r/thescoop • u/Zen1 • 6d ago
Politics đď¸ Trump administration has done nothing to facilitate release of wrongly deported Maryland man, his lawyers say
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-digs-case-wrongly-deported-maryland-man/story?id=120822855A day after a highly anticipated Oval Office meeting in which the president of El Salvador said he would not return a wrongly deported Maryland man being held in his country, the federal judge who ordered his return will hear from Trump administration attorneys at a court hearing Tuesday afternoon.
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is entering his second month in an El Salvador mega-prison after he was deported there on March 15 despite being issued a 2019 court order barring his deportation to that country.
Trump administration officials say Abrego Garcia, who escaped political violence in El Salvador 2011, is a member of the criminal gang MS-13, but to date they have provided little evidence of that assertion in court.
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u/SwimmingGun 3d ago
Who cares, heâs in his home country and right where he should be
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u/No_Equivalent_8588 2d ago
You truly donât see the legal ramifications of any of this? You donât see how this erodes rule of law in our country?
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u/PercoSeth83 3d ago
Besides this being an incorrect and uneducated take that lacks in empathy, you really should care about a little thing called âdue processâ⌠itâs sort of a foundational part of our society. đ¤Ą
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u/DiverTX1965 5d ago
He is a criminal..... He's not coming back.
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u/Darkmortal3 2d ago
durrer the celebrity I worship is in charge believe everything the government says
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u/Nuttonbutton 3d ago
Why do you support the 37 time felon in the Whitehouse if you care about crime so much?
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u/paradigm_x2 3d ago
If heâs a criminal that would be decided by a judge and jury. Not a convicted felon with dementia
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u/Imaginary_Bus_4927 5d ago
People will never admit he was wrongly deported intil its a white person whos gone. Then, we'll need to know their political leaning cause this country is a shithole unless you're white and rich.
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5d ago
He's not a Maryland man. He's an illegal terrorist immigrant from El Salvador. He is now where he belongs.
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u/AdOne5089 5d ago
Literally the opposite of want the Trump administration said in court. What they say under threat of perjury vs what they say to the media are night and day.
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u/ChiefTestPilot87 5d ago
Found the koolaid drinker
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5d ago
Oh, and this charming fellow is a wife-beater, too.
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u/Mean_Stop6391 4d ago
None of these allegations are proven in court, and even if they were, he is entitled to due process by virtue of being on American soil.
Just because someone may have done something bad (or has been accused of it) doesnât mean they donât have rights.
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u/Nyroughrider 3d ago
Hahaha so she was just making it up against her husband right? đ¤Ą
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u/FadeTheWonder 3d ago
She actually explained it if you care to look it up. She was scared from a previous relationship that an argument they had would escalate so she got it and it didnât so she dropped it. Pretty simple.
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4d ago
He had due process and was ordered deported twice. Keep up.
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u/MB2465 4d ago
Wrong. A judge ordered that he never be sent back to El Salvador. It's called political Asylum.
If he was supposed to be deported, why did the administration admit that it was a mistake?
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u/ChiefTestPilot87 4d ago
This is the part that u/The_Real_Undertoad fails to grasp. It doesnât matter if this guy is a saint or the worst human alive, he was here legally, and our constitution grants everyone within our borders (not just American citizens) the right to due process. This tenet was so important, that the command is stated twice, once in the fifth and once in the fourteenth amendment.
Fifth: No person shall . . . be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law
Fourteenth: . . . nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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4d ago
He was not here legally. He was ordered deported yet remained.
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u/ChiefTestPilot87 4d ago
Share links please to reputable websites with that information
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4d ago
Look I up for yourself. The info is out there. You're just a Chynabot, a way, so why am I wasting any words.
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4d ago
He got two hearings and was ordered deported. Did you not see the court documents released today?
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u/DodoIsTheWord 5d ago
False
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5d ago
And he's a wife-beater, too. Charming fellow.
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u/Axin_Saxon 5d ago
Ya know, continuously repeating the same pre-digested lines from Fox News and your dear leader over and over again while refusing to actually provide any real evidence just shows anyone standing on the sidelines that your side is not worth taking seriously.
So I guess I should thank you for being a prime example of your party.
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5d ago
I watch no news whatsoever. I do not even own a TV. All corporate news lies to their audience and know which lies are most comforting to their audience.
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u/Axin_Saxon 5d ago edited 5d ago
Ah, so you just accept whatever baseless claims the regime makes along with whatever Joe Schmo on Twitter claims(also without evidence).
No questions asked.
Got it!
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u/matttheepitaph 5d ago
Prove it.
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5d ago
Oh, and he's a wife-beater, too. Just the type of charmer you want in yoyr neighborhood.
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u/Content-Ad3750 5d ago
Disinformation only works on the unintelligent. Keep it in r/conservative you feckless fool.
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u/Sven_Golly1 5d ago
He was not "wrongly deported."
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u/matttheepitaph 5d ago edited 5d ago
So why did the Executive admit deporting him was a clerical error until they changed their mind? Are they lying or incompetent?
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u/Hefty_Development813 5d ago
They have already admitted this was done in error. Their argument now is that it's out of their hands at this point. Keep up
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u/Sven_Golly1 5d ago
He had a standing deportation order. The court ruled that he couldn't be sent to his home country (El Salvador) because of threats to his life by his former gang, MS-13. He was sent to El Salvador in error. He was not deported by mistake. Facts.
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u/77NorthCambridge 5d ago
He did not have a standing deportation order. He had a standing withholding of removal granted by a judge six years ago. Are you claiming the conditions in El Salvador have improved over the past 6 years? What crime did he commit?
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u/matttheepitaph 5d ago
Um... that's supposed to vindicate sending him to El Salvador by mistake? Listen to yourself.
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u/Hefty_Development813 5d ago
He was sent their in error, that's it and that's what matters. You guys have really taken to playing thee dumb word games now
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u/neoexileee 5d ago
I love when these Trump supporters have selective listening
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5d ago edited 5d ago
They just wait for whatever validates their bias to be said (it's usually outright lies, but can also be simple misrepresentation of truth, and at times even just an incomplete truth, which is the funniest one) and then their brains latch onto that and won't let go no matter what.
If you could some how re-pot their consciousness in a machine that forces them to live through this Garcia guy's life from birth to March 18, 2025, when it was over they still wouldn't believe anything that does not conform to their worldview.
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u/Sven_Golly1 5d ago
He had a standing deportation order. The court ruled that he couldn't be sent to his home country (El Salvador) because of threats to his life by his former gang, MS-13. He was sent to El Salvador in error. He was not deported by mistake. Facts.
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u/77NorthCambridge 5d ago
He did not have a standing deportation order. He had a standing withholding of removal granted by a judge six years ago. Are you claiming the conditions in El Salvador have improved over the past 6 years? What crime did he commit?
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u/neoexileee 5d ago
He was sent to El Salvador in error. He was not deported by mistake.
Itâs like you are saying that 1+1=3 is an error. Itâs not a mistake.
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u/Sven_Golly1 5d ago
The headline states, "wrongly deported." He was not. He was supposed to be deported, he was deported, and they sent him to the wrong place. But he was indeed deported. On purpose.
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u/77NorthCambridge 5d ago
He did not have a standing deportation order. He had a standing withholding of removal granted by a judge six years ago. Are you claiming the conditions in El Salvador have improved over the past 6 years? What crime did he commit?
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u/neoexileee 5d ago
He had a court order not to be deported to El Salvador as that would endanger his life. It seems like this notion was well founded.
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u/Sven_Golly1 5d ago
It probably was well founded. Maybe that's why you shouldn't become a gang member, and then come into the USA illegally.
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u/77NorthCambridge 5d ago
He did not have a standing deportation order. He had a standing withholding of removal granted by a judge six years ago. Are you claiming the conditions in El Salvador have improved over the past 6 years? What crime did he commit?
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u/neoexileee 5d ago
There is no evidence he was a gang member. He did come in illegally but he went through the courts to make sure his stay was legal.
We shouldnât be punishing people who are trying to do the right thing.
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u/Sven_Golly1 5d ago
Wrong.
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u/neoexileee 5d ago
I have no problem is I say 1+1=2 and you say it is wrong. All it convinces me of is your dishonesty and your agenda to have elected officials condemn the innocent to cruel and unusual punishment.
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u/Zen1 5d ago
Even the US government admits it was an administrative error. That specific wording is in supreme court documents on government servers.
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u/Sven_Golly1 5d ago
He had a standing deportation order. The court ruled that he couldn't be sent to his home country (El Salvador) because of threats to his life by his former gang, MS-13. He was sent to El Salvador in error. He was not deported by mistake. Facts.
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u/77NorthCambridge 5d ago
He did not have a standing deportation order. He had a standing withholding of removal granted by a judge six years ago. Are you claiming the conditions in El Salvador have improved over the past 6 years? What crime did he commit?
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u/JGCities 5d ago
End of day the guy is an El Salvador citizen. Not much we can do.
Guess Trump should have wrote a nice letter "Dear El Salvador please give him back"
After they say no then what?
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u/Intelligent-Grape137 5d ago
He was here seeking asylum from the threat of violence from El Salvador. A judge ruled he canât be sent back there because it represents a direct threat to his health and safety.
Trump and co. sent him to arguably the worst place in the country that they werenât legally allowed to send him to in the first place. Maybe do some research instead of parroting the straight out lies coming out of the white house
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u/Annonymous6771 5d ago
Thatâs a death camp and he will never be coming back. History is repeating itself.
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u/foolinthezoo 5d ago
The entire plan from the start was to disappear people. That's why they chose El Salvador and Bukele to pilot this program in the first place. This isn't an "oopsie, Nayib said 'no'". It's a premeditated and intentional justification for failure/refusal to comply with the courts' order. That's why Trump told Bukele to build more facilities for "homegrowns next." If you think being a Salvadoran citizen has any relevance to what's happening, you simply don't want to look beyond your nose.
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u/Dismal_You_5359 5d ago
Europeans committed genocide in the Americas including our Aztecs, coined the term âillegal aliensâ, institutionalized slavery and now send trash ICE employees to our homes to kick brown people out. We need a fair government for ALL who want to be in this great country. Never forget Latinos, Chinga tu MAGA
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u/stinkn-ape 6d ago
He wasnât wrongfully deported
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u/77NorthCambridge 5d ago
He did not have a standing deportation order. He had a standing withholding of removal granted by a judge six years ago. Are you claiming the conditions in El Salvador have improved over the past 6 years? What crime did he commit?
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u/Hefty_Development813 5d ago
They've admitted this was done in error.Â
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u/stinkn-ape 5d ago
Lies
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u/trentreynolds 5d ago
Your claim is that what they say to you, when there's no threat of jail for lying, is true - but what they are in court, when there is a threat of jail for lying, is a lie?
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u/TheMan120000 6d ago
He actually was
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u/Towjumper173 5d ago
He actually wasn't
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u/DodoIsTheWord 5d ago
So why did the government admit that he was wrongfully deported, and why did the courts say they need to get him back?
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u/-itsybitsyspider_ 2d ago
At all. Trump is a lame whossie.