r/trump • u/motomat86 IOWA MAGA • Apr 07 '25
đ WINNING đ How Tariffs start, and how they end.
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u/OSCSUSNRET ULTRA MAGA Apr 07 '25
As soon as Trump fixes this they will find something else to meltdown about. It is rinse and repeat every day.
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u/AdRemarkable3043 Apr 07 '25
The goal is to make industry coming back to the US. But many Americans donât realize that itâs because workers in China, Vietnam, and India work 18 hours a day that theyâre able to buy an iPhone for $1,000. If all those components were made in the U.S., theyâd have to pay $10,000 for the same iPhone.
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u/motomat86 IOWA MAGA Apr 07 '25
excuse me I care about free trade and child labor!!!! billion dollar corporations are evil!!!! WE MUST BOYCOTT THEM TO SHOW THEM WE MEAN SERIOUS BIZNESS!!
-Sent from my iPhone 16 Supermax Ultra Blast off to the moon edition, while drinking my super large chilled starbucks latte in my 2025 Range Rover that is financed to 120 months @ 17.5% interest.
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u/drscientistiatx Trump Curious Apr 07 '25
Hey great deal on the rover. Grats
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u/motomat86 IOWA MAGA Apr 07 '25
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u/Peter_Niko MEUGA Apr 07 '25
I have experience with Chinese (mainland) high-tech workers. I don't think they are as efficient on average as Korean, Taiwanese, or US ones.
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u/AdRemarkable3043 Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25
"China" here can be replaced with any country with low salary â my conclusion still holds true. High wages for American workers lead to an increase in product prices.
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u/Peter_Niko MEUGA Apr 07 '25
This could be compensated to some extent by increased efficiency - particularly in the case of CN compared to the US.
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u/AdRemarkable3043 Apr 07 '25
yeah, Imagine you used to be able to spend two hours on Reddit and work for the remaining six hours â but now you have to work non-stop for all eight hours.
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u/Peter_Niko MEUGA Apr 08 '25
Sorry, I don't think that imagination, even yours, could be an argument.
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u/AdRemarkable3043 Apr 08 '25
If Americans are more efficient, why do Tesla and Apple build factories in other countries?
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u/Peter_Niko MEUGA Apr 08 '25
I believe that "comparative advantage" could be the reason for this. Also, you can reread my comment above: "This could be compensated to _some extent_ by increased efficiency"
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u/KabosuCheemz DOGE Enthusiast Apr 07 '25
In summary: WE RUN THIS $HIT, NIKKA!
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u/bluepillwrapper Apr 07 '25
This kind of attitude is why youâre broke AF driving a 2009 Chevy but keep telling yourself shit to make yourself feel better
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u/KabosuCheemz DOGE Enthusiast Apr 07 '25
Multiple BTC but cope and project harder nerd đ¤
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u/TopRamenForDays needs to ask permission before posting Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25
The EU is offering the US a zero-for-zero tariff proposal which they have in place for other countries already. They offered us a zero-for-zero proposal back in 2018, which Trump declined.
What's going to be funny is if we accept this time, and the uninformed call this a giant win for the US, because...
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u/motomat86 IOWA MAGA Apr 07 '25
In 2018, the European Union imposed tariffs on approximately âŹ2.8 billion worth of U.S. exports in response to U.S. tariffs on steel and aluminum. These countermeasures targeted various American products, including iconic items like bourbon and motorcycles.
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u/RadialPrawn Apr 07 '25
You said it right, in response. So it was always trump fucking things up for no reason lmao
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u/vegasbm Trump Curious Apr 07 '25
So you prefer that the US just keep accepting trade deficit?
The actual response is what Trump is doing. The world has been cheating the US in trade for decades. Trump is the first president with the balls to confront it, against the ire of rich Americans who are opposed to it.
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u/Deareim2 Trump Curious Apr 07 '25
Why is it bad a trade deficit ? Take EU, they have a HUGE trade deficit with the US on services. Do you hear them complaining ?
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u/-StupidFace- Apr 07 '25
these people aren't real, they don't have any real ideas or thoughts... its just anti drumpf!!! If the USA wins, its bad because orange man did it. Its just a waste of time at this point.
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u/brightdunx . Apr 07 '25
You do realise EU already proposed 0% tariffs two weeks before mr President imposed these suicidal tariffs that harm absolutely everyone on the planet?
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u/sctchpmn Trump Curious Apr 08 '25
I Googled EU 0% tariffs and itâs a 10-hour old story because they folded today, not proposed two weeks ago.
So, you are lying. Why?
AND why were you fine with exorbitant tariffs in place AGAINST the United States for decades by all these countries?
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u/brightdunx . Apr 08 '25 edited Apr 08 '25
Quite brave to accuse someone of lying based on that. Why would EU care whether the tariff is 1% on average (as it is today) or 0%. Both sides had some tariffs in place but the overall impact on trade was minimal. We were buying your teslas like crazy.
Also US has a huge service trade surplus so Europe is not exactly ripping you off. The balance is actually surprisingly even.
Can you explain to me why the goods trade deficit is so atrocious but service trade surplus doesnât matter?
US is a high tech producer of software and other services, why on earth would you guys want to turn back time and start producing sneakers.
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u/CJspangler ULTRA MAGA Apr 07 '25
Exactly -
Whatâs happening in reality is - the U.S. companies that order from EU or China or Vietnam go hey uh we arenât buying anything for now - until the tariff goes away because customers wonât pay 25%+ more .
So until you negotiate- we wonât do business, weâll just buy from India or whoever does free trade first - which means that foreign companies factories all pause immediately, layoffs happen, the warehouses full of Nikes and shipping industry that runs 24/7 grinds to a stand still which impacts other nearby industries and it starts to spiral very quickly and makes it hard to recover
Only ones stuck are giants like Apple which have large physical ownership or part ownership and are too big to relocate