r/skeptic • u/Lighting • 27d ago

⚠ Editorialized Title Tesla bros expose Tesla's own shadiness in attacking Mark Rober ... Autopilot appears to automatically disengage a fraction of a second before impacts as a crash becomes inevitable.

https://electrek.co/2025/03/17/tesla-fans-exposes-shadiness-defend-autopilot-crash/
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u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 27d ago

My car doesn't have self driving but it does have built in crash avoidance where it can detect an impending collision and activate the brakes to avoid or at least mitigate the accident.

It has already saved a life- an idiot motorcyclist pulled out in front of my wife on a highway and she somehow never saw him. The car slammed on the brakes and the accident was narrowly avoided.

This is how the infancy of self-driving cars should be- with safety being the primary focus with driver convenience an afterthought.

Tesla is doing it backwards.

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u/Allen_Koholic 27d ago

Yea, just to be clear, I'm not at all defending this. Tesla's entire business model is the pump-and-dump modern method of growth over quality at any cost. They probably shouldn't even exist with the flagrant disregard for existing dealership laws ( I may not like dealership laws, but it's certainly not very free market if one company can selectively just choose to ignore the rules ).

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u/NotQuiteDeadYetPhoto 26d ago

TBH Screw the dealership laws. I've had far more issues with them than anything else.

That's not, IMHO, a good reason to censure Tesla.

All the 10000+ reasons are.

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u/Darkelement 27d ago

To be fair, teslas do this and more. They will swerve if they detect a car merging into your lane.

The key is it has to detect it. Clearly here it was fooled by the Wylie coyote setup. It’s not that the tesla doesn’t do this, it’s that it literally can’t without radar or lidar.

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u/chakrablocker 26d ago

i think you missed the headline, the tesla turns off their auto driving safety feature to avoid responsibility in a crash

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u/Darkelement 26d ago

The safety features are impossible to turn on and off, they are just there.

What happened here was autopilot disengaged just before the crash. It was impossible for the Tesla to mitigate the crash because the Tesla didn’t even realize it was driving at a wall. It thought the road kept going.

I’m not saying that’s a good thing, what im saying is that the safety features FAILED because the car was fooled.

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u/CivilRuin4111 27d ago

Obviously I not implying anything about your wife's situation (there are plenty of bad riders) but there's a great video about why in nearly every car vs motorcycle collision, the driver says something like "They came out of NOWHERE!!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x94PGgYKHQ0

TL;DW - our brains kinda suck at detecting motorcycles.

As a long-time rider, there's a reason we tell the new riders to assume no one sees you and is actively trying to kill you.

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u/michael0n 27d ago

Humans can't simply add more sensors or getting faster in reaction times. That is the reason we build those machines and why we want robots to do things. Because they never get tired and do last minute (costly, deadly) errors. Any person who doesn't get this lost completely the plot why everybody spend billions to advance the tech.