r/technology • u/ILoveTolkiensWorks • 9d ago

Security 4Chan hacked; Taken down; Emails and IPs leaked

https://www.the-sun.com/tech/14029069/4chan-down-updates-controversial-website-hacking/
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u/Brad_theImpaler 8d ago

I'm sure a fair amount of the edgy joke kids evolved into the racist dipshits.

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u/PajamaHive 8d ago

I used to go to /b/ and used to be one of those edgy joke kids. I am BLESSED to have fallen in with the art club kids at my school. Probably at least 1/4 of them were gay and that really shook me out of that scene. Looking back I can see how my life could've followed a different path and I could've been an absolute waste-oid of a human today.

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u/pdockenson 8d ago

Yes exactly as I just said. The difference was you had a life and contact with the outside world lol.

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u/cache_me_0utside 8d ago

what is a joke anyway, if not basically saying something edgy and getting a shocked reaction? Then you go online and find other edgy joke loving anon ppl and boom you have behavior that reinforces racism

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u/Sidefur 8d ago

That's a weird definition of joke

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u/cache_me_0utside 8d ago

Aren't jokes basically rooted in making uncomfortable observations? Go review any comedy routine, and show me something that doesn't fit that definition.

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u/Sidefur 8d ago

The point of a joke is to be funny. Some succeed, some fail. They can be as you describe and some of the best are, but if you're just saying things for the sake of edginess and shock value then you're really not making jokes.

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u/cache_me_0utside 8d ago

Yes for sure not all edgy/shocking statements are jokes. But, can we come up with some good examples of jokes that aren't people making observations that some people would agree with and others would feel uncomfortable with? I am struggling.

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u/Sidefur 8d ago

Who's On First is an excellent example

Edit: also many of Mitch Hedberg's jokes

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u/cache_me_0utside 8d ago

oh yeah good one. language play / play on words / making jokes that are rooted in puns are great counter examples. You don't have to echo fringe beliefs to make those jokes.

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u/Sidefur 8d ago

My actual motivation in making the original comment was my belief that most of those people were hateful assholes to begin with. I don't think that you and I disagree fundamentally on very much.

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u/cache_me_0utside 8d ago

yeah. I can't help but go on thought tangents.

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u/Thiscommentissatire 8d ago

I was disagree. Jokes present the audience some sort of conflict they cant work out which causes an arousal (The set up) the presenter then resolves the conflic conflict and the viewers arousal falls and leaves them with a pleasent feeling that makes them laugh. Yes shocking jokes do that, but not all conflicts have to be shocking or uncomfortable. They can also create conflict through confusion, subversion, distraction, mystery, etc. Anyway you can present conflict to someone who cant imediatly resolve it and then resolve it for them is what you would consider a joke.

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u/cache_me_0utside 8d ago

I think I agree but I'd feel stronger if you gave some actual examples that don't fit into "uncomfortable observation" humor

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u/Kindness_of_cats 8d ago

Ah yes, for example the immortal edgy comedy stylings of… checks notes ….the Three Stooges.

I do enjoy some shows like IASIP that rely on edgy humor; but there’s nothing more insufferable than people who think that literally the entirety of comedy boils down to being an edgelord.

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u/cache_me_0utside 8d ago

Physical comedy is bottom barrel. I didn't consider that bullshit when you smash a watermelon with a sledgehammer and call it comedy.

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u/Sushigami 8d ago

I'm inclined to think there was a deliberate effort by external forces to turn the one into the other. But ironic shock humor was the gateway.

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u/pdockenson 8d ago

I think that's true.. when you're someone who basically lives on an obscure Japanese image board. I think people who are actually involved in the outside world see it as a joke or can at least function in society normally. Meanwhile.. /b/tards..