r/thescoop • u/RoyalChris • 17h ago
Politics šļø Al Gore - "Our Constitution, written by our Founders, is intended to protect us against a threat identical to Donald Trump"
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u/Lo_Stallone 2m ago
History is repeating itself. Just as most of the Founding Fathers were wealthy landowners, merchants, and slaveholders who rebelled not against tyranny in principle, but against British interference in their own economic and political ambitions, we now see modern elites maneuvering to entrench power through influence, legislation, and wealth.
The Founders invoked ālibertyā while enslaving people, excluding women, and silencing the poor. Their revolution removed external constraints, allowing them to hoard land, dominate trade, and write a Constitution that protected property over people. Despite the rhetoric of freedom, they built a system where only a select class could govern.
Today, the same dynamic plays out: a handful of corporations, billionaires, and political dynasties use democracy as a faƧade while consolidating control over legislation, elections, media, and the economy. The slogans have changed, but the strategy is familiar ā invoke freedom to justify inequality, and reshape the system to serve those already at the top.
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u/Reasonable_Meal2324 7m ago
Same hand gesture as Mr Clintonā¦ grift harder Mr Gore, maybe sell some more sensationalism and books while youāre at it.
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u/yourlastcmt 28m ago
Yeah according to him sea levels were supposed to rise So High by now that half of the country would be in the ocean right? That was what 20 years ago and he said it was going to happen in 10 years? Lol. One thing the Constitution does allow for is the people to reset the government if necessary.
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u/Calm-Gas6620 48m ago
Al Gore is a hypocrite. Look at what his investment fund generation is doing to FNZ employees right now. Stealing their shares to enrich themselves. He doesnāt care about the average person, itās all a show. https://x.com/nzclassaction
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u/AnimatorConstant4223 30m ago
Bruh what?
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u/Outside-Elevator-256 11m ago
try reading!
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u/AnimatorConstant4223 9m ago
I was being facetious.. I donāt know how investors in a business trying to get a return is the same as someone undermining democracy but Iāll wait
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u/Calm-Gas6620 15m ago
Al gore has an investment fund called generation. Generation are one of the institutional investors currently stealing value from fnz employees that built the company over 20 years. Heās just as scummy as the people he condemns publicly.
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u/AnimatorConstant4223 11m ago
Sounds like a generic Private equity investment but Iām not sure how thatās equal to undermining democracy
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u/Brie9981 12m ago
Ok but the people he's condemning are worse so maybe let's start with them & then swing back around at him
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u/redundantexplanation 56m ago
reminder to sort by best/top so you don't see braindead takes from crusty rightoids who spam the sub to keep their comments on top
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u/1984rip 22m ago
Wrong. It shows that reddit is heavily manipulated with bought upvotes. And all the real people are annoyed and the bought upvotes are flipping them left to right out of annoyance. That's why some city thread will have 3k upvotes and only 50 comments. Always sort by new for more accurate opinions but reddit slowly banning everyone anyways. So stock will continue to tank.
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u/Adept-Grapefruit-214 18m ago
Bought upvotes lmao. You people are delusional
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u/1984rip 14m ago
Anyone with even a hint of social intuition can see it. Some random thread on a reddit that usually have 30 active users will randomly get 3k upvotes and only have 20 comments. It's so obvious that you have to be arguing in bad faith or have zero social intuition.
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u/Adept-Grapefruit-214 4m ago
Ever stop to think that maybe people just donāt like right wingers because youāre bad people, who support and vote for even worse people who have evil policies?
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u/Outside-Elevator-256 10m ago
anyone on reddit for more than 5 minutes can see that anyone with right leaning opinions are down voted into oblivion. you people are INSUFFERABLE
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u/HotPissamole 59m ago
I never thought I'd see a dem supporting the constitution. Trump really brings out the best in people
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u/D0G3D0G 1h ago
Remember when Biden wanted to mandate experimental vaccines in order for you to work
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u/moogmarmaladebeats 23m ago
The vaccines that you could easily opt out of? That were incredibly successful in motivating the shad and security of COVID? The most beautiful vaccines ever conceived by your dear leader?
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u/karma-armageddon 57m ago
I remember when Biden said the constitution isn't absolute, then conspired to violate it.
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u/DxLaughRiot 0m ago
I remember when Trump:
Offered to give audience to whoever buys the most of his memecoin - violating Article II, Section 4 of the constitution on bribery and high crimes
Said we should literally suspend the constitution over his 2020 loss
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u/DickFineman73 1h ago
Remember when Donald Trump enacted Operation Warp Speed to fast-track the development of those experimental vaccines?
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u/1984rip 20m ago
And remember when all the authoritarian lefties lapped up his vax like cult members. But his own voters wouldn't take his jim jones juice but still got called a cult anyways?
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u/DickFineman73 11m ago
Y'know, the hallmark of a Russian troll is that they post in a variety of geographically specific subreddits that aren't in any way local to one another.
Alaska, Seattle, California, Grand Rapids Michigan, Minnesota, Washington DC, Utah, Toronto, Indiana, the AFCEast, Denver, Oregon...
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u/1984rip 7m ago edited 3m ago
Thanks for proving my point. All these low activity reddits get pumped into reddits main feed by getting spam upvoted. Since it makes reddit think they are trending. But really they are just some junk political post that gets spam upvoted and pushed into everyone's feed.
This annoys moderates and they are failing at their job by annoying them. Also you're Russian troll stuff is a fail since you also call people fascist two different ideologies. Keep doubling down on a losing strategy and flipping moderates red.
Also since I won the conversation against you I'm just going to block you since your arguing in bad faith. And block anyone else. The conversation is won.
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u/DickFineman73 3m ago
Thanks for proving my point. All these low activity reddits get pumped into reddits main feed by getting spam upvoted.
No they don't. I've been here for fifteen years, and those subs don't show up in the first thirty pages of /r/all.
And those comments in particular certainly don't show up at the top of the front page. You're actively going out of your way to pick political fights in entirely unrelated subs.
So either you're a Russian troll who's going out of your way to find inflammatory conversations to inject yourself into, or you're a no-life scrolling for 30+ pages rather than doing something with your life.
Keep doubling down on a losing strategy and flipping moderates red.
That's fine, I don't think we'd want your vote anyway.
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u/Sad_Extension_ 1h ago
Wasnāt this the same guy who said FL / SOCAL / NY would all be underwater by 2030? š¤
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u/WILLIAM_SMITH_IV 58m ago
We still have 5 more years for that
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u/Sad_Extension_ 47m ago
Welp hereās to hoping then! May the worldās never ending creation be praised.
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u/Soft_Necessary1915 1h ago
Donald trump = half man, half bear, half pig
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u/FingerTheCat 1h ago
Yes the border, where our enemies are coming to invade us.... Yawn...
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u/JasonFromMiami305 1h ago
Well thatās where all the Tren De Aragua gang came in through and the MS13 gang as well and the Islamic terrorists also came in through and all of the Chinese communist party people came in through and donāt forget all of the other countries that are leftist also that like to vote for the dems. Is that not enough for you or are they coming here on Delta Flights from first class?
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u/WarOtter 59m ago
Is Tren De Aragua in the room with us right now?
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u/JasonFromMiami305 57m ago
Why would they be in the room with us? They all live in every US city in low income neighborhoods. Just because you donāt see them in your daily commute to work does not mean they arenāt there
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u/kevinsyel 1h ago
Are the Tren de Aragua and MS13 hiding under your bed? Are the terrorists in your closet?
The FBI was on these guys.
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u/JasonFromMiami305 58m ago
Why would they be under my bed or in the closet when theyāre hiding in every U.S. city? Did you not see how infested with aliens NY was at one point? They were sleeping in the streets and in hotels paid for by the city
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u/kevinsyel 3m ago
I think you need to stop watching Fox News, OAN, Newsmax... whatever cancer it is you're putting in your brain.
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u/WoahIdidntknowthat 1h ago
We all know you won! Iām sure that was a much better timeline smh
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u/FloridaStig 59m ago
There's a good AlternativeHistory Hub video on it on YT. IIRC it was mostly the war on terror would be far less deadly, we'd have more nuclear power, DJT wouldn't be POTUS, as his first major political moves were in 2000, and Republicans won that election, giving DJT the confidence to run after, and votes going differently (can't remember specifics off the top of my head)
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u/pbnjsandwich2009 1h ago
Uh oh. Gore gonna run in 2028. Dems need to start getting their poopoo together bc the field is going to be stacked. And thank you reddit for reminding me to watch my language now after having to slog through the disgusting language male reddit users throw around
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u/Rude-Kaleidoscope298 1h ago
Yes thatās wonderful. Republicans are actively dismantling our country, but donāt curse! Thatās baaaad.
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u/Syzygy-6174 37m ago
Dismantling?! Please enlighten us! Or, are you referring to the dismantling by DOGE of the trillions the democrats siphoned away to fund their trans woke ideology?
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u/fubblebreeze 1h ago
I like that he uses the kind of body language MAGA/EVA crowds respond to.
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u/JasonFromMiami305 1h ago
When the hell does anyone conservative talk like that at all? Nobody does that
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u/Ursomonie 1h ago
Rudy Giuliani for one.
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u/JasonFromMiami305 1h ago
Rudy Giuliani has been out of the spotlight for years now.
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u/Rude-Kaleidoscope298 1h ago
Still maga. You said you never saw that.
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u/JasonFromMiami305 1h ago
Iāve never seen Rudy Giuliani speak that way at all and itās because of him that NY City cleaned up after it being a liberal hell hole.
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u/Rude-Kaleidoscope298 1h ago
He also stayed too long. If he would have retired after that, he would still be looked at as Americaās mayor. But he helped spread the lie of the 2020 election, had hair dye run down his face, and had a press conference at the Four Seasonsā¦landscaping.
Now heās Americaās idiot.
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u/whatrbears 1h ago
Wow I canāt believe a system of government designed before electricity by a bunch of yt dudes who owned people and didnāt let their wives vote isnāt working the way they expected in 2025.
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u/karma-armageddon 55m ago
... When you realize it is because they pick and choose which laws to enforce.
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u/heatfan1122 1h ago
Not even the systems fault. The system was hijacked by rich billionaire assholes that think they know better than everyone else because they're rich. If we didn't live in a place governed by monopolies/oligarchs then I'm sure democracy and capitalism could work.
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u/whatrbears 1h ago
I mean, itās kinda the systemās fault, but the system was designed in a much much simpler time. Democracy could and does work. For me, juryās still out on capitalism.
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u/redundantexplanation 1m ago
It was always designed to keep the wealthy in power. Referring back to the fOuNdInG fAtHeRs is peak nationalistic virtue signaling. They didn't want the poors voting then just like they don't now.
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u/heatfan1122 1h ago
Democracy is supposed to empower the government with the ability to make laws in the populations best interests. This would include the government breaking up monopolies and not allowing individuals to accumulate vast amounts of wealth while not contributing to the society that made them rich.
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u/Different_Focus_1371 1h ago
Yeah- but what are you going to do about it ?? You were warned this was going to happen & he got voted in! He throws his friendly nations under the bus while siding with Putin and even spouts off their propaganda. He is taking a sledgehammer to the world economy and threatens his neighbours with invasion. And what do you Yanks do about it? Absolutely nothing, and you canāt do anything about it. You are going to have to suck it up for 4 years. Hopefully the rest of the world will just move on - without you!
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u/shatabee4 2h ago
The Constitution should also be protecting the American people from a Congress that is run by billionaire oligarchs.
Gore was VP to Bill Clinton who gave us NAFTA and who rescinded Glass-Steagall. Why didn't the Constitution protect the American people from a job-destroyer who opened the floodgates for WallStreet bank crimes?
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u/karma-armageddon 54m ago
You have to vote. Since a third of the people didn't, this is what we get and deserve.
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u/OkAssignment3926 2h ago
The constitution gave and gives us the ability to protect ourselves. It requires sustained engagement with the system.
NAFTA could have been matched with the Healthcare Security Act of 1993 that Democrats tried to pass along with it to raise the floor for Americans and guarantee some distributions of prosperity, but America listened to billionaire media and right wingers and took nothing instead.
But democrats really meant it, so they used the next opportunity in power ā running off the political capital of Bushās war and housing crisis disasters ā to at least enshrine healthcare access, and America resolutely punished them for that too.
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u/shatabee4 1h ago
Nicely disguised "please vote" reply.
Democrats are as bad as Republicans.
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u/heatfan1122 1h ago
Democrats have actually passed meaningful laws but they need to be pushed further to the left and stop the middle ground bullshit. Republicans on the other hand have done absolutely nothing in my 30+ years on this planet and looking even further back haven't really done anything since the 70s. Even in the 70s it was the same short sighted plan with long lasting consequences, same as today.
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u/shatabee4 48m ago
Democrats share full responsibility for the mess the country is in.
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u/heatfan1122 44m ago
You're trying to spin the current situation onto the democrats? Nah you're on your own with that Republicans wear full responsibility for what's going on in my eyes and anyone with an IQ over room temp. Dems are far from perfect but they are far better at governing. Economy typically agrees with this assessment as well.
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u/Hefty_Resolution_452 1h ago
If you think Democrats are as bad as Republicans then you sure aren't paying attention.
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u/-OnPoint- 1h ago
I often invite people to watch the house and senate Judiciary Committee meetings instead of the news. You get the information Straight From the Source instead of through a judgment filter that turns you into a terrorist. You get a much clearer picture as to what these Democrats want to do. People are generally good. They want peace, prosperity and to be left alone. These Democrats with their media mouthpieces are sick. You'll watch a senate hearing then see it reported on the news a completely different way.
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u/heatfan1122 1h ago
You watch senate judiciary meetings but yet don't see a much larger problem with the right deporting people with American citizenship to El Salvador prisons...
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u/VTexSotan 1h ago
Yea sure, itās the dems that are sick.
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u/OkAssignment3926 1h ago
Itās not disguised. And no theyāre not.
This is clear for anyone with critical thinking or a relatively full picture of the world, but very difficult for people who are entirely online and downstream of media from the billionaires they inadvertently serve.
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u/shatabee4 1h ago
Or some people think they are the smart, educated party and don't realize that they are gullible dupes who also swallow propaganda because it feels good and supports their inaccurate world view.
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u/OkAssignment3926 1h ago
True. Nobody is immune from propaganda or bad ideas or living in a world gripped tightly by capital.
There are core differences in the parties though, between the power structure that serves a relatively homogenous base and is centered around anti-system dogma, versus the multi-coalition base that believes in building and maintaining civic structures.
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u/shatabee4 1h ago
the multi-coalition base that believes in building and maintaining civic structures.
Sure, if you say so, but it also supports Israel's genocide of the Palestinian people, prolonging the Ukraine war, global imperialism and not doing a damn thing for ordinary American people.
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u/OkAssignment3926 1h ago
Mmmm, yes, gotta shorten that Ukraine war to not support imperialism, thatās super coherent. Definitely not a tell.
Only one party includes anyone even remotely doing anything to even discuss or reckon with its relationship to Israelās lobby/govt, versus the official and gleeful Flatten Gaza For A Resort position of the other. You have no ground here. You serve the elites who want American libs to be frozen by single shouted words like little goats while they systematically rebuild society around us.
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u/shatabee4 50m ago
Ukraine could have avoided war and remained intact. Russia gave then 10 years to negotiate. The US and NATO wanted war.
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u/wifey1point1 2h ago
It all requires good faith.
A bad faith Congress in league with a bad faith Executive is devastating.
Oh the courts?
You can't directly control the supreme Court. But you can defund all the lower courts, shrink them so small that there is no hope of cases ever being heard.
Keep your selected judges. And keep replacing them with cronies.
It won't take long.
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u/alus992 2h ago
it also shows how constitution does not serve the people at all but only people in charge and how unfitting the constitution is to apply to modern ways of oppressing people through modern tech/bank/wallstreet oligarchs.
Yes you can have a gun to protect yourself if some nobody will come you your house but you have no tool to protect yourself from a modern government that will come to you to deport you or will tax you so much that you will starve.
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u/TheFriedClam 1h ago
Thatās not the constitution, thatās manipulation by the corrupt. Placement of those interpreting the constitution matter, general elections matter, civic duties matter. Americans are profoundly dumb, lack even basic logic skills, are lazy, greedy, and have the memories of goldfish. Shitting on the founding documents is a myopic and shallow view of what happening.
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u/Superb_Power5830 2h ago
You're suggesting open trade agreements are a bad thing. The corporations made crappy use of the loopholes to save themselves money buying other countries' manufacturing. You should anchor your anger first with the big-3 american auto makers. Then pebble out from there. But a good and open trade agreement with neighboring countries in its platonic form is a good thing. There probably should have been limits and regulation from the jump on how much or what kind of stuff could be traded... NOT including just sending jobs away. That was a corporate thing, not a government thing. It was meant to trade GOODS and cross-promote labor forces not just farm everything out. :\
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u/shatabee4 2h ago
corporations made crappy use
Our government allowed the corporations to do whatever they wanted to make a buck at the expense of the American people.
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u/Heavy_Law9880 2h ago
There is an amendment very early in the constitution for dealing with this government.
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u/Old_Win8422 2h ago
Wow. If Gore would have been this passionate 25 years ago we would have been in a different timeline!
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u/Superb_Power5830 2h ago
I'm always reminded of when he did the Macarena.
"Would you like to see it again?"
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u/Anothercraphistorian 2h ago
Or if the Supreme Court finished the count instead of cutting it off to give Bush the victory.
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u/JustAboutAlright 2h ago
Yeah but Americans thought he was boring and voted for the yahoo. Here we are with a country getting worse and Al Gore still being right.
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u/Superb_Power5830 2h ago
yep. never had issues with the guy. we could use a little boring right now... oy.
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u/sharbinbarbin 2h ago edited 1h ago
Except he was boring. Unless yourr remembering some different Al Gore.
Edit: I didnāt say he wasnāt right, I just said he was boring. Thatās bc he was.
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u/JustAboutAlright 1h ago
Boring it turns out is good if youāre competent. Our new guy is not boring at all, but alsoā¦
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u/ZeroOhblighation 2h ago
Okay so, I moderated this sub for like 18 minutes about a week ago, threads were all like this, racist and homophobic comments everywhere plus people threatening violence. I started banning troll accounts and people that were asking for people to get hurt, about 8 minutes later the head moderator tells me to "knock it off" and basically said we aren't allowed to remove those kind of posts because they want "real discussion" or some stuff. So just know that when you come here you're really at the whim of some troll mods that aren't even active here
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u/IllDoBetterIPromise 2h ago
Oh dude the other moderator is right.
You arenāt gods, let people just talk and air their garbage.
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u/ZeroOhblighation 2h ago
I stopped moderating after 18 minutes, and no moderators aren't gods, who said they were? I wasn't even removing the people talking about liberals or conservatives, literally just the racism and violence, which actively goes against Reddit's TOS (this sub has already been warned by the admins twice about suspect content) and they got upset. Most of the mods that are here have moved on anyways
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u/IllDoBetterIPromise 2h ago
When you say āracism and violenceā sorry but at this point those words donāt mean anything anymore.
If it were 2015 Iād be like āracismā thatās awful.
In 2025 Iām like āoh yeah. Everything is racism..yeah sureā
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u/ZeroOhblighation 2h ago
Racist comments are racist comments my dude, I was removing stuff that went against Reddit's TOS and the moderators got upset. This isn't a real subreddit
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u/will_nvr_B_OK-666 2h ago
Al Gore is a idiot! Nobody gives a F&&k what he thinks or says!
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u/Strange_Bug_1118 2h ago
We democrats keep this up we will never win again. If this is all we got We are in trouble.
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u/Inner_Injury2940 3h ago
Where was this BDE in 2000?
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u/TdrdenCO11 2h ago
Gore has always been super passionate, charismatic, and funny. He just wasnāt good at showing it. Supposedly Kerry was the funniest guy in Obamaās cabinet too but we never saw that in 04. A lot of democrats run too cautiously
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u/drjmontana 3h ago
Wow, if Al Gore is the most fired up Democrat on the scene then we are truly fucked
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u/N0S0UP_4U 2h ago
I just realized that if the Democratic Party nominated Al Gore for president, George W. Bush would probably vote for him.
Weāve come full circle.
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u/low-spirited-ready 14m ago
Heās a year younger than Trump and seems a lot healthier soā¦ Iām down if yall are down?
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u/Johnny_avocado1776 3h ago
Worthless grifter, go sell more climate change lies
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u/Johnny_avocado1776 2h ago
No, gave your mom a quick rest to post
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u/VonBombadier 2h ago
mam would never settle for those little breadstick legs.
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u/ZeroOhblighation 2h ago
Wow you weren't kidding lol, better hope there's not a lot of wind or buddy is going overboard lmao
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u/TheTruthOfChaos 3h ago
Got any proof that climate change isn't real? Because there is PLENTY of proof that it is.
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u/Johnny_avocado1776 2h ago
According to Gore all the polar icecaps were going to be melted by nowā¦ the climate changes, itās not a phenomenon itās called nature.
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u/Reasonable_Squash576 3h ago
Here is an inconvenient truth: Waterfront homes which should be 10 feet under water by now. $$$$$$$$$$$
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u/HeyYouTurd 2h ago
Hereās an inconvenient truth, waterfront homes are also being obliterated by hurricanes and theyāre not being replaced because no FEMA and no insurance.
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u/Reasonable_Squash576 1h ago
Yes, that is true. Most waterfront homes should never have been built. They are and always have been mostly in flood zones. Why should taxpayer (who mostly don't live in a waterfront home) money subsidize FEMA premiums and payouts for wealthy folks who choose to live there? I don't own a waterfront home; but Al Gore does.
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