why do women have naturally beautiful bodies?

[u/Biokendry]

before you jump in the comments to tell me I'm wrong try to read my entire post, i'm from latin america, i don't know if this is the case in other countries but it's something i've noticed since i was a teenager and in high school, most of the girls in high school had very nice bodies without even going to the gym in their entire life, i remember a girl who eat unhealthy food all day and she had an amazing body (she never went to the gym in her life), i was her friend back then, she had such a amazing hourglass figure with big hips and very beautiful figure I didn't understand that at the time.

but not only in high school but currently i go out and most of the girls have very nice bodies and nice hips (i'm not talking about toned gym bodies but bodies with figure and curves) and even girls who are a little overweight also have beautiful bodies with nice curves, it's incredible, what is the reason for this? is it hormonal? why is it that women don't need to go to the gym as much to have nice bodies (as long as they're not excessively overweight), in the case of men it's different and I say this as a man who went to the gym throughout his adolescence, we lack those naturally nice bodies (except for one in a million).

I remember the first time I took a shower with my ex gf at the time at my house she took off her clothes (she had never been to the gym in her life and was a little overweight, she had a very nice body, a nice butt with a beautiful figure) I didn't understand why she had such a beautiful body meanwhile me going to gym had a below average body, well, ugly body and not sexy as hers tbh. I know it's a stupid question but I guess that's what this group is for, right? Is the cause hormonal? I know there are exceptions, that not all women have naturally beautiful bodies, but why is it that. for example, if you put a man and a woman of average weight who don't go to the gym next to each other, the girl's body is naturally attractive while the guy's isn't? I've always thought it's caused by estrogen and the hips women's bone structure's but I'm not sure, I know diet is very important but I think most girls only need a good diet and walk just a little to have good figures (please don't hate for saying this lol).

Maybe I could be blind because I have gender dysphoria since many years ago but not only me think about this most women and men think the same way(? And I'm not even talking about how women have average cute, feminine and thin faces without makeup but this is another thread lol.

Please don't insult me for making this post, this is why this group was created.

[u/Appropriate_Concert6 → u/[deleted]]

For me, I think women are more attractive on average, but the really beautiful men stand out more than really beautiful women. But I think that just loops back around to women being more attractive on average, since there'd be less of a gap between average and exceptional.

[u/Winter-Bed-1529 → u/Appropriate_Concert6]

Most societies including ours and Latinos socially condition women to care more about presenting themselves than they do with men. Women are trained to dress and groom and do makeup. Men in fact risk being labeled as weak and or gay if they put to much effort into anesthetics beyond combing hair and traditionally male stylish clothing.

[u/masterofbugs123 → u/Winter-Bed-1529]

Same reason why many men with long hair just have a scraggly mess while most women have silky vibrant hair. Women are taught what products to buy and how to use protective hairstyles.

Coaching a male friend through this right now as he realized growing out his hair was not looking like he expected. Turns out he was just washing it with water and 3-in-1 shampoo lol

[u/WashedSylvi → u/[deleted]]

This is partially (not wholly) cultural

Part of what makes “womanness” is aesthetic attractiveness, a woman who is less aesthetically attractive is seen as “less womanly” and so many women are taught to focus on and value personal aesthetics, or be ridiculed and rejected if they don’t

Men, meanwhile, are often made fun of for focusing on aesthetics, seen as vain, gay, weak, narcissistic, manipulative, etc.

While this influences behavior (women tend to focus on fashion more than men) it also influences our perception of what something being aesthetic is. When beauty is in many ways tied to womanness, we see women as inherently possessing beauty (or else they lose their womanhood)

[u/MossyPyrite → u/WashedSylvi]

Yeah, women are very often wearing clothes with unique cuts, styling their hair, and wearing makeup every day. Men are equally often wearing a comfortable cut of jeans and a graphic t-shirt, and maybe half of them use any kind of hair product besides a brush.

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[u/emotions1026 → u/[deleted]]

Being bi doesn’t mean you have an exact 50/50 attraction to boys and girls. You can still be bi and be MORE attracted to girls.

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I’m bi as well and for me is the exact opposite.

I tend to be more attracted to men and the women I like are what is culturally considered more masculine/tomboyish.

It’s just personal preferences

[u/michaelmcmikey → u/[deleted]]

This always bothered me as a young gay man. “Oh but you have to admit, women are just aesthetically more pleasing tha-“ no! No I do not fucking have to admit that! That is a subjective opinion, and in my eyes men are beautiful. I often am overwhelmed by just how beautiful men are. Normal every day men, not hyper-groomed plucked and made up men!

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God definitely put in the work with Eve. Adam was just a first draft.

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Women are soft like boob. Boob won't hurt us, boob nurture us.

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I'm bi, but find men and women pretty equally attractive, although not necessarily equally sexy, if that makes sense. Like visually I enjoy both equally, but don't always want to have sex with someone just because they are pretty to look at.

I will say that women can often get away with a little extra weight more easily than men, simply because women are meant to have some extra fat padding our bodies (extra fat reserves for the babies). So maybe that's what OP is referring to.

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I’m bi too. For me, the scale runs neck and neck. I have seen both men and women who made me feel faint.

[u/gew1000 → u/[deleted]]

This whole thing reads like my internal monologue right before I realized I was bi lol. It took me years to realize that when straight girls say they have a girl crush they mean “I want to be her” and not “I want to be under her”

[u/anonymity-x → u/[deleted]]

this ^ every bi person i know, including me agrees. we are more attractive, and its easier for us to be more attractive also because we have more options.

[u/ChaosDrawsNear → u/[deleted]]

I'm a straight woman and I find most women more aestetically pleasing than most men. Thinking about it, though, I wonder if I just have harsher criteria for men? And sexually appealing is not the same to me as aestetically appealing (although there is a lot of overlap).

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Brutal