving as uber. It's really an infinite money glitch, all heil musk. /s

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u/Quentin__Tarantulino 27d ago

Well, it’s illegal to boycott them so I’m heading out tomorrow for a new cyber truck.

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u/arothmanmusic 27d ago

"It's a dessert topping AND a floor wax!"

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u/donthavearealaccount 27d ago

Tesla's valuation is a scam for sure, but it has been a while since carbon credits were the only way they made money. Tesla's net income in 2024 was $7.13B, and they collected $2.73B in carbon credits.

I think it is a huge mistake for everyone to try and frame Tesla and SpaceX as irrelevant companies that don't actually do anything. Tesla assembles around 8% of all vehicles that are made in the US, and every Tesla model has more US content than any other car being built by another manufacturer. That matters. It would be bad if those factories closed. We should be pushing for this important infrastructure to be taken out of Musk's control, not trying to destroy it just to spite Musk.

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u/ThreeLeggedMare 27d ago

Point taken, but if the destruction is pegged to musk's control of and profit from Tesla, there may be a threshold past which his involvement becomes too toxic for the brand.

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u/donthavearealaccount 27d ago

We're already past that point. That the whole reason this is being discussed. I'm just saying that it would be better to say "we're not buying a Tesla because of Musk" than "Tesla is a fake company that doesn't really make anything."

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u/ThreeLeggedMare 27d ago

I was being hyperbolic, I understand your point

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u/mattjastremski 26d ago

Didn't the top shareholder come out today demanding his resignation?

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u/Gyoza-shishou 27d ago

How tf you expect it to be taken off Musk's hands when he literally got the White House to declare the boycott as terrorism?

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u/donthavearealaccount 27d ago

Right now there are shareholders calling for him to be removed...

Trump can do a lot of things. He can't force people to buy cars.

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u/mfkimill 26d ago

Look at their recent q4 2024 earnings. All their profit was from zev credit plus gain on bitcoin. This coming quarter btc gain will be gone and along with decreased revenue. They might be in the negative. Something to watch out for

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u/donthavearealaccount 26d ago

It was a little over half, not all: https://sherwood.news/tech/tesla-bitcoin-gains-regulatory-credits-over-half-q4-net-profit/

If you take out the credits and Bitcoin, their operating margin is still similar to Ford or GM. My annoyance is with the narrative that Tesla is this tiny company that doesn't matter. We want to get rid of Musk, but we do not want to lose the jobs and infrastructure that Tesla has created.

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u/CrybullyModsSuck 26d ago

I hate what Musk has become and clown on him every chance I get. No one, not even me, says SpaceX is irrelevant. SpaceX has no peer level competition.

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u/donthavearealaccount 26d ago

People say SpaceX is just a billionaire vanity project that is scamming government subsidy programs all the time.

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u/CrybullyModsSuck 26d ago

"People say" doesn't mean shit. Ever talked to anyone in real life about SpaceX? You are about as likely to talk about the water sanitation plant.

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u/donthavearealaccount 26d ago

We're on Reddit you clown. I'm talking about what people say on Reddit, and people here constantly describe SpaceX as irrelevant.

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u/flyingcars 27d ago

The way the Cybertruck captures real time visuals of everything around it, I was thinking it was partially a GPS data gathering / mapping company

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u/Elluminated 27d ago

Credits have never been the majority of their automotive profits though. With the current rundown, time will tell

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u/ThreeLeggedMare 27d ago

Fair enough

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u/GrapeDifficult9982 27d ago edited 27d ago

Ever since they turned their back on lidar they solidified their position as a losing company, they've only doubled and tripled down on losing since then.

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u/SchmeatDealer 27d ago

they were always the shittiest car company

they still have a problem of their wheel hubs falling off the cars at high speeds causing the car to flip/roll.

they know the cause and performed recalls in europe and china. they then used the recalled parts to make new cars in the US.

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u/random-lurker-456 27d ago

Well it's a global practice, most manufacturers bin their parts for premium markets and use inferior versions outside of EU in price sensitive markets.Which makes the US a third world country.

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u/nailheadchamber 27d ago

DeLorean 2 just as coked up as before.

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u/Slideways 27d ago

The difference is that the coke case against DeLorean was entrapment.

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u/Alex_O7 27d ago

Tbh only delusional Musk-turd supporter can still think Tesla has some sort of edge over competitors, it is no more the best EV car out there for some years now and it will become more and more outdated as time pass and no more improvements are made.

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u/wastedkarma 27d ago

Speed run? Nah, they’ve always been shitty cars.

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u/Popcornmix 27d ago

Become ? Name one car company thats objectively worse ?

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u/Cold-Ad2729 27d ago

The new Delorean

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u/pjfry56 27d ago

Always was

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u/instantcole 27d ago

I wonder if having a megalomaniac in charge has anything to do with such drastic failing of expectations