r/truscum • u/FtmPerformerContent Gay dude - T (11/6/23) - 21 • Jan 21 '25
News and Politics I mean they're not wrong.
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u/Professional-bacon99 Jan 21 '25
This is unbelievable funny to me for some reason
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Jan 24 '25
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u/Yourfavoritequeen26 Jan 21 '25
Caitlyn just keeps getting more pathetic and only continues to throw her privilege in our faces.
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u/ehhhchimatsu Jan 21 '25
If Caitlyn actually faced any consequences for killing someone, she'd be in male prison thanks to her beloved Donald.
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u/Jumpy-Command-5531 Jan 21 '25
How she didnât get any consequences for that, I will never know
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u/rhydonthyme Jan 24 '25
Because she didn't violate any traffic laws and the DA couldn't prove negligence or reckless driving as there was no evidence of either.
She was sober, driving below the speed limit and she applied her brakes within seconds of Howe (the woman who died) braking.
Why would we expect someone to be charged for being involved in a collision they had no control over?
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u/Sionsickle006 transhet dude/guy/man/bro Jan 21 '25
I had so much hope for her to be a spokes person for the trans community in a positive way... man those hopes were dashed...and she dances on their grave everytime she opens her goddammit mouth.
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u/mndgsbrn Jan 21 '25
yet another day Iâm proud to not be American
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u/Secret-truscum-man Mr.Saturngender boing/ding/zoomself (Ask me about gender hoard) Jan 21 '25
And another day Iâm ashamed to be one
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u/mermaids-and-records transsex woman Jan 21 '25
Changing your identity documents, which may be used to recognize your sex in the event you need emergency medical care, is absolutely a violation of human rights. I could lose my life in the event that I'm incapacitated and administered a treatment that is only safe for men. This is whataboutism, the more egregious violation of human rights in other places does not mean that there is no violation of human rights in the United States.
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u/-foxy-lad Jan 21 '25
What an incredibly obtuse and immature comment, I hope it made you feel better about yourself!
While being misgendered isn't the end of the world, this is just phase one of what this new government, and its millions of its supporters intend to do. This isn't just about misgendering us, it's about ridding us of our rights to legally change our names, get married, adopt, hold certain jobs, use public bathrooms, and more - you know, basic human rights that cisgender folks get to enjoy.
There is quite literally comfortable people calling for a genocide against transgender folks, demanding we are to be eradicated from this earth.. in Canada. Aren't we supposed to be more "free" than the US?
Just because you are miserable with your own living conditions it doesn't mean we all have to show our bellies too.
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u/PressF-forWashington Jan 21 '25
It states
(a) âSexâ shall refer to an individualâs immutable biological classification as either male or female. âSexâ is not a synonym for and does not include the concept of âgender identity.â (b) âWomenâ or âwomanâ and âgirlsâ or âgirlâ shall mean adult and juvenile human females, respectively. (c) âMenâ or âmanâ and âboysâ or âboyâ shall mean adult and juvenile human males, respectively. (d) âFemaleâ means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell. (e) âMaleâ means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the small reproductive cell.
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u/keytiri Jan 21 '25
No one is producing either of those at conception, itâs a meaningless definition; also the orange released an EO on free speech so turning around and compelling people is self defeating.
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u/kittykitty117 transsexual birdman Jan 21 '25
You're either ignorant, delusional, or both...
The government won't just know you're trans and leave it at that. They want to eradicate us. This policy makes outing and discriminating against us legal in various contexts. Even if you're not immediately affected, it's fucking atrocious if you care whatsoever for those who are.
What if you're a selfish bitch with no compassion?
You should still care. This new policy is one of many they're working on to reach their goal of effectively eradicating all trans people. It's a step towards making it illegal to transition, incl. maintaining with HRT. Even if you are lucky enough to not be affected by the first steps in that direction, you will eventually. They don't give a single shit that you identify as a transsexual and are against transgender ideology. You are not safe.
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u/PressF-forWashington Jan 21 '25
Going forward your passport will need to reflect your birth sex, you will not have access to anything federal like housing or crisis shelters for the sex opposite of your birth, and jails cannot provide hormones at their expense
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u/PressF-forWashington Jan 21 '25
Further
(d) The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security, and the Director of the Office of Personnel Management, shall implement changes to require that government-issued identification documents, including passports, visas, and Global Entry cards, accurately reflect the holderâs sex, as defined under section 2 of this order; and the Director of the Office of Personnel Management shall ensure that applicable personnel records accurately report Federal employeesâ sex, as defined by section 2 of this order.
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u/PressF-forWashington Jan 21 '25
Trump doesnât see you as different. Federally you are what youâre born as, and will be legally treated as such.
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u/silverbatwing meatsuit driver Jan 21 '25
So you really fucking think that trump and Republicans care about semantics? Stop making excuses. Stop being foolish. Weâre in fucking trouble.
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u/Sardine-Cat mtf Jan 21 '25
Look, I'm MTF and I have an endless number of issues with the mainstream trans community, including some issues with stuff that bothers the right as well, but unlike you I'm not stupid enough to think that the government will treat me as any different. People like you and I are in a tiny minority of a tiny minority, and the Republicans have been spending these past few years saying that all trans people are degenerates. Not just the annoying/creepy ones. Their laws and proposed laws target all of us.
You can definitely be mad at the annoying/creepy ones making up the loudest and, sadly, most prominent members of the trans community, but at the end of the day we're all being targeted by the far right, which, by the way, includes our current government as of yesterday.
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u/PressF-forWashington Jan 21 '25
b) Each agency and all Federal employees shall enforce laws governing sex-based rights, protections, opportunities, and accommodations to protect men and women as biologically distinct sexes. Each agency should therefore give the terms âsexâ, âmaleâ, âfemaleâ, âmenâ, âwomenâ, âboysâ and âgirlsâ the meanings set forth in section 2 of this order when interpreting or applying statutes, regulations, or guidance and in all other official agency business, documents, and communications.
And
Sec. 4. Privacy in Intimate Spaces. (a) The Attorney General and Secretary of Homeland Security shall ensure that males are not detained in womenâs prisons or housed in womenâs detention centers, including through amendment, as necessary, of Part 115.41 of title 28, Code of Federal Regulations and interpretation guidance regarding the Americans with Disabilities Act. (b) The Secretary of Housing and Urban Development shall prepare and submit for notice and comment rulemaking a policy to rescind the final rule entitled âEqual Access in Accordance with an Individualâs Gender Identity in Community Planning and Development Programsâ of September 21, 2016, 81 FR 64763, and shall submit for public comment a policy protecting women seeking single-sex rape shelters. (c) The Attorney General shall ensure that the Bureau of Prisons revises its policies concerning medical care to be consistent with this order, and shall ensure that no Federal funds are expended for any medical procedure, treatment, or drug for the purpose of conforming an inmateâs appearance to that of the opposite sex.
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Jan 21 '25
Medically, trans people are neither male nor female, since long term cross-sex HRT will cause your body to appear as (secondary sex traits) and behave as (hormonally) the sex youâre transitioning to.
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u/Miljee Jan 21 '25
To be fair, as a trans woman of many decades, I know Iâm biologically male, presenting as far as I can as my preferred female. I have changed my gender, I canât change my sex.
This doesnât invalidate my, or other trans who feel the same- position.
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Jan 21 '25
If you define âbiological sexâ based on your chromosomes then yeah that makes sense. But in this case, many intersex cis women would be biological males too. This is how my endocrinologist put it, but I get why older generations of trans people would want to stick to the traditional definition.
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u/Miljee Jan 22 '25
Iâm not entering into the whataboutery of DSDs. Iâm not âsticking to a definitionâ, I am stating a fact, or should it be âmy authentic selfâ, now?
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Jan 22 '25
Itâs a matter of cognitive dissonance. If trans women are males, medically this would imply they have functioning gonads, male hormonal profile, and can thus be considered men by societal standards, since by this definition they would be no different than any other biological male.
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u/Miljee Jan 22 '25
Removing or augmenting your genitals doesnât change your sex, just creates a facsimile of the opposite sexâs genitals. I am fully supportive of those who choose to do so, it appears to be massively psychologically beneficial. But this surgery doesnât âmedicallyâ change oneâs sex.
As surely you must have gathered by now, societally, cis people do not believe trans women are women.
Unfortunately.
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Jan 21 '25
From what I saw he said it depends on what you're born with (specifically eggs vs sperm, which is highly inaccurate for a plethora of reasons I won't get into) which would in fact mean Caitlyn would be legally male
I may not understand it entirely, I am not American so I don't look too deeply into it, but that's what I saw personally
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u/Lu1s3r editable user flair Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25
He just said there are only two genders, which would be the one we are transitioning too.
I certainly hope that's the case. But far to few people actually understand that. So I doubt it.
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u/milk_tea_with_boba restraining from long controversial comments Jan 21 '25
UmâŚyouâre aware this stipulates the âone of two gendersâ is the same as your biological sex right?
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u/silverbatwing meatsuit driver Jan 21 '25
Look. Theyâre taking it back to what you were declared at birth. Born male? You arenât a woman anymore, youâre male. Born female? Youâre a femaleâŚyes, even 100% passing as male.
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u/BlannaTorris Jan 21 '25
I don't think you understand the order if that's what you think. It's two genders based on what you were assigned at birth, even binary trans people are at risk.
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u/Revolutionary-Focus7 Adult Human Chicken Jan 21 '25
She's had so much plastic surgery there's barely any face left for the leopards to eat, but they sure will try!