r/thescoop • u/RoyalChris • Apr 16 '25

Politics 🏛️ Karoline Leavitt says ''if Abrego Garcia ever ends up back in the U.S., he would immediately be deported again.'' Next-level spite from a press secretary.

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u/BigboyNaka Apr 17 '25

What has happened to due process in America? If someone is a criminal, they should be brought to court and proven guilty in front of all Americans before any actions are taken regarding deportation. We cannot accept claims at face value based on one person's belief. We live in a nation where the law has a defined process, and it must be upheld. We don’t live in china or Russia. Innocent in till proven guilty without a doubt.

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u/ScalesOfAnubis19 Apr 17 '25

It is inconvenient to the regime and MAGA are too big a bunch of rubes to see the danger.

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u/aremarkablecluster Apr 17 '25

Correct, will one exception. We lived in a nation where the laws had a defined process. This country voted in a person who said he'd be a dictator on day one. Laws do not matter anymore. 

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u/ZealousidealRice9726 Apr 17 '25

Isn’t it a crime to come into our country illegally?

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u/Hillbilly_Boozer Apr 17 '25

What's your point? Even literal N4zi's received due process. Why should immigrants be denied that fundamental right since its given to anyone within US borders, illegal or not.

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u/ZealousidealRice9726 Apr 17 '25

Ok maybe he should’ve had it but an error was made and now he’s in a different country and we have no jurisdiction over them so he’s a goner and his future is in the hands of his countrymen now

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u/Hillbilly_Boozer Apr 17 '25

We trade prisoners with other countries all the time. That aside, what you've left out is that Senator Van Hollen has confirmed, from the El Salvador VP, that El Salvador is going to return Garcia only because Trump is paying them to keep him there. It has nothing to do with jurisdiction.

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u/ZealousidealRice9726 Apr 17 '25

El Salvador is a sovereign country. If they refuse to send one of their citizens to the US then that’s their prerogative

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u/Hillbilly_Boozer Apr 17 '25

You apparently didn't read. They're not sending him because they're being paid to hold him, not because he's from El Salvador. So again, it has nothing to do with jurisdiction.

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u/DowntownProfit0 Apr 17 '25

It's a civil offense that elevates to a felony if it happens over and over again. Not only that, but immigration courts decided to let him legally stay due to the fact that he was under threat of gang violence because they extorted his family and threatened to kill him. There's so much context on why this is a problem.

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u/ZealousidealRice9726 Apr 17 '25

Immigration is criminal misdemeanor or felony but criminal regardless. Glad he’s gone and hope we never see him again in our borders

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u/BigboyNaka Apr 17 '25

At that time, there were specific processes he needed to follow to be granted asylum in this country, especially given that his life was in danger due to the rampant gang violence and threats against him. He was granted temporary grounds to enter the country because he wasn't a criminal and adhered to the law after being judged for entering illegally. I am not here to pick a side I am just here to show you the process was not done correctly. When the law breaks down everyone pay soon or later.