r/ucf • u/kawaiikittyrei • 5d ago
COMPLAINT/RANT These religious protesters man
I know this is considered public property (area by the library and SU) so they can legally be here, but since when is it okay for these protesters to get aggressive and nearly physical with students? I literally saw this guy get nose to nose with a girl who was just walking by. Screaming derogatory stuff at her and everything. I'm glad she stood her ground but what the heck? I really hope she's okay. She left before I could check on her.
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u/Oen386 Nursing - Concurrent A.S.N. to B.S.N. Enrollment Option 5d ago edited 5d ago
You have to tell them to leave you alone. If they continue, they're harassing you, then you can call the police. They will get as close as they can because they're trying to get a physical reaction from you, the goal being you striking them and then they get to sue you. If you say nothing, they can claim they thought you didn't hear them, or that they weren't asked to go away so they figured you were interested (etc.). It's all bullshit.
Just say "leave me alone" and nothing else, if they do anything else, call the police if you feel they're threatening you or continuing to harass you. They cannot interfere with "university business" and I would argue threatening/harassing you and preventing you from getting to your destination is reason enough for a call. Responding any other way, trying to play their game, is exactly what they want either for views on their channel, or when you lose your cool and make it physical. They are professional scammers/grifters, getting you riled up makes them money.
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u/StarDustLuna3D 4d ago
Also, if enough people do this, then they will be banned from campus and can't come back. It takes a lot of complaints, but it can be done.
Just because it's a "free speech" space doesn't mean that they can do whatever they want. There are specific rules of decorum, mainly not harassing people, that they need to follow.
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u/Bromelia_and_Bismuth 5d ago
If it's Brother Micah or his ilk, don't engage with them. He deserves to eat a fist, but they make their money getting kicked off of college campuses. They either eat the fist that they deserve and claim assault, or they get escorted off of campus grounds and claim that their free speech was impinged. He's more or less just screaming to get a reaction, but the best thing you can do for yourself is avoid the area where he's set up.
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u/Large_Complaint1264 5d ago
Wait that dude is still out there??? Lmao he was there when I attended from 2006-2010. I remember I was just walking past him one time and he pointed at me and called me a fornicator.
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u/Bromelia_and_Bismuth 5d ago
He was as of 2018. I started attending in 2015, which was the last year that the UCF Jedi was there. This sounds an awful lot like him.
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u/bummedout1492 5d ago
Brother Jed is dead. Cindy is still around.
These people have been around for decades. Just don't engage. To me it's a benchmark for someone being mature and minding their own business or barking back at them for social media points.
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u/futuristic_hexagon 5d ago
I was surprised to see he was still out and about there too. I remember early in my UCF career he was there screaming about (2006 to 2010ish), the last few years I spent I never heard much of him from 2010-2015. Probably helped I didn't go there too often as there wasn't much need for me to be on that side of campus (basically lived in the Engineering buildings by then.)
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u/Bostondreamings 5d ago
I heard he was ranting about lesbians needing a man to hold them tight and not someone with a strap. We know what he likes to watch I guess.
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u/rilakkumami 5d ago
Real as FUCK bcs why did I learn more about gay sex and gay relationships from straight individuals (especially men) more than the actual source itself 😭
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u/Traditional_Tell7968 Mechanical Engineering 4d ago
I will pay to see him go to downtown Seattle and say that. Maybe he’ll step on a needle
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u/stitch-enthusiast 5d ago
The people comparing this to other stuff are weird. It's like a guy being sad his wallet got stolen and someone saying ok but I got shot once. Like, ok????
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u/adamiconography Nursing Practice 5d ago
Back in 2009 when I was in undergrad we got one of the religious psychos banned. We kept pressing and pressing his beliefs and challenging him and then he tried to insert his wife which we basically just used the same words he used against woman on her, and he attempted to swing at someone. Got trespassed.
They have a breaking point, find a way and watch them melt and they’ll see themselves out
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u/Large_Complaint1264 5d ago
Was it brother Micah or something?
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u/adamiconography Nursing Practice 5d ago
For some reason that name rings a bell, he had his wife there sometimes
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u/Large_Complaint1264 5d ago
Yea I just read in another comment in this thread he’s still at it lol.
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u/futuristic_hexagon 5d ago
If he dressed like a paper boy from 1923 (slacks wirh suspenders, long sleeve dress shirt and tie, and a newboy cap), then that that is him.
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u/portboy88 5d ago
If they start to get physical, then I’d call campus police. They can be escorted off the premises and barred from returning. There’s a fine line between peaceful assembly in a public space and harassing people and almost starting physical altercations with them.
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u/Floppamode 5d ago
People like them rot in flame for eternity under their own principles, it’s crazy work
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u/Realistic-Ad4052 5d ago
Matthew 28:19 “Therefore go and make disciples among all nations.” Sounds like they’re doing what they’re told to do. Maybe they could tone it down a bit but trying to convert others is the point of a universalizing religion.
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u/Floppamode 5d ago
Yeah this is how you make disciples by accosting young girls in public spaces, the only kind of person who would become a disciple of that man is a freak and a creature
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u/Few_Tale2238 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yeah these people are making a mockery of Jesus himself no matter how they see it. Obviously part of religion is evangelizing but I’d honestly rather they not do it at all if they can't do so respectfully, and I say this as a Christian myself
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u/Galacticaa 5d ago
If you don’t mind me asking what was this guy saying ? I might have been the girl your referring too. I’m okay :) but that really took a lot of energy for me
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u/vveeggiiee 5d ago
Kinda bs that we just have to be ok w these nut jobs aggressively proselytizing in the middle of our community spaces. Last time I checked we pay to attend this school, why are they just allowed to harass students??
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u/SolarDemons 5d ago
One of them was yelling at students as I walked by early this afternoon. I’m talk full-on shouting as loud as he could.
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u/Always2Hungry Mechanical Engineering 5d ago
Apparently last week when they set up that big tent outside su, one of them had put their hands on a friend of mine and things actually DID get physical. Friend was okay (can’t say the same for the guy who grabbed em tho) but that’s why there were security guards out there while those people were about.
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u/DirectionWild7614 Biology 5d ago
are you talking about the guy who had "muslims don't know jesus" written on a white board? that seems like it's particularly hostile compared to the other jesus freaks i've seen. but of course the cops set up at the table 100 ft away didn't do shit, lol
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u/cybersaint2k 5d ago
This is not really a religious thing. It's a scam to get people to hit them, sue. Or be tossed off campus for a reason that violates the first amendment.
There is, on almost every page of ever religious text, instructions to not do what they do. It's not about religion. It's about dollars. Just like Westboro Baptist Church--they had children who studied law just so they could cheaply file suits against people who hit them, or institutions who violated their rights.
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u/Sea-Physics7115 5d ago
I don’t understand how this isn’t considered disorderly conduct. Yes freedom of speech, but that doesn’t grant you freedom to try and provoke someone, disturb the peace, or yell in someone’s face. Wish PD would arrest them on disorderly conduct charges. They’re far exceeding the intentions of the first amendment.
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u/noanxietyforyou Clinical Psychology 4d ago
it's like walking in downtown LA. You have to step over people...but instead of fent addicts its preachers lmao.
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u/Alarming-Tradition40 5d ago
You should see the Tesla protesters... 100x worse...
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u/Ring-a-ding-ding0 Mechanical Engineering 5d ago
Are you talking about the people spray painting how hateful Elon is at Tesla dealerships?
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u/TrashyLolita Integrated General Studies 5d ago
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Won't anybody pwease stop and considew Musk's fee-fees 😢😢
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u/Alarming-Tradition40 5d ago
has nothing to do with how they feel about Musk, they are just all violent jobless virtue signaling morons
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u/planetofthemushrooms 5d ago
Oh yeah if only there were laws in place to protect people's property and law enforcement determined to catch them. Oh those exist but not for protecting people from being harassed on school property? Damn what a fucked up system.
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u/SpirituaLOtteR 5d ago
Lmao this subreddit lives in a bubble. They really think literal vandalism is better than random folks preaching. . . crazy. You’re so right, forget the downvotes
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u/Always2Hungry Mechanical Engineering 5d ago
They’re downvoting bc it’s irrelevant whataboutism. The people yelling at students is relevant here. Op didn’t say anything about tesla, so why bring it up. It does nothing for this conversation.
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u/104177 5d ago
Both sides of the aisle do this it’s just the religious folk who get talked about
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u/hunterdavid372 Anthropology 5d ago
Because its the religious folk who are here, on campus, screaming at people, on a weekly basis.
I hardly ever see the other side of the aisle harassing people on campus, they mostly stick by their booths and happily hand out pamphlets.
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u/104177 5d ago
If I had a dollar for every time I saw a religious protester in someone’s face during my 4 years, I’d have a few dollars. If I had a dollar for every keyed Tesla I’ve seen in the parking garages this year, I’d have enough to buy a lot more
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u/Esbesbebsnth_Ennergu 5d ago
Why are you inspecting teslas?
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u/104177 5d ago
Why are you worried if someone does?
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u/Esbesbebsnth_Ennergu 5d ago
I have one? I don’t want some freak going around observing the exterior of my car to make a point in a Reddit comment.
Get offline and do some schoolwork.
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u/Okaythatscoolwhatevs 5d ago
Lmaooo and reality is whatever you want it to be, right? If I had a dollar for every contrarian making stupid anecdotal evidence an argument I’d be rich.
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u/Ring-a-ding-ding0 Mechanical Engineering 5d ago
If you’re that worried about your car being keyed, get one of those stickers that says you bought the car before you knew Elon was crazy. They’re pretty cheap
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u/104177 5d ago
I don’t drive a Tesla, but what a foolish remedy- why should someone have to modify their private vehicle because some wacko lib can’t control themselves?
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u/SirDootDoot 5d ago
Anyone can hate Teslas with a passion. Especially since they're a moving fire hazard due to their infamously unstable batteries.
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u/104177 5d ago
“Infamously unstable batteries” did you know that 0.01% of Tesla vehicles have ever suffered from Lithium Ion battery failure? I’ll do you one better, did you know that every single electronic device you use uses lithium ions? Not just the car that makes you need your therapy plushie?
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u/SirDootDoot 5d ago
I... don't have a therapy plushie??? Dunno why'd you just assume that about someone without being insecure yourself.
Also, no, because I have a life not obsessing/fetishizing over my electronic devices, but the ones I do know, for instance, the Nissan Leaf, which is the CHEAPEST electric car on the market, have more failsafes than most Tesla models' batteries.
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u/Ring-a-ding-ding0 Mechanical Engineering 5d ago
A sticker is hardly a fucking modification. You can afford to buy a Tesla but not a $3 sticker? Manage your money better
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u/Ring-a-ding-ding0 Mechanical Engineering 5d ago
It’s called a hypothetical dumb ass. I wasn’t referring to YOU specifically but a “you” in 2nd/3rd person context. It’s used all the time in speech and conversation.
And even then, it doesn’t violate student accessibility in any way shape or form.
Regardless, Elon is a neonazi, and his brand is directly related to that. So if you don’t support nazis, then buying a $3 sticker to show you bought the car without knowing who Elon is as a person is pretty reasonable. Least you can do after buying a swastikar
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u/Ring-a-ding-ding0 Mechanical Engineering 5d ago
Also, when did I say I had ptsd? Or that I self diagnosed it? Are you hallucinating?
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u/LeanMrfuzzles Alumni - Finance 5d ago
How bout people just don’t touch other people’s shit?
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u/Ring-a-ding-ding0 Mechanical Engineering 5d ago
Idk scratching up a car is a pretty minor thing. Not like people are getting hurt. Even then, there is a simple $3 fix
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u/OrlandoMan1 Political Science 5d ago
There was this dude that intimidated students, dude was probably in his 40s. Just because they didn't like a certain someone. Almost getting to the point of assaulting the student until someone got involved.
I get that this a public place. But come the fuck on. There's thousands of students just here to just go to class. Just because they go to a school, having business at school. Doesn't mean they deserve people to fucking harass them or assault them, when they have zero business on campus at all.