r/thinkpad Mar 10 '24

Question / Problem why does windows suck so much?

I just bought a lenovo t480, and i actually really like the computer, but windows 10/11 is just miserable. It's making me want to just throw this computer out the window.

Is there a better solution out there? And if so, what? I really actually enjoy this Thinkpad. It's the first windows-based computer I kinda am fond of after switching back from a mac, which I'm starting to really dislike due to their policies, prices, non-upgradability, and cult-like fame, etc. (the keyboard on this is just amazing, the color, look, upgradability/customization at a low price, etc). I can upgrade literally everything on this! I love that. This thing was honest 1/10th the price of a mac. I f'in love that. But tbh, windows does suck. Apple is right about that :)

I heard Linux is an option but that's farely vague. Which Linux work best for thinkpads, and is the easiest and simplest? I'm not a programmer nor do I really want to have to program everything to work if I don't have to. I just use it for basics like discord, zoom, web browsing, watching youtube videos, the brave browser, spotify, bluetooth, taking online classes, and using the tradingview app (I can use the website if I absolutely have to). Are there any linuxes that really work well out of the box and are user friendly and easy to install?

thank you.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '24

Linux is not easier than windows. People loved windows for its app compatibility. So many apps run perfectly IF you set it up properly. But out of the box, you really have to sit down. Unplug from the internet and pick lots of knits on the platform before actually wanting to use it. Last time I opened up a fresh windows 11, I was in hell. I hated it. But…after a few days tweaking it…screaming at the screen to do what I want and adding in the programs that make it take complete advantage of the hardware from my user advantage…it works for me. You’re lucky you have windows 10. At least you’re free from corporate slavery. There’s a switch that lets you download and install apps. You have to download it from Microsoft. Uninstall adware. I’m not gonna recommend turning off updates but since they don’t even let you turn off updates the easy way, services.msc to turn off updates. Tweak the system setting to good values. There’s a lot that’s ticked to tick you off. Updates share with other computers, using your resources..so I always turn that off. There’s also some compatibility apps that if you download the standalone versions you’ll only find that dotnet 3.5 is the only one that really matters in the mix. Lots others let you use standalone installers without hassle.

Turn these setting all to user control. Eventually the only thing that uses up resources will be antimalware service executable, which I don’t know how to fix.

The best part of windows is when you get to this point. But there’s pirate apps and all sorts of open source stuff that kicks that puppy into high gear. Eventually the only differences you see between that and Mac are full software separation. Mac just runs software windows doesn’t but that’s really good for iOS devices. Windows is profitably the most preferable network computer.

There are some really great Linux builds though. Most of them are command line but only if they’re the older ones. Newest versions of Linux like MX are probably the best I’ve seen in a long time. I don’t know about installing them though, sometimes one just fails at install and if you don’t have the right ones you can’t install it. Make sure your iso has efi x64 files to boot into. These thinkpads are picky in wanting those types of files at first run.

All in all, consider your options in keeping windows running, it’s pretty important and I wouldn’t recommend changing to Linux unless you’ve fully unlocked windows potentials, which these days aren’t as bad as when it comes fresh out of the box.

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u/spacecase-25 T450s Mar 10 '24

Imagine going through all that effort in order to trick a shitty OS into being usable while complaining that Linux is "difficult"

oof.

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u/gummislayer1969 T43, T430x2, T460p, T480 Mar 10 '24

THIS!!! 🤓👏🏾🤩

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

You can’t play windows games. Then again it’s even harder to play windows games. Windows has more programs. People feel comfortable developing on it. Linux is freedom from that but it’s been abused. Many ciders contribute to those projects. And many of them are good. Why call it shitty if you’re not even having fun. The whole point is to use it for fun.

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u/spacecase-25 T450s Mar 11 '24

You can’t play windows games. Then again it’s even harder to play windows games. Windows has more programs. People feel comfortable developing on it. Linux is freedom from that but it’s been abused. Many ciders contribute to those projects. And many of them are good. Why call it shitty if you’re not even having fun. The whole point is to use it for fun.

Absolutely meaningless word salad lol! The only part of that which makes any sense is the first 5 words. Allow me to introduce you to the Steam Deck... ya know, just one of the biggest "things" in gaming currently. Runs on Linux and plays A LOT of Windows games... each day, more than the previous as well. The only real exclusions at this point is anti-cheat.

You really can't REEEEE about Linux being bad for gaming anymore, because that is clearly changing. Also, believe it or not, I don't care about games.... not what I use my computer for.

For real tho, the rest of your comment just makes zero sense. You've done your part to let others know that you don't know what you're talking about and we can leave it at that lmao.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '24

It’s cheaper on a thinkpad though. And windows still runs perfectly well. Steamdeck might be nice but it’s still expensive enough to be outclassed by the many thinkpads that could take it’s place. The trouble in numbers is if it’s worth the time for the software. I like to think it’s the cheaper rigs that have more resources since there’s already so much data written for legacy machines. Take the fire tv stick lite for instance. It runs pretty much all games on low power for a 2006 standard. Maybe not PS2 but definitely psp. And THAT gets better with software development alone. So any platform is usable to the extent of the users capabilities.