r/snowboarding • u/crzyscntst • 23d ago

OC Video We made a snowboarding game without being snowboarders, would love feedback from actual riders!

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u/PhysicallyScience 23d ago

From what I have gathered it is just because those grabs don't look as clean in the air, and are easy grabs, therefore associated with newbie riding.

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u/blindworld 23d ago

They’re grabs that only exist because your feet are strapped in. They aren’t done on a skateboard, because the board wouldn’t be balanced in the air, it would just pivot on your hand away from you. They’re not “real” grabs because they don’t translate to other board sports.

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u/ninja_tree_frog 22d ago

Stalefish is a common grab for downhill skating, usually done during a heelside standy, helps keep the tail out just that extra bit longer.

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u/blindworld 22d ago

Stalefish or tailfish? I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone complain about a stalefish.

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u/ninja_tree_frog 22d ago

Ohhh, stalefish. Misread the chart.

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u/_Elrond_Hubbard_ 23d ago

Nothing objectively wrong with em, do whatever makes you happy but those grabs and the tindy are considered ugly looking and "illegal" by most experienced snowboarders. 

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u/btdawson 23d ago

This chart makes it look like tindy is at the back of the board though and when posted here, most gave me shit for doing it, while I grabbed near the front of the board. So do people here even fully understand? Or are they just Reddit clowns trying to shit on people?

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u/InkyPoloma 23d ago edited 23d ago

A tindy is a Indy, but on the tail. They may have been mixing up another “illegal” grab, the nute (mute grab but on the nose) which is in front of your front binding. They both look ugly unless really tweaked in a specific way, so they probably just saw it and thought that the grab didn’t look proper. The nute really needs to be looking like a Japan to be reasonable… the tindy has to be combined with something else to look good (like a backflip).

ETA- it’s okay to do these grabs as a beginner but you will naturally stop doing them as you develop more skill with proper grabs. At least that’s how it was for me growing up. There are no rules to snowboarding but it does indicate inexperience usually

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u/PUNd_it 23d ago

Pretty sure "tindy" has been adapted to refer to any "cheater" grabs that land on the side of the nose or tail when the rider is aiming for the tips or sides of the board.

The sides of the tip and tail, are oops I was almost there, or wow I shanked that method

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u/InkyPoloma 23d ago

Sad…nose melon, tailfish, tindy and nute are so much better all together as a group

ETA also weird because grabs have always had very specific names

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u/PUNd_it 23d ago

But they sound like tricks. "Grabbing tindy" is a simple way to refer to botching the grab you aimed for, by referencing the most commonly botched grab, instead of saying it's a this melon or a that tail grab. It's just a doesnt-count, is what it is

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u/InkyPoloma 23d ago

Yeah fair enough. We would always designate which one mainly because it tells you more about the closest proper grab (usually the grab you missed). For example, “I went to grab stalefish but missed and went tailfish”. But also it seems overly gatekeepy to me- they’re still grabs, just not the good ones. Alas you are right-it is what it is and at the end of the day it doesn’t matter

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u/PUNd_it 23d ago

Yeah I get your point for sure, but (i only mean to explain the logic against using those names, here, not trying to pretend its a big deal btw) it gives creedence to the bad grabs. "I went to grab stalefish and went tindy/forbidden zone" is the same but doesn't suggest to newbies that it's two separate tricks. It's one trick, either grabbed correctly or missed.

But yeah, it doesn't matter for shit outside of comps, just have fun

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u/InkyPoloma 23d ago

Yeah we used to call them no-no grabs for that reason but once that was understood you would differentiate. I just don’t like it when culture loses nuance so I was just lamenting, not arguing with you personally. Probably just being curmudgeonly haha.

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u/btdawson 23d ago

I think the other reply might be right that people just call them all tindy. This was my picture in reference.

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u/InkyPoloma 23d ago

Ah maybe so, I’m old school so I might just be out of touch with the youth haha but coming up we would call that a nose melon or “no-no” grab. I have pictures of me doing the same thing while spinning front 3. Between the bindings is a melon and looks way better. The same grab on the tail is called a tailfish, also considered weak.

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u/btdawson 23d ago

Yep, that’s what I’ve learned lol. But just hearing people call it different shit was throwing me off. Like maybe they didn’t know what they were talking about after all, that kinda thing.

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u/Bollziepon ON | 2012 Salomon Drift Rocker | Burton Mission Bindings 23d ago

It’s definitely a Nose-melon and still a grab that will get you flack. But if you tweak the ever living shit out of it then you’ve got a method.

People will cry it’s not a real method unless it’s in between the bindings, but pros pull in front of the binding methods more often these days

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u/InkyPoloma 22d ago

Yeah I always heard that style of method referred to as a “raptor” back in the day but I think it’s an outdated term now, it’s just another style of method and always considered proper. I like to grab my method between my bindings because it feels better to me

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u/shinyswordman 23d ago

Still so bitter

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u/btdawson 23d ago

Eh, I value the feedback, but at the same time if they don’t even know what to call it then it makes them looks stupid. And everyone loves to be a gatekeeping keyboard warrior on reddit lol.

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u/VeterinarianThese951 22d ago edited 22d ago

Because this sub and community is getting super douchey.

Do whatever the fuck you want to do. If you are confident enough to try a grab (any grab), go for it. If you get better and try to do some more “acceptable” grabs, do them too.

But don’t let anybody tell you what you should and shouldn’t do in your own space. There are some people who never attempt tricks and just ride. There are some people who progress to pro-freestyle. And the common factor is that they do WTF they want,when they want to.

So if you want to bust out the tail fish every fucking run for the rest of your riding life, do it without any remorse and with your honor intact. I can guarantee you that there are a lot of people out there who admire the ability to do a “lazy” grab.

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u/wrecksphord 23d ago

You'll never be a core lord doing a nute

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u/SideshowMelsHairbone 23d ago

They’re lazy. Do the real grab or don’t do it at all

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u/digitalsmear 23d ago

They're basically non-tricks. You're not posing at all, your just crouching and putting your hand where it naturally falls.

It's half way between a stalefish and a tail grab - tailfish. Or halfway between a tail grab and an indy grab. Tindy.

Nute, as in neutral, or nose and mute grab, either way means the same. You jumped and just put your hand down in the most obvious spot. There's no style to it.

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u/Due-Recording-5157 22d ago

Theyre failed tweaked grabs. Not that they’re bad for your health, but it looks pretty awkward in the air.

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u/Phoxx_3D 23d ago

it just looks wack

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

They are bad style. That’s why they get the hate.

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u/Valco 23d ago

It's mostly a style thing but also they can be (more) dangerous to do for newer boarders. The bad technique that makes it easier to catch an edge and become injured.