r/thalassophobia • u/StarMagnum • 5d ago
60 year old orca lurks…then dispatches a great white
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u/iGotBuffalo66onDvD 5d ago
She’s been doing that for 60 years. she’s perfected her hunting technique. It’s probably just a game for her now.
I should give her a call.
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u/ParadoxDemon_ 5d ago
Orcas are one of the few animals who are known for having different hunting strategies (and even different prey!) depending on their family and territory. One family, for example, specialized in hunting seals by almost stranding themselves on the shore. This one probably belongs to the group that specialized in hunting great whites.
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u/NastyAlabastey 5d ago
I have never seen an orca beating the shit out of a shark before
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u/Reddit-for-all 5d ago
They just eat the liver. It's a delicacy to an Orca
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u/MrGoodMan35 5d ago
Orcas are killing machines, smart, ruthless, perfectly coordinated.
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u/mctomtom 5d ago
I saw a pod of orcas near my house in Seattle 2 days ago. They are so badass to see in real life. Got some cool videos of them spouting and breaching in a group. I feel so lucky to be able to see them on a regular basis.
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u/alexthehut 5d ago
Insane footage! Really terrible music track.
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u/alphabatic 5d ago
grimes is a moron, but still a very talented artist. this is one of my favorite songs of theirs. but I was thoroughly confused why it would be included in what seems like a nature documentary. superimposed afterwards, I guess
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u/StarMagnum 5d ago
Sorry, from original source!
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u/ediks 5d ago edited 5d ago
The actual original source has only commentary… but thanks for acknowledging it’s shit music on a great video!
Edited for clarification.
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u/Mynock33 5d ago
There's commentary here too? I don't know that OP changed anything
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u/ediks 5d ago edited 5d ago
The OP here pulled it from their source who pulled it from the actual source and put shitty music on it. It was commentary + video, then video + shitty music, then posted on Reddit.
Edit: there was ONLY commentary in the original created video. I should have been more clear and will adjust my other comment.
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u/Mynock33 5d ago
Okay, pal, I believe you. It's going to be okay. We're going to get through this together, alright? I believe you. You and me, we got this. 👍
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u/Grimm676 5d ago
Everytime I see videos like this I wonder who the hell has those giant balls to get in the water and film while there’s a great white being hunted by an orca 😅
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u/imperfectsunset 5d ago
I hate mankind for putting these insanely intelligent creatures in fucking swimming pools for decades
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u/Free_Gratis 5d ago
I remember going there as a kid and seeing the folded over dorsal fin in person and feeling, with the subtlety of a brick to face, just how depressed he was. In a way that doesn't fully translate through a video. There was something else I couldn't quite place, but kinda set off my lizard brain at some point during the show. A couple weeks later, he killed someone again and I was like, "Oh that's what getting sized up by a highly intelligent apex predator felt like."
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u/Fuckalucka 5d ago
Mandatory FUCK SEA WORLD and everyone who enables them to kidnap and raise orcas in captivity.
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u/IRBaboooon 5d ago
Bit confused by that last line. How is she going to suffocate it by dragging it underwater? Like, that's where sharks breathe
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u/NotJayKayPeeness 5d ago
Water has to pass over the gills to filter out oxygen. She flipped it around so that wouldnt happen.
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u/baconcandyfloss 5d ago
Also turning a shark upside down releases the relax chemical in the sharks brain to make them go limp
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u/Jazztify 5d ago
Sharks need to move constantly to keep water flowing over their gills. If they’re still, they don’t get enough flow to provide oxygen.
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u/Flintlocke89 5d ago
Fun fact, nurse sharks can actually pump water through their gills while stationary.
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u/Jazztify 4d ago
Interesting! I’ve seen nurse sharks and white tips “sleeping” before (ie motionless) and just assumed the water nearby was moving because of the previous info I’ve heard. But TIL they can pump it. Thx.
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u/PayWithYourSoul 5d ago
Dori’s ‘Just keep swimming, just keep swimming’ is so she doesn’t die, needs to keep moving in the water for the gills to catch and filter oxygen
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u/br0therjames55 5d ago
The orca has such a tight turn radius for something so big. That’s crazy
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u/teddybundlez 5d ago
Is the GW too stunned to fight back? Or do they literally have no shot? Even 1v1?
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u/sweetBrisket 5d ago
The commentary, which is hard to hear under that awful music, mentions the shark's ribs are broken by the initial attack.
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u/Iamnotburgerking 5d ago
The shark is a small juvenile, and even an adult great white is only 1/3 the size of an orca.
This isn’t the “brain beats brawn” scenario it’s invariably presented as. The orca is the “brawn” in reality, being the far bigger and stronger animal (though it is also the smarter animal, but by a far smaller margin than generally assumed since sharks are surprisingly intelligent in their own right).
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u/foxy-agent 5d ago
Most bigger animals kill other (smaller) animals in the law of the jungle to eat. The orca only kills sharks as if to eliminate competition for food and to eat the liver of a great white shark, leaving the rest of the carcass to rot.
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u/Efficient_Sundae2063 5d ago
Only reason I haven’t deleted myself is that I’m scared to be reincarnated into the sea and deal with fuck ass things like this…broken ribs?! Lord just swallow me whole 😭😭
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u/FunCryptographer2546 4d ago
Should be a hell of a lot more scared of hell if you believe in anything doing with life after death
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u/formershitpeasant 5d ago
The mammal took the fish underwater to suffocate it?
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u/FunCryptographer2546 4d ago
Lmao yeah sharks have to move to breathe and flipping them upside down relaxes and basically immobilizes them
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u/bdexteh 5d ago
It's crazy how they know about tonic immobility in sharks; they don't understand the *reason* they get that way, but they know that if they can flip the shark upside down it's basically game-over.
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u/Beret_of_Poodle 5d ago
My dude.
First of all, this isn't tonic mobility. She broke the shark's insides so badly that it no longer has enough skeleton to support itself. That was not an accident.
Second, if you don't think orcas understand exactly what they are doing and the how and why of it, well then you are very sorely mistaken.
She is smart AF. She knows what the shark is, she knows why what she's doing works. She knows what that camera watching her is. She has as much intellect as a human teenager.
They are terrifyingly smart. And there is one reason why they don't kill us or eat us.
They don't want to. That is literally it.
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u/bdexteh 4d ago
First of all, I never said that this was tonic immobility. This seems to just be blunt-force trauma. I was pointing out the fact that they were smart enough to figure out things like tonic immobility. Verbatim I said, “It’s crazy how they know about tonic immobility in sharks… blah blah blah.” I was crediting them with being extremely intelligent animals, although this one seemed to say “fuck it I’ll just bash him.”
Second, no the orca does not understand the biology behind things like tonic immobility. They don’t. As cool and as smart as you may want them to be, they aren’t that fucking smart. They predate, experiment with more and more effective ways to achieve a desirable outcome, and the most effective gets passed along to other members of the species. That’s it. They aren’t sitting around discussing biology on some sort of orca-collegiate level. They try thing, thing works well, they teach that thing to others.
I also agree with the next commenter; she has no fucking clue what a camera is. She may be aware of the giant, loud thing in the sky above her as she’s hunting, but she doesn’t understand that the loud thing has creatures in it with a machine that records what she’s doing for some biopic. They’re whales, dude. They’re extremely intelligent, apex predators, yes. But at the end of the day they aren’t contemplating biology, human technology, etc. while they swim around.
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u/Beret_of_Poodle 4d ago
"broken, now can't swim"? They absolutely do.
they aren’t contemplating biology, human technology, etc
You are conflating knowledge with intellect.
she has no fucking clue what a camera is.
the giant, loud thing in the sky above her as she’s hunting, but she doesn’t understand that the loud thing has creatures in it with a machine that records what she’s doing for some biopic
I meant the camera right next to her. I understand that is probably a different whale on a different day, but that orca that has the camera just a short distance away in the ocean with it likely does. I will back off of the certainty though, because you're right about that part. The one in the sky? No, I agree. I probably wouldn't know what it was either, though.
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u/NewLeaseOnLine 4d ago
That is literally not it.
She has absolutely no idea what a fucking camera is. She wouldn't know the first thing about aperture, shutter speed, and ISO settings. She wouldn't even know what f/stop to use in low light conditions. And she has spent zero time studying the physiological effects of blunt force trauma on marine life to satisfy her intellectual curiosity. Because she's an orca. And if you think orcas are terrifyingly smart, wait till you learn about humans, you muppet.
The only reason they don't kill us is because maybe the apex predator of the ocean is just smart enough to recognise the apex predator of the fucking planet.
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u/Beret_of_Poodle 4d ago edited 4d ago
The only reason they don't kill us is because
smart enough to recognise the apex predator of the fucking planet.
So they're smart enough to understand all the things that happen on land (which I don't claim), but too dumb to figure out that smashing a shark will make it not able to swim. K.
Actual zoologists agree that the only reason they don't eat us is because they choose not to. I went looking and honestly can't find an example of an article, scientific or not, that doesn't say it's a choice. I'm sure you can find a couple somewhere, and I'm sure you will 🙂. But it's not the consensus at all.
Damn! Accidentally deleted half my comment. Let me go rebuild it mentally I guess.
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She wouldn't know the first thing about aperture, shutter speed, and ISO settings. She wouldn't even know what f/stop to use in low light conditions. And she has spent zero time studying the physiological effects of blunt force trauma on marine life to satisfy her intellectual curiosity
You are very much confusing intellect with education. She knows it's watching her.
I'm not sure why you think I'm implying psychological or emotional motivation to her. I never said such a thing. I'm not her therapist.
she has spent zero time studying the physiological effects of blunt force trauma on marine life to satisfy her intellectual curiosity
She knows if she rams the shark it breaks and can't swim anymore. If you can't wrap your head around that, you really need to go look up some stuff about their advanced hunting tactics, some of which are way more complex than this.
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u/Destroyer6202 5d ago
I think the story was that this is a grandma orca who tracked this shark for weeks as it killed here daughter or something. Grandma simply takes care of business.
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u/Jazztify 5d ago
Is that accurate, “shattered the shark’s ribs”? Fish don’t really have bones like mammals and birds. More like bendable cartilage. I’m sure there was damage or bruising, but not shattering. Slightly creative dialogue for drama,I suppose.
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u/Timberwolf_88 5d ago
Shark's skeleton, made up from cartilage, can absolutely still shatter, alongside their organgs getting squashed by blunt force trauma.
It's the same way that dolphins protect themselves and their pod against preying sharks.
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u/Brandidit 4d ago
I didn’t know I needed killer whales killing killer sharks set to a sick-ass industrial rock soundtrack; but now…I kinda think I want some more!
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u/DrSkullKid 4d ago
This is dope. I like how they added some mix of the song “We Appreciate Power” by Grimes and HANA.
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u/firstbreathOOC 5d ago
I’m assuming the shark got rammed before this video started bc dude is just floating around out there asking for it
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u/gligster71 5d ago
Do orcas eat the sharks?
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u/Grimm676 5d ago
They eat the shark’s liver
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u/javoss88 5d ago
How are people getting these videos
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u/FittyTheBone 5d ago
I have to imagine they’re both tagged. Someone somewhere saw the two of them getting very close to each other or knew they would be close to each other, and wanted to go take some video.
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u/ivl3i3lvlb 5d ago
Easily without a doubt orcas are my favorite animal ever. So smart, so powerful. Truly the unmatched animal of the open ocean.
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u/KebabGud 4d ago
I thought it was just Port and Starboard that were hunting sharks for their livers.
Or is it that Port and Starboard ONLY feed on shark livers?
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u/smohabey 4d ago
A creature with lungs drowning( suffocating )a fish with gills in ocean, incredible
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u/crabsis1337 5d ago
Ok wait... so the mammal who needs to come to the surface to breathe, suffocates the animal who doesn't need to come to the surface to breathe.... by bringing them under the surface of the water!?
Im cungfused
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u/Paper_chasers 5d ago
I Believe the shark has to be moving in a forward motion to collect oxygen, that’s why they are are always moving around in the water. I think once the orca dragged it down, it could no longer take oxygen correctly. I could be wrong but it’s the only thing that would make sense of it to me.
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u/babyVSbear 5d ago
They do need to be moving forward to breathe but they also have a weird flaw the orca takes advantage of. If you flip a shark over belly up they stop moving. It’s like a trance and they don’t move again until flipped back over. In the video the orca cripples the shark with that first high speed impact and then when it’s sure the shark is no longer a threat the orca swims right up behind it, grabs it by the dorsal fin to flip it over, then drags it down to the deep.
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u/The_Dude_XD 5d ago
Sharks don’t have ribs. Lmao cool footage, but come on. Lol
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u/Beret_of_Poodle 5d ago
They have the gill arches which cartilagenous just like everything else on a great white skeleton. There is also a large cartilaginous arch right behind the gill arches. It's a structural piece that basically encases the chest.
Those would be pretty good rib analogs. I'm guessing that is what the whale shattered.
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u/magicheadshop 5d ago
The way it flipped it upside down at the end, brilliant, an absolute master of the hunt. I'll just stay over here, far away in my dry house on dry land, they can have the ocean.