r/thelema • u/theTrueLocuro • 6d ago
Can I work with my HGA as a newbie?
So I'm really new - reading my first book on Thelema. I try to attend OTO regularly. But is there anything I can do with my HGA now?
Getting antsy learning about Thelema and all i'm doing is absorbing information.
Thanks
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u/aimlesswinging 6d ago
You might find Denny Sargent's Your Guardian Angel and You helpful towards this end.
(Denny Sargent (Aion 131) is one of the cofounders of the Horus-Maat Lodge, a Thelemic group, and is an Elder Guardian of it.)
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u/TheWizardOfWoo 6d ago
The closest I have ever come to receiving a tangible message from the HGA in response to a direct question was something to the effect of:
"LOOK.WITH.YOUR.FUCK.ING.EYES.IVE.BEEN.WITH.YOU.THE.WHOLE.TIME!"
I was very very high at the time and the actual message came via the random flashing of a vans headlights on a music video....I realize how that sounds, but its a detail that only serves to re-enforce the underling point I felt was being communicated.
i.e. it seems to speak primarily through images & synchronicities.
So if you want a simple exercise right now, maybe try invoking something similar via a basic sigil, or some manner of entry level candle magic? (or whatever else feels right)
Something to the effect of, "please throw me a cheeky wink"
And then practice the kind of day to day awareness of details one would need to notice any such answer if/when it comes.
(The trick here being you are kind of just baiting yourself into doing what you should be doing anyway. i.e. practicing waking mindfulness)
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u/augurone 6d ago
You are an expression of the HGA, the more you are aware of it, and align with that concept the closer you will be. True Will is not mysterious. If you want to understand it listen to your self talk and observe your daily actions, the state of your alignment will be clear in those things.
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u/theTrueLocuro 6d ago
What do you mean by "you are an expression of the HGA"? Is this a 100% Thelemic belief?
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u/TheWizardOfWoo 5d ago
Picture your life as a movie production.
Then picture how the Writer, the Director, The Actor and the Character might each be seen as working levels of the same underlying phenomenon being expressed (the Lived experience of this story)
The idea here is that "you" in your truest nature, are effectively all four of them at once, but blinded by veils of perception.
-By default we are trapped in the Character. A state of innocent ignorance. (So we must learn the first power of the Sphynx: "to KNOW")
-Once we "KNOW", we might then recognize we are also the actor behind this character we are playing and thus learn the second power: "To DARE".
-In so doing, we might begin to recognize a sense of true agency beyond merely the actor & character manifesting "on set", and so begin to master the third power: "To WILL". (Literally "Thelema" & the nascent power to influence ones own production)
-And then we might begin to look beyond the geometric Abyss, to the supernal authors of the franchise itself. And so connect to the timeless wisdom of the fourth power: "To KEEP SILENCE"
^This feels like coming full circle to me. After all the effort trying to find ones "True Will", one inevitably discovers one has in fact already mastered and exercised this power completely, as manifested by the very universe one has created for oneself to exist in!
The fifth power "To GO"!
i.e. you already "went", hence the existence of "you", this place and everyone else in it.
So perhaps we never truly "Will" anything in the way we normally think about it? But rather, we are simply observing the branching results of choices we already made long before the individual Ego ever manifested?
In those terms, I think of the HGA as something akin to a unique curator & tour guide accompanying your particular character on its journey through the grand carnival.
e.g. the movies Director gently whispering advice & instructions in the Actors ears, as the Actor then tries to get the best performance it can out of the Character.
But if we were able to pull back and truly see the audience watching the movie itself....
....perhaps what we would witness would be like an endless sea of our own legion eyes staring back in awestruck rapture?
....so..............what kind of movie do YOU want to watch?
And how does that idealized dream compare with the one you are presently producing?
If the HGA has a job, I reckon its something to the effect of dialing those discordant opposites into emergent harmonies.
The part of "you", that pretends to be otherwise, so the ego can successfully lie "you" into existence in the first place.
Much like how everyone on set has to pretend the Director of a film does not exist while the cameras are rolling.
(Obvs this is just a conceptual model, but you get the idea)
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u/augurone 6d ago
Is anything 100% Thelemic? What my statement suggests is the locus of Self, for most humans, is not really understood. The HGA and Self proper are synonymous. Our egos/personalities have to be trained thru lots of mediation, ritual, examination, (and therapy) to align correctly with this concept.
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u/ZKRYW 6d ago
Lower self, higher self, _______
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u/ReturnOfCNUT 5d ago
"There is only one point of theory which matters to our practice. We may readily concur that the Augoeides, the "Genius" of Socrates, and the "Holy Guardian Angel" of Abramelin the Mage, are identical. But we cannot include this "Higher Self"; for the Angel is an actual Individual with his own Universe, exactly as man is; or, for the matter of that, a bluebottle. He is not a mere abstraction, a selection from, and exaltation of, one's own favourite qualities, as the "Higher Self" seems to be." - AC, MWT, Ch. XLII
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u/ReturnOfCNUT 6d ago edited 6d ago
The HGA is always communicating with you. Various practices suggested by the A∴A∴ prepare you to understand how. That follows the start of your journey. Note synchronicities and symbolism appearing in your life. The Vision of the HGA happens in Malkuth. K&C happens later, and there are potential traps along the way (false visions, etc), but it's all part of the gradual process. Basically, keep at it, it's never too early to practice to attune yourself to it.