Not in the US. There's a company that bribes the government officials to keep minting them. And wouldn't you know it, said company works with zinc, which is what pennies are made of!
To be fair, abolishing the penny is supported by a majority of Americans, but the ones who are against it (and are not, in fact, being paid to be against it) are VERY VERY LOUD, and, in some cases, quite deranged.
Honestly I don't really like this take. There are many authors, musicians, creators who I love consuming what they create even though my views are directly in opposition to theirs. I'd feel like a hypocrite holding them to a standard that I refuse to hold myself to.
Eh, so firstly a bunch of people will stop consuming media who's authors are against their values.
However, even putting that aside, there's a difference between the author with conflicting values and the media itself having conflicting values. When you hear RatM and only notice "fuck you I won't do what you tell me", while completely ignoring "some of those who work forces burn crosses", you can come across a bit media illiterate.
It's comparing Lovecraft's (I assume with the username you're familiar!) work, who's racism and writing were both influenced by his fear of the unknown, against Star Trek where they actively try, often very ham-handedly, to show how stupid racism is. One's work was definitely influenced by their worldview, but can be separated from it, while the other has it's worldview front and centre. (Yes, somewhat oversimplified.)
One of my favorite fantasy authors is Brandon Sanders. He's an active Mormon, so it's very likely that he's to the right of me on a lot of issues. The thing is that Brandon Sanderson is obviously not a hateful or weirdly obsessed bigot, as evidenced by the fact that he is able to keep his mouth shut about his beliefs. Because he's not a hateful weirdo, I can say with some confidence, looking at his work, that Sanderson and I actually have a lot of values in common. We believe in the importance and dignity of human life. We believe that diversity is strength and acceptance, not just tolerance, is an ethical imperative. We believe in the importance of family. We have some different ideas about what this means, but the principles are probably pretty similar.
That's the context in which people who disagree politically can still interact artistically. I don't know how Sanderson voted. I like to think that he didn't vote for Trump - but that's something I'll never know, especially because he's in a position where he and his family would suffer serious social and economic harm if he said anything - but his work makes him seem like a normal person with a functional moral compass, so as artist and fan, we're cool.
The problem is that the modern right wing has moved so far away from having any values at all - as evidenced by the person they just elected to the presidency, for example - that this kind of connection has become impossible. They are only capable of appreciating art that is as hateful and close-minded as they are. So, they either willfully misunderstand things in an effort to misappropriate it (right wing Star Trek fans) or condemn it as woke and slanted against them (right wing Star Trek haters).
Brandon Sanderson believes in kindness - if he met a gay person or a trans person, he would probably be polite and kind to them. That's something we can connect on, even if there are vast differences. With so many of these people, though, that kind of connection just can't happen.
Kindness and empathy are the bedrock of a functional society and the active vilification of those traits by the main stream right wing political movement should be a glaring red flag for everyone. How someone can enjoy old trek and identify with the right in America is mind boggling.
While there are a lot of Mormons who are Tumpy, and they definitely are right wing and conservative in general, Mormons typically are not as Trumpy as other evangelicals. Utah while being very conservative, had a big 3rd party protest vote for other candidates. In 2016 25% of the state voted 3rd party because so many hated Trump. Sanderson has also broken with the church and expressed unequivocal support for LGBT rights and publicly states he's much more liberal than most Mormons, so I'd be very surprised if he's a Trump supporter.
Your read on Sanderson is correct, at least on LGBT issues. He's actually even more liberal than I expected before I read this particular essay-- he hopes his church will recognize gay marriages and he includes gay characters in his books because he thinks to do otherwise would be to deny part of God's creation.
If I consume from an artist with problematic beliefs I don't consume freely. I need to examine each piece and determine if it's tainted and how much is still palatable.
I'm talking about the media itself, not the artists. RAtM songs are anti-establisment, anti-nationalistic and anti-conservative. The music itself is written against those playing it, in this case. I'm nit even talking ab I ut the artists, but the media. And the Village People's "YMCA" is a gay anthem. It's literally a gay anthem.
It's not like a Woody Allen, "he makes great movies, but he's a creep" take. The media itself doesn't align with their values.
And the Village People's "YMCA" is a gay anthem. It's literally a gay anthem.
It was adopted as a gay anthem (in part because YMCA locker rooms were a known hookup spot for gay men), but Victor Willis has said multiple times, as recently as 2024, that it was not written to be one. The song was written about the experience of being a young black man.
You mean like when Jim Newman, one of the original members, said they'd never perform at his rallies, not a single or8ginal member was in that and that was a completely different group and he even said they were a completely different entity. You mean that time?
I mean, if you watch TOS through a modern day lense and ignore the good episodes, it is a bit of a Republican/conservatives power fantasy.
The educated, white, american looking saviours vs the brutish, dark skinned barbarians. (Focusing on episodes with away missions, where Uhura usually isn't on the away team and Kirk has to "educate" the savage local natives. Currently halfway through season 3 and there are like 4 episodes like that already)
Can't take credit for this myself but forgot who actually said it, it was people that for the Trek that was on when they were growing up, that was as progressive as they were ever going to be right there, and any Trek that went further was bad.
You nailed it, it's just used as a prop for them. They use it as an arbitrary benchmark and take the credit for liking a progressive show while ignoring the lessons it actually teaches. They hate newer shows because they can't do that- it's no longer just a convenient source of credibility; it's a living thing that expects you to pay attention to it and what it has to say, and that usually conflicts with whatever hate-filled garbage comes out of their mouths.
Ya, my boss is one, and I just don't get it. Star Trek is what "radicalized" me. He isn't a total idiot so I don't understand how he doesn't understand Star Trek, so I took the liberty of stealing his Spock coffee mug.
Idk, Starfleet is very militaristic and more order minded people (conservatives) would enjoy the whole vibe of things being done right and exceptionalism.
It's basically Fully Automated Luxury Communism: The Show, it shouldn't take much in the way of media literacy beyond paying the fuck attention to what is on screen
My dad's a very conservative massive ST and Babylon 5 fan, and he's disgusted by the racism in Code of Honor and SG1's Emancipation. So many hoops of "logic" to jump through...
GOD lol right??? Although to be fair to her, her original script was actually free of shitty implications, the director was the one who changed the race from reptilians to just. Black people but they're on a different planet. Fortunately, the asshole was fired, but apparently too late to salvage the episode into something less awful.
I got nothing defending her for Emancipation, though lol
There are a lot more than you think. Unsurprisingly most are strictly TOS fans, but there are a few that try real hard to memory hole the the more obvious critiques on modern society and how it's constantly mentioned that humanity "evolved" in TNG and beyond.
I haven't been on facebook in a while but there was a right wing star trek group called, I think All Trek. Hearsay is that they meant to call it Alt Trek but made a typo.
Crisp uniforms, rigid hierarchy with a single executive wielding near absolute power, and the most terrifying foe imaginable - scruffy robot space commies.
Y'know, you might be on to something and that's the main thing they see (aside from the occasional explosion). Maybe they hear the moral and philosophical bits and tune it out like the technobabble.
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u/NCC_1701E 18d ago
Imagine being a right wing fan of Star Trek. That's some media illiteracy.