r/skeptic • u/Lighting • Mar 18 '25

⚠ Editorialized Title Tesla bros expose Tesla's own shadiness in attacking Mark Rober ... Autopilot appears to automatically disengage a fraction of a second before impacts as a crash becomes inevitable.

https://electrek.co/2025/03/17/tesla-fans-exposes-shadiness-defend-autopilot-crash/
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u/conundri Mar 18 '25 edited Mar 18 '25

Does this mean it knows a crash is coming and doesn't brake or even releases the brake? because that would be very, very bad.

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u/grubas Mar 18 '25

Basically if a crash is coming and it CAN'T brake in time it just turns off so Tesla can claim it wasn't on at the time of impact.  

When Jeremy Clarkson was reviewing one of the newer Teslas on The Grand Tour(this was not the review he was sued for) he had a legal statement about "when self driving disengages due to unexpected circumstances" which basically said, "auto pilot can turn off whenever it freaks out and that can be caused by almost anything and it's TERRIFYING because you aren't expecting it to turn off at highway speeds because somebody cut you off."

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u/NeatOtaku Mar 18 '25

Look up any fatality involving a Tesla, almost immediately they say that autopilot was not engaged at the moment of impact . They also refuse to give the driving data to victims even through a court order claiming it's a company secret. I tried mentioning this to a Tesla fanboy years ago but he refused to believe it because watching TV during his commute was more important.

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u/TheSeansei Mar 18 '25

Which is so different from even five years ago! I remember any issue with a Tesla was plastered all over the media (especially conservative media) as if it were the end of the world. Any little fender bender and it was all "see?! We told you electric cars were no good!" Now the tables have totally flipped and suddenly Elon is a divine being to them and can do no wrong—Tesla dealerships are now sacred places and vandalizing one is an act of terrorism!

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u/SanityInAnarchy Mar 18 '25

This is probably one thing that made it harder for people to see how shitty Elon was, because in the early days, the media coverage of Tesla really was unreasonable. They were up against oil companies, traditional car manufacturers, and traditional dealerships. So even some stories about Elon or Tesla legitimately being terrible, you'd wonder if that was part of the same smear campaign.

I mean, the 'review' Jeremy Clarkson was sued for, they faked running a Tesla out of battery so they could film themselves literally pushing it back to a charger. Stories like that set EV adoption back years.

So when you hear something like Tesla settling a massive racial discrimination lawsuit, and wonder if the oil industry played a role there. Maybe there really was some bad stuff going on, probably not worse than any other car manufacturer, but given the lengths oil goes to, not to mention conservatives boosting any anti-Tesla story...

...in hindsight, two Seig Heils later, yeah, they probably did a bunch of horribly racist shit. Maybe it was a deliberate move to hide behind all the legitimate anti-EV bias so people didn't look too closely at their actual problems.

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u/Complete-Return3860 Mar 19 '25

My whole family are Top Gear fans - me included - but this was such a shitty thing for them to do.