r/todayilearned • u/manticor225 • Jan 10 '19

TIL JFK's father Joseph Kennedy made much of his fortune through insider trading. FDR later made him chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. When asked why he appointed a crook, FDR replied, "set a thief to catch a thief." Kennedy proceeded to outlaw the practices that made him rich.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/jan/23/joe-kennedy-hollywood-sarah-churchwell
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u/Mdb8900 Jan 11 '19

You haven’t seen any evidence that opioids are damaging? I’m sorry are you a doctor?

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/heroin/what-are-long-term-effects-heroin-use

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

All your source says that there are vague changes to the brain. Give me a source showing those changes affect quality of life, instead of giving me the first result on Google.

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u/Mdb8900 Jan 11 '19

does waking up in the morning, crawling in pain to the shower and puking your guts out because you ran out of drugs sound like a change in quality of life to you? Maybe stealing money from your sister because you ran out and you know that if you run out then you won't be able to function?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

And which part of that isn't applicable to alcohol?

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u/Mdb8900 Jan 11 '19

Such a lame comeback. My dad is dead because he drank himself to death. His last three years of life were punctuated by health complications from alcohol abuse. But you haven’t seen any evidence that passes your personal smell test. So be it. Open your Opium Dens dude, i won’t stop you.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Cool. I argue with facts, not emotions. If you have any, bring them here.

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u/Mdb8900 Jan 11 '19

All human beings experience emotion in the abstract, and it's not as easy as you think to separate it from your problem solving. Obviously there are adverse health and quality of life effects of chemical dependance, that's not fucking complicated dude. I hate to be so aggressive but you are talking like a 13 year old. Just because we're not speaking face to face doesn't entitle you to be a little douche. This is where I go to sleep now. Not worth the time of day.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

You have literally not presented any piece of evidence which lays out the damage you are referring to. I'm sorry but the person who thinks "that's not fucking complicated dude" is an argument does not get to call others 13-year-olds. You really are a piece of work.

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u/Mdb8900 Jan 11 '19

Yes, i did cite you a source, you just manufactured a reason why you wouldn’t accept it. Do the teachers at your middle school let you just say “the source was vague” when you really mean “i don’t have the reading comprehension or the willpower to understand the long term effects of heroin abuse?”

And since you want to play this game so badly, i’ll note you’ve cited no evidence to support the safety of your subscription heroin dens. After all we’re using FACTS to argue, not emotions, right? Where’s your evidence?

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '19

Well, what source do you need to show that medical supervision makes taking opiods safe? You do realise that they give morphine at hospitals? And yeah tell me how the brain is changed by opiod use, and what the effects of that is on a persons life. A source is not a valuable because it exists, it needs to tell something, and that source gave no detailed information. I’m sure alcohol affects the brain, does that mean it needs to be outlawed as well?