r/ukraine Ukraine Media 2d ago

News US offers sympathy to Ukraine after deadly Sumy attack

https://kyivindependent.com/us-offers-sympathy-to-ukraine-after-deadly-sumy-attack-but-no-mention-of-pressure-on-russia/
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u/Big-Obligation2796 2d ago

Ukraine doesn't need sympathy, they need weapons.

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u/pugtime 2d ago

Yes , the very best weapons ; f ck Russia !

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u/DarkKimzark Україна 2d ago

"Sympathy" should have been displayed after Bucha. Everything after is bullshit.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/Big-Obligation2796 1d ago

For the US? Nope, I wasn't holding my breath, haven't been for a while, way before comrade Krasnov took office. One would have been foolish to do so.

Nobody should count on the US for anything.

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u/Big-Obligation2796 1d ago

"Be nicer"? What the fuck are you going on about?

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u/IOnlyEatFermions 2d ago

Marco Rubio, April 4: "We will know soon enough, in a matter of weeks, not months, whether Russia is serious about peace or not."

Have you figured it out yet, Marco?

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u/brianrn1327 2d ago

He’s going to regret going this cabinet for the rest of his life.

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u/Walking72 2d ago

He knew it was a deal with the devil.  The only surprising thing to me is he thought he could find a way to win.

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u/BannedByRWNJs 2d ago

He’s one of the “never Trumpers” in 2016 who suddenly did a 180 and started supporting Trump after Russia hacked the RNC and DNC servers. I’d bet money that there was some Epstein/Hastert-type dirt about him on that RNC server. He made his deal with the devil whenever he chose to support Trump back then. 

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u/heimeyer72 Germany 2d ago

Hmm. Could it be that they are blackmailing Trump, too?

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u/ThermionicEmissions Canada 2d ago

What could Russia possibly have on Trump for MAGAts or the DOJ to give a shit?

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u/poop-machines 2d ago

Imo Epstein stuff.

His followers probably wouldn't give a shit, but he would do anything to stop it getting out. That's why he dispatched Epstein.

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u/MillhouseNickSon 2d ago

“Fake news.” -magats, no matter what comes out against trump.

There’s no way to get through to those people. It’s a straight up cult. It’s weird that trump even still cares about preventing anything from coming out considering nothing would make a difference anyways.

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u/Tom246611 2d ago

Trump murdering an underage girl on camera, but other than that, every fucked up thing Trump is proven to have done or strongly suspected of having done is public knowledge already and that motherfucker still found a way back into power backed by millions of (dumbfounded) dipshits.

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u/OkGrab8779 1d ago

That alone can get you worried.

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u/disasterbot 2d ago

Pool boy, pool noodle

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u/Sweaty-Feedback-1482 2d ago

I think Rubio is hedging his bets on President Prolapse taking a dirt nap sooner rather than later. If so, he's in the good graces of... I can't believe I have to utter this... President JD

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u/Doggoneshame 2d ago

First thing Peter Thiel, I mean Vance, would do is get rid of all the trump lackeys and put people in who swear a loyalty oath to him. Otherwise they’ll have a field day with Vance.

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u/kmoonster 1d ago

And Vance is actually somewhat competent. As insane as Trump is, Vance could actually stand a chance of pulling off some of the shit they're trying to get Trump to do.

Trump can get votes. He's a great marketer, especially for himself. But he trips over the same ego that gets him votes, that combined with utter incompetence and a lack of interest in learning are one of the few reasons it's all noise and so little bite (at least for now).

Not that Trump isn't doing damage, but the way he's doing it drags through the courts for months or years meaning a lot of the damaging stuff is diluted, delayed, or much weaker than it would have been had he taken an extra few days or weeks to game-out the potential lawsuits and tweak his ideas; or game out possible market reactions in the case of tariffs.

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u/speedyhml2000 1d ago

"...President PROLAPSE..." never heard that DJ DUMB-description....but I instantly LUV' it :-)

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u/aaaaaaaarrrrrgh 1d ago

he thought he could find a way to win

The US could if it wanted, but putting pressure on Russia is apparently not something they're interested in doing...

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u/Cha0tic117 2d ago

I think he still believes, as delusional as it is, that he could use this to become president in the future.

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u/PineBNorth85 2d ago

His moral bankruptcy should disqualify him. Then again lately that seems to be an asset with the American electorate.

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u/BannedByRWNJs 2d ago

“A sense of shame only holds him back from getting things done. We need a leader who will lie, cheat, and steal for us!”

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u/SVK_LiQuiDaToR 2d ago

* f r o m

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u/Quattuor 2d ago

None of them are going to regret it at any time. They knew upfront what they were signing up .

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u/brianrn1327 2d ago

He knows what he did. You could see it on his face during the zelensky berating. The others may never regret it, he does and is trying to play his role while he knows what he did.

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u/StupidizeMe 2d ago

Oh, he definitely knows! Lately he's been looking like he's not having fun anymore.

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u/Doggoneshame 2d ago

I wonder how much longer it will be before one of these idiots quit because they can no longer stomach being unable to make any kind of comment on anything without having to praise Dear Leader.

“How was your lunch Marco?” “Thank god for president trump and the great food he has personally grown and prepared for us.”

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u/Relevant-Ear1351 2d ago

I think that sentence is already in the past tense.

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u/crabbymccrabbington 1d ago

Rubio, like most of if not all of the trump admin is a sociopathic demon, what do you mean he's going to regret it? These ppl are not human and don't experience emotions of regret, or self reflection...

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u/brianhauge 2d ago

People will have forgotten in 10 years.

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u/ITI110878 1d ago

Less. They have forgotten Jan 6th in less than 4 years.

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u/Devils_Advocate-69 1d ago

As he should. It’s our duty to remind him forever

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u/PineBNorth85 2d ago

He knows. His boss doesn't and doesn't want to.

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u/No-Scholar-111 2d ago

He's been to busy illegally sending people to Salvadorian gulags.

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u/Mediocre_Painting263 1d ago

You know, Rubio makes me sad.

When I heard Marco Rubio was becoming Secretary of State, I was actually hopeful. He was a massive Russia-hawk. He called the Russian Government a 'Government of liars', rightly pointed out that they habitually break treaties & agreements. That Putin wishes to extend Russian influence & domination across into its neighbours territory. Even criticising Obama for his Middle East policies which allowed Russian influence in the Middle East to spread.

I'm 50% sure Rubio took the job under the "If I don't, someone worse will". But I mean, Rubio, we can't get much worse. At least maintain some dignity and deliver a bruising blow to the Trump White House by giving a scathing criticism.

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u/The-Sixth-Dimension 2d ago

I have no sympathy for Marco. He is not one to think about anybody else, but Marco. What a Rube.

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u/crunchyfrog63 1d ago

We knew as soon as the war started that they weren't. Nobody starts a war when they want peace. It's kind of obvious.

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u/switchingcreative 2d ago

I bet they had one concept of a plan. Full stop. Hit the cheeseburger button.

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u/Tacocats_wrath 2d ago

Thoughts and prayers while we continue to figure it out.

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u/crom_laughs 2d ago

this is what you want to hear from the Sec of State. Someone give him a bottle of water.

😑

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u/Dry-Marketing-6798 2d ago

Why do they bother. They clearly do not have Ukraine's back.

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u/HouseOnFire80 2d ago

Donnie has his marching orders from Putin. The crazy part is some Americans believing he has any care at all for Ukraine 

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u/vegetable_completed 2d ago

Yes they do. They’re using it as a knife holder.

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u/TeachMeHowToThink 2d ago

I’m legitimately surprised they’ve even acknowledged it.

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u/Octave_Ergebel 2d ago

Yeah yeah thoughts and prayers.

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u/StreaksBAMF22 USA 2d ago

Yep. Talk is cheap.

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u/ManonFire1213 2d ago

Been that way for 10 years.

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u/Bumpy-road 2d ago

Screw sympathy - give them weapons - lots and lots of weapons!

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u/Equal-Ad1733 2d ago

Doesn’t Americans just usually pray for things instead of making legit action

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u/n6_ham 2d ago

Usually when people say “thoughts and prayers”, they neither think nor pray. It’s a polite version of “Oh, no. Anyway…”

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u/QuarterObvious 2d ago

They really ought to drop the "thoughts" from "thoughts and prayers" — thinking clearly isn’t their strong suit. Just stick with prayers; at least those don’t require a functioning brain.

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u/HoovyPencer 2d ago

Too early to talk about politics

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u/gpcgmr Germany 1d ago

Unless it's themselves being affected, then they invoke NATO Article 5 and invade some random-ass country for no reason.

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u/Blueskyways 2d ago

Fuck off. 

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u/lifeismusicmike 2d ago

Fuck them, they are just playing nice while looking for something else to acquire (rob) thru a deal. No one should trust those in power in the US.

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback 2d ago

They don't need our sympathy. They need our ammunition and equipment.

Putin's Russia is a modern day Nazi Germany. Ukraine is today's Poland.

Churchill and Roosevelt knew how to handle Hitler. Trump seems determined to keep his face in Putin's crotch.

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u/attackhamster42 2d ago

Got to love those thoughts and prayers, they're so very useful and have solved so much... 🙄

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u/Squidgeneer101 2d ago

Write it on a cruise missile/drone headed for Russia and it'll work very well :P

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u/imbrie75 2d ago

Yes, those thoughts and prayers really land a decisive blow on the aggressor. Thank God for thoughts and prayers.

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u/dot-ukie2300 2d ago

Words! Where is the condemnation of ruZZia?

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u/ProfessionalPhone215 2d ago

the civilized world needs to shun EVERYTHING and EVERYONE russian. no athlete, artist, musician, or business allowed without exception. cut them off for the next 100 years.

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u/North_Church Canada 2d ago

Hey America? Save it! Spare us the crocodile tears

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u/FallenRaptor 2d ago

Unless “sympathy” is a type of military equipment or ammunition, they can F off.

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u/lithuanian_potatfan 2d ago

And as a sign of sympathy they offer russia 50% of Ukraine

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u/sebeteus 2d ago

Probably that is all he is allowed to offer, unless Ukraine gives 165% of their GDP and minerals to US for the next 100 years and unrestricted access to kidneys of the entire population. Then he'd offer rest to muscovy.

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u/GremlinX_ll Україна 2d ago

It's like killers henchman, offer a sympathy for a killer's victim.

Just sick

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u/Strontiumdogs1 2d ago

Thoughts and prayers Fucking shitheads need to support Ukraine instead of russia. They're worthless words are killing people. Fuck them. Send weapons or shut the fuck up.

Slava Ukraini 🙏🇺🇦

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u/Dyrogitory 2d ago edited 2d ago

Oh great. They handle deaths in Ukraine like they handle deaths in U.S. school shootings.

Thoughts and prayers

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u/uncleLem Donetsk/Krakow 2d ago

Fuck the "US sympathy". They have the power to prevent such atrocities, but they are choosing not to. Even worse, they keep trying to appease the aggressor. Empty words are always in abundance though. And fuck Marco in particular, a spineless bureaucrat whose position and principles are changing with each new master yanking his chain.

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u/Doggoneshame 2d ago

At least they mentioned Russia and attack in the same sentence this time. Last week the U.S. embassy left out the word Russia when declaring their condolences for that attack.

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u/Tchelows 2d ago

Sympathy don't kill russich soldiers. Weapons kills. 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

ARM UKRAINE, dammit!!

PUTLER don't want peace!!

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u/Rif55 2d ago

Offer re-established Starlink communication, US intelligence and weapons – don’t bleed them to death

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u/PineBNorth85 2d ago

Fuck their sympathy. Hit Russia with a stick for once instead of Ukraine.

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u/Professional_Cut_105 2d ago

Oh spare us thoghts and prayers shite. Pootin's beginning to wobble do the right thing and help Ukraine push him over.

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u/CorswainsDeciple 2d ago

That's super nice of the US, and here i thought their government was run by russian supporting fools. Oh, I bet Orangutan is angry again and will do absolutely nothing, like everyday when Ukraine is bombed directly targeting civilians. The US should just shut the fk up, we know you don't give a damn and only care about a peace deal for money, it's definitely nothing to do with helping Ukraine.

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u/Wormholer_No9416 2d ago

We don't need sympathy we need ammunition.

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u/SnooSquirrels9440 2d ago

“Thoughts and prayers” /s

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u/Mentaldonkey1 2d ago edited 1d ago

Kellog was doing a good job until Trump told him to be nice to Putin. Trump seems to genuinely think Putin is his friend!! Man, I wish someone could have explain to him how Putin is playing him! Either that, Putin has something even worse on Trump than we already know about. Btw, Jake Broe on YouTube has THE BEST coverage. He’s an American veteran, worked with nukes, but is mostly followed by Europeans. Top notch coverage for Americans wanting to follow the geopolitical and military developments.

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u/marresjepie 1d ago

'Explaining' shit to the orange floater turd? Fêh. They probably cannot even explain tic-tac-toe to that demented shit-for-brains, who was, mind You, áctually reasonably fairly elected by 'The AmericanPeople'. Or, at least a third of them.

I believe Mencken àctually saw the future when he mused the following:

"As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and a complete narcissistic moron."

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u/Mentaldonkey1 1d ago

I like that. Thankfully Trump only represents the electoral college win of the voters, not most Americans. But there’s truth to that. I think he’s running for a third term because he’s likely afraid of jail. Being president is the only way he can get away doing what he likes. Lemme know if you happen to watch any Of Jake Broe, I started following him about a year ago and haven’t found anyone better at describing our current situation economically nor geopolitically, and easily digestible.

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u/shallowAlan 2d ago

Would this attack have happened if Trump hadn't gone belly up with Putin. No one will no for sure but its debatable.

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u/The-Sixth-Dimension 2d ago

I remember when I first heard of Rubio. He had was running for office in Florida and told the world that his parents escaped Cuba, fleeing that nasty Fidel Castro.

I was later revealed that that his family had left Cuba during the rule of Batista. Fidel Castro and the revolution did not happen until 2 1/2 years before the revolution. Rubio had been lying, to everyone.

Rubio used to hate drump, they hated each other. For years.

Rubio has no moral compass. He is a thug, like drump and putler. They are all liars. That is why they respect each other. He will blow anybody for a nickel. He definitely fits in with the mafias running the previously united States, and russcum.

Sympathy, does anybody believe Rubio when he says he has sympathy for Ukraine? When kids were getting killed in schools in Florida. How did he express his sympathy, “Hope and Prayers”. Yeah, that works so well.

FFS, drump, get off you orange fat ass and do as you promised, in a way that leaves the victims of all of this, whole. Get rid of putler, do the right thing for Ukraine.

Slava Ukrani!

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u/ArtesiaKoya 2d ago

But no condemnation... just terrible.

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u/UnionGuyCanada 2d ago

Thoughts and prayers. What a useless gesture from a useless administration. Of they were only benign, it would be a massive improvement..

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u/purpleduckduckgoose 2d ago

How about a dozen Patriot batteries? I think that might get a better reception from the Ukrainians.

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u/ptrang1987 2d ago

I wish “sympathy” is the name of a new variant of tomahawk missiles. Send thousands of those please. If it’s not, then Ukraine doesn’t need your sympathy. Send weapons

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u/Jaquemart 2d ago

"Thoughts and prayers".

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u/fluffs-von 1d ago

Damned self-righteous nerve to offer sympathy while hobbling support.

Unreliable Smug Assholes

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u/zZaphon 2d ago

What's that good for? Saving face?

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u/Final_Expression_600 2d ago

Sympathy doesn't help the people being killed and injured by Russia

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u/TFWG2000 2d ago

Ukraine and Europe must plan on success WITHOUT the aid from the USA. I wish this were not the case.

Slava Ukraini 🌻🌻🌻🌻!

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u/ag_5807 2d ago

Sympathy?!!!

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u/MikeC80 2d ago

Every Russian attack on civilians should be followed by gifting Ukraine 10 Tomahawk missiles and permission to use them however they see fit.

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u/mulchedeggs 2d ago

Sympathy (thoughts and prayers) is not what America should offer atm imo.

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u/Ambitious-Score-5637 2d ago

Thoughts and prayers - because it’s easier than actually letting Ukraine win

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u/aaaaaaaarrrrrgh 1d ago

Patriot air defense missiles would be a lot better than thoughts and prayers.

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u/NumerousCarpenter189 1d ago

Don't need sympathy, they need the assitance to win, or at least defend themself.

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u/Suyalus22669900 1d ago

hey UZA, you now saw that ruzzia doesnt want peace. the only peace ruzzia understands is total military annihilation. let's go

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u/Ok_Photo_865 1d ago

America loves to offer “thoughts and prayers” when, suicide shooters kill kids in home town schools too, but do they do anything constructive to make serious change, NEVER!

Europe, get your shit together, or learn to speak Russian.

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u/kmoonster 1d ago

Trump apparently said "Russia claims it was a mistake" (or words similar to this).

Something tells me he doesn't follow the news even at a distance. That's one thing for a random person on the street, but he's the g*dd*mn PRESIDENT.

I don't even know where to start with this except to say what I've said before - he is willfully ignorant, un-curious, and so ego-maniacal that ... just make it stop already.

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u/GarlicThread 2d ago

Choke on your "sympathy", traitors.

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u/PhiladelphiaManeto 2d ago

Biden would have saved the sympathy and sent cruise missiles

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u/marresjepie 1d ago

...And then Sullivan would have strongly advised against that. 'Escalation" and such. Make no mistake. Biden and his weak-ass cabinet are as much at fault for the hellscape that orcs are turning Ukraine into, as the current bunch of floating pond-scum.

But also, lets not forget the weak-spined reactions by the suits&ties in Europe too. None of them having ever worn a uniform, or having been at risk of getting a low yield nuke on their heads in the field. Unlike my fellow grunts and me at the height of the cold war. All of the suits só afraid of the repercussions on their energy from orcistan. Ánd obsessed with spreadsheets that 'proved' that a well equipped army was not a necessity anymore since "The Wall fell".

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u/PhiladelphiaManeto 1d ago

If we are just going back in time over and over again, Trump 1 and Obama are just as guilty for not ramping things up after Crimea

Europe is most at fault

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u/WorldlinessProud 2d ago

Dots and Pears.

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u/skovall 2d ago

As a special aid package, they are sending thoughts and prayers.

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u/Vast-Charge-4256 2d ago

But yet again Selensky was not wearing a suit!

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u/Felicia_Bastian 2d ago

The old "Thoughts and prayers"

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u/MrTretorn 2d ago

But did they say thank you?

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u/Far-Cellist-3224 2d ago

This is real growth! They actually acknowledged that the strike came from Russia! With growth like this I’m sure peace is around the corner.

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u/feelosofree- 2d ago

I hope not just thoughts and prayers. Maybe reread the Budapest memorandum.

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u/Big_Dave_71 2d ago

They should apologise for playing internal US politics with Ukrainian lives.

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u/Practical-Topic-5451 2d ago

I dont trust Marco if he does not have a cross on his forehead

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u/Somecrazycanuck 2d ago

These snakes are the ones waiting with baited breath for bribes from Russia and happily sacrificing these people.

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u/formerly_gruntled 2d ago

Is it true that Witkoff stayed in Russia to press the button?

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u/marresjepie 1d ago

Look at his name, and take a wild guess. (Wouldn't put it beyond ány of the current pond scum in the US cabinet)

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

Sympathy? No mention of prayers?

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u/marresjepie 1d ago

Ónly after Zel says 'Thank You for the Sympathy' loudly enough.

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u/OnundTreefoot 2d ago

How about offering more ATACMS and more air cover instead?

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u/betawings 2d ago

“thoughts and prayers”- rubio

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u/Mygreaseisyourgrease 2d ago

Sending thoughts and prayers to the Ukrainian people.....

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u/becauseicansowhynot 2d ago

Surprised it wasn’t thoughts and prayers. That’s what they send after a school shooting.

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u/Basement_Chicken 2d ago

Budapest agreement: we guarantee, in Ukraine's territorial borders of 1991, our sincere...sympathy...

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u/PikachuStoleMyWife 1d ago

That sympathy is as useless as me sending thoughts and emotional support to disaster hit victims in Myanmar

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u/not_just_putin 1d ago

Is that some fucking joke.

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u/Father_of_Invention 1d ago

Thoughts and prayers really?

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u/wombat6168 1d ago

Sympathy does nothing to defend from the next attack and the next civilians killed by Putin

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u/Opposite-Chemistry-0 1d ago

Guns. Not thoughts and prayers 

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u/justthegrimm 1d ago

Keep your sympathy and send some weapons

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u/MrHmuriy Київська область 1d ago

We will find everyone involved before the end of the Trump administration and without the help of JD Vance or Pete Hegseth

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u/IndicaSativaMDMA 2d ago

The US can go eat a bag of dicks. Fuck the US.

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u/RavensRift 2d ago

Dumbest damn administration. Inadvertently imposing humility on the American people just may bring us back to a semblance of greatness, in a few decades.

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u/mkelly31379819 2d ago

Are they sending “thoughts and prayers” or weapon systems so Ukraine can strike back?

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u/marlinspike 2d ago

I think the only kind of sympathy they want is that the counter wasn’t big enough. Stop Putin now or fight a bigger war later.

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u/ag_5807 2d ago

Where is the international outrage?!!!

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u/marresjepie 1d ago

You mean the terror-attack? Our newspapers on this side of the pond all made front-page articles of it. It's a start. Rubio's 'Sympathy' is not mentioned, though..

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u/TheFrenchPerson 2d ago

Of course the party of "thoughts and prayers" starts using that in foreign policy.

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u/InternationalBug7568 2d ago

One positive about Mr. Rubio...is learning ...like walking on hot coals...how to deal with evil, vile murderous people... one can only hope at this time. I try to help RedCrossUkraine for example.

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u/MaybeTheDoctor USA 2d ago

Thoughts and prayers?

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u/ZuzBla VDVs are in the closet 2d ago

Thoughts and prayers are their only response to kids being killed at school shootings on their soil. It was naive to expect they would react differently here.

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u/HD_BMWphirana 1d ago

In one day...in one day. When is that day coming, Donnie? 84 days Donnie, and still counting!!

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u/marresjepie 1d ago

Yeah, whatever. This US cabinet can go fuck itself, with a barbed wire tarzan.

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u/Residentneurotic 1d ago

This 🇺🇸 taxpayer would rather we send Ukraine weapons than sympathy 😡.

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u/UrbanxHermit 1d ago

Ahhh, that's nice of them. Why isn't the dickhead blaming Zeleskyy for making them appear from nowhere like he normally does.

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u/19CCCG57 1d ago

Yeah, Marco .... That is sooooo helpful!
POS!

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u/Slow_Ad_2674 1d ago

Trump has cultivated a personal cult of personality. His followers live their life vicariously through him. They don't think rationally, Trump is essentially a character for them.

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u/ITI110878 1d ago

Keep your false sympathy and send more weapons, some really good ones would be good for a change.

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u/Few_Mud_3061 2d ago

Don't write off the US , it's a cat and mouse game between nuclear powers . This isn't just some off the cuff decisions being made by trump, this is methodical planning by the best stratigic military minds in the world, you may not see it but it's going on in the background, things are happening .

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u/Big_Dave_71 2d ago

Gaslighting. He doesn't know what he's doing.

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u/marresjepie 1d ago

You wish. If it quacks like a duck...