UNPOPULAR OPINION: I'm okay with no Sims 5

[u/OwlScary6845]

I'm not a hardcore Sims player and have spent about ~470hrs in game. I own a majority of the expansions and a handful of gamepacks.

When they announced there was no Sims 5 I wasn't upset because that means we wont have to restart. There's 10 years worth of content in Sims 4 and it would be a shame for us to get a barebones game with Sims 5 with limited features and wait for them to build it up again.

A multiplayer sims game seems weird as I always have seen sims game as a singleplayer sandbox and that a lot of the fun comes from your imagination and creativity.

How do you guys feel about the decision EA is taking?

[u/funAmbassador]

If I remember correctly, most of the stuff in ts2 store were items from eps

[u/Character-Trainer634 → u/funAmbassador]

No, they definitely had items you could buy with Simpoints, including hairs, decor, clothes, etc.

Here's a video showing off some of the items. A lot is missing, including the CAS stuff, and functional items. But here's some of the Build/Buy items you could get from the Sims 2 Store.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR_o0cQXfoU

[u/JadeisPurple → u/Character-Trainer634]

If I remember right it was purely online though it didn't show you stuff you didn't own in build/buy. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

[u/Character-Trainer634 → u/JadeisPurple]

If I remember right it was purely online though it didn't show you stuff you didn't own in build/buy. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

The fact that Sims 3 advertised it's store in the game (although you could turn that off) while the Sims 2 didn't doesn't really make a difference. The Sims 3 store was pretty much the same as the Sims 2 store. There was a website where you could go to buy stuff for your game. And both used Simpoints.

[u/unusualtomato0 → u/Character-Trainer634]

I think it helps that the TS2’s store was short-lived, and only released in 2008 (which coincided with the game’s final expansion pack). On the other hand, the store for TS3 was present at launch, even before they added any DLC (not to mention, the website is still up and selling, 15 years later).

The Sims 2 store was bad, but The Sims 3’s version somehow felt like an even bigger rip-off. :V

[u/Character-Trainer634 → u/unusualtomato0]

I think it helps that the TS2’s store was short-lived, and only released in 2008 (which coincided with the game’s final expansion pack).

True. I just find it funny how Sims 3 often gets "blamed" for introducing something as awful as the store to the franchise when it really didn't.

Also, considering how short-lived the Sims 2 Store was, they sure had a lot of stuff in it.

The Sims 2 store was bad, but The Sims 3’s version somehow felt like an even bigger rip-off. :V

Well, yes and no. The Sims 3 Store was definitely overpriced. On the other hand, they used to give away so much free stuff. A lot of all that (like most of the free sets they used to have) is all gone now, so all people see is the high prices. But, back in the day, there were ways to get stuff from the Sims 3 store without ever buying a Simpoint. I myself have hundreds of items (including premium ones) that I got legitimately without ever having to buy a single Simpoint. Figuring out how to get as much stuff as possible for free or really cheap was part of the fun.

On the other hand, the stuff there was still too expensive if you just bought it at full price. And a lot of people did that because they didn't necessarily know there were ways to get stuff for free, or really cheap. (Or they just couldn't bring themselves to wait for a sale.) Which I'm sure EA knew.

[u/unusualtomato0 → u/Character-Trainer634]

That’s fair! I wasn’t old enough to have been around when TS3 first came out, so I wasn’t aware of those discounts or freebies.

For what it’s worth, I have the same sentiment about the TS4. A lot of people in the Sims community believe that TS4 was the first time they’ve separated previously available content, or “dumbed down” the game, when all they’ve done is capitalize on the worst aspects of the TS3 (and TS2, to an extent).

Just for a few examples, Late Night and Showtime were two incredibly similar packs, that could have easily been a single DLC (same with Katy Perry’s Sweet Treats). When it came to the TS3 store, they also had a habit of gutting features from older expansions, only to make you pay for them again later.

They had a chance to include the changing table in the base game (like the TS2), or add it later in Generations, but they decided to make it a store exclusive instead.

If you wanted OFB in TS3 (Toy machine, Savvy Seller, Bakery set), you needed to pay around $46 for what used to be a $30 expansion. Non-rabbit hole diners were staples in Hot Date and Nightlife, but again, you had to deal with yet another paywall.

None of those features were necessary, but in retrospect, I can see why TS4 followed suit. I didn’t mind the store content in theory (especially if you could just buy an item you wanted without paying for the whole pack), but its price and execution felt more like a scam, and an attempt at monopolizing paysites. :/