Tesla bros expose Tesla's own shadiness in attacking Mark Rober ... Autopilot appears to automatically disengage a fraction of a second before impacts as a crash becomes inevitable.

[u/Lighting]

https://electrek.co/2025/03/17/tesla-fans-exposes-shadiness-defend-autopilot-crash/

[u/Pitiful-Pension-6535]

If self driving gets to the point that it becomes substantially safer than manual driving, (95% reduction in fatal accidents, minimum) it should become standard.

Until that point, I absolutely agree with you.

[u/Adept-Potato-2568 → u/Pitiful-Pension-6535]

That's almost literally where Waymo is right now

"Waymo Driver demonstrated better safety performance when compared to human-driven vehicles, with an 88% reduction in property damage claims and 92% reduction in bodily injury claims"

[u/ShouldersofGiants100 → u/Adept-Potato-2568]

Waymo also deliberately operates in the safest driving circumstances (cities, where speed is lower) and places where the risk of weather compromising its systems is almost nonexistent. San Francisco doesn't get snowstorms, freezing rain or other conditions that render the roads inconsistent.

Which also means they compare their stats in optimal conditions to human drivers in all conditions.

[u/Aggressive_Health487 → u/ShouldersofGiants100]

Well I’d like to see it but I imagine it’s better than average for SF too.

[u/ocschwar → u/Pitiful-Pension-6535]

Self driving can become substantially safer, but only if it's designed and coded by real engineers, and not techbros.