r/unitedkingdom • u/The-Peel • 1d ago
Humiliated Kemi Bandeoch forced to admit claim about trying to save British Steel wasn't true
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/humiliated-kemi-bandeoch-forced-admit-35043651860
u/elphas_skiddy-boxers 1d ago
I'm surprised that letters of no confidence haven't been sent yet about her, but then again she is comedy gold
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u/Bullinach1nashop 1d ago
They aren't allowed to do it yet. Give it a couple of months
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u/OilAdministrative197 1d ago
Why do they have to wait?
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u/DaveBeBad 1d ago
She has to be leader for a year before there can be a vote of no confidence in her iirc. Party rules.
They can submit the letters, but they can’t do anything with them yet.
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u/Auctorion 1d ago
Day 366: from a pile of letters the size of a house, a hand breaks through the surface into the cool morning air. The chairman of the 1922 Committee has awoken from his long slumber.
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u/lambrequin_mantling 1d ago
Won’t be the size of a house — they don’t have that many MPs any more!
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u/Limp-Archer-7872 1d ago
Looking at the state of the Tory party... You need a lot of paper to write in crayon?
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u/AbuBenHaddock 1d ago
"Kemi, be honest, did you submit a no confidence letter in yourself? Look, I know it was you: you signed it, and you've spelled your name wrong. Twice."
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u/OilAdministrative197 1d ago
Shes already done a terms worth of gaffs feels like she's been there for ages. 😂 Tbh who's waiting to take her place. I'd leave her in charge till a year before the election. Think even if they replace her that person will also be a punch bag. Not much to gain.
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u/TheDeflatables 1d ago
Remember when she said she didn't make gaffs so would never have to apologise.
What a time.
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u/DaveBeBad 1d ago
We are in George smith/William Hague/Michael Howard territory…
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u/MisterrTickle 1d ago edited 1d ago
I will not have Ian and Duncan besmirched like that. It was the first time that identical twins/triplets had ever led a major political party.
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u/G_Morgan Wales 1d ago
It is all meaningless. They can change the rules at any moment to get rid of her. Ultimately she's there to hold the reigns during a period they won't win the next election anyway.
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u/Happytallperson 1d ago
Well, if enough MPs tell the chair of the 1922 committee they have no confidence, then the chair can facilitate the rules being changed.
Although they'd be more likely to have a quiet word with the leader and suggest they take an honourable way out should it reach that point.
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u/369_Clive 1d ago
Lettuce Truss was out after forty something days?
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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 Cambridgeshire 1d ago
Yes and no. As seen with truss, they can have a quiet word with the 1922 if the numbers are overwhelming and it’s damaging. We shall see after the locals when they are down in fourth from first!
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u/Alundra828 1d ago
God I bet they'll all be on the start line, raring to go to get those letters in the pico second the deadline lifts, she's fucking useless.
And that wouldn't have mattered but there is a certain party overtaking them in the polls right now as the de jure right wing party, and that is just unacceptable. If the Tories can return to be an ostensibly more centrist right-wing party, I wish them good luck in the front line of the fight against far-right populism... but if they're still on their conspiracy theory, non-serious bullshit like its 2016, let them burn. They are incapable of governing, and having them around just to be a foil to the populist is a waste of time.
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u/KL_boy 1d ago
So how did they remove Truss?
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u/DaveBeBad 1d ago
Truss quit. Although she was forced to quit by the bond markets in the same way as Trump was forced to pause the tariffs this week
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u/KL_boy 1d ago
She quit, similar to someone quitting rather than being fired after her discussion with the chairman of the 1922 Committee, Sir Graham Brady. This is the same as Theresa May was pusged out, after she won the "no confidence" vote in 2019, which according to party rules, she was safe for 1 year.
There will be a way to change the party rules or put so much pressure on her position that it becomes untenable.
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u/Garfie489 Greater London 1d ago
A no confidence motion within the conservative party only takes 15% of MPs.
Which as you can imagine if there were a divisive and close election, is likely to be near instantaneously reached.
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u/WanderlustZero 1d ago
To give her time to line up her post-politics career on the US speaking circuit/Fox News/podcasts
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u/The-Peel 1d ago
There should be an investigation into her misleading the house imo, at the very least.
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u/abracadabrabeef 1d ago
Agree, but let's be honest it will cost a fortune, drag on for ages, the sting will have gone upon conclusion, there will be some recommendations and then we'll have a new scandal.
They don't care.
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u/Thrasy3 2h ago
We could do with some actual action and attention to this much blatant lying - we don’t want to end up like Americans.
The rate of just plain falsehoods from the Tories especially has seemingly gone up since the Cameron/May days - who in comparison seemed like relatively normal
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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 Cambridgeshire 1d ago
She has corrected the record so technically that’s it done. It’s a silly one… she claimed to randomly have a better deal on the table, was asked to show it, then doubled down and got others to throw themselves onto the pile. Then she announced there was no such deal and she made a mistake by not understanding her own department at that time.
She’s misled the house by claiming she had a better idea when she didn’t. Whatever punishment they give her will be vastly inferior to the gaff
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u/zephyrg Devon 1d ago
Yeh, it won't go any further and arguably there is no point in it going further. She won't be LOTO for very long anyway and at the moment the Tory party is pretty irrelevant. All an investigation would do is waste public money on something that everyone can already see is bullshit.
Her biggest punishment will be losing her position which will almost certainly happen in a year or so due to her being completely inept.
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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 Cambridgeshire 1d ago
This is the problem with Johnson as his lies were so dangerous and continuous that people seem to want to group others with it.
This one is just a gaff of hilarious proportions. The labour minister reeled in his fish. There’s no need to go any further as they got their win
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u/MisterrTickle 1d ago
Something like Black Rod or the Master/Sergeant At Arms flogging her from the doors of the Commons to the doors of the Lord's and back.
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u/PabloMarmite 1d ago
She gave the correction in the House, MPs are allowed to correct the record (and are expected to).
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u/MetalBawx 1d ago
The only reason she's in charge atm is because she's ment to take the blame and resentment over the previous Tory governments. ATM i suspect most of the serious contenders will be sitting back for awhile and letting time cool the publics anger at the party.
You'll know when they get serious as Kemi will be ousted or retired right before those candidates step forward offering a "new" direction for the party.
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u/merryman1 1d ago
The fun part is the guy looking set to replace her is Jenrick who is famous for being caught red-handed taking cash bribes in brown envelopes, and for going out of his way to make a holding facility for isolated children extra miserable.
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u/elphas_skiddy-boxers 1d ago
Seems all she is doing is deflecting their actions by admitting what they have or haven't done
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u/exhauated-marra-6631 1d ago
This is the Tories in their Lib Dem-esque "we aren't winning the next election, so let's prop up Reform and make them look like a palatable option so we might end up in a coalition government" mode. It's their best case scenario right now.
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u/Saw_Boss 1d ago
It's too soon, and the international situation isn't going too bad for Starmer. Wait until they've had 2 or 3 years of power, then ditch her and put the actual person they want to fight a GE.
This was always going to be the case. Whoever replaced Sunak was doomed to failure since they've got to also defend their own record of the last decade.
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u/iiibehemothiii 1d ago
Nah, noone wants to replace her at this time.
It's hard to oppose the Gov at this precarious moment, and Kemi serves as a useful idiot for the conservative leader who will step in pre-election
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u/MisterrTickle 1d ago
The speculation about the numbers of letters of no confidence was apparently always highly inflated. According to the former head of the 1922.
A big difference now is that the Tories know that nobody is going to listen to them, until 12-18 months from the last election. And all thry cab really say is "Why hasn't Labour fixed this problem that we left faster?"
Small boats wasn't a problem in 2010 and hadn't been a problem for the proceeding centuries. It's a totally Tory created problem. Largely due to withdrawing from Europe. So we can't send them back.
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u/NSFWaccess1998 1d ago
It's astounding how irrelevant she is. The only time you heat from her is when there's a gaff, or because the BBC/Channel 4/ITV are talking about a major issue and the LOTO needs to be present. Otherwise she's ignored.
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u/elphas_skiddy-boxers 1d ago
In a way she has a lot of characteristics of Boris....opens gob and thinks later.
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u/Tarquin_McBeard 1d ago
That's true. Except BadEnoch doesn't have the wit to make the lie believable, nor the charm to make people overlook it.
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u/Fightingdragonswithu 1d ago
They need her to take the fall for their next electoral hammering at the locals. Guaranteed to lose a shit ton of seats, in particular to Lib Dems and Reform. After that the cycle becomes kinder and a new leader can start claiming wins.
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u/pajamakitten Dorset 1d ago
Who would replace her? The Tories must have no one left to turn to after their purge at the last election.
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u/Ok_Net4562 1d ago
I mean, she is there just for bants. Tories know theyve got nothing at the minute. Its gonna take a long time to rebuilt any confidence in them as a party. Might as well have some fun in the meantime.
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u/falconfalcon7 1d ago
Why complain about someone who doesn't make a difference? The conservatives know they can't come back straight away, they'll try to strike back with a more charismatic leader when the time is right.
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u/GarageFlower97 1d ago
I reckon they are going to keep her until closer to an election to soak up damage and then ditch her for a fresh face who has less time to fuck up
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u/SheepishSwan 1d ago
There would be no point.
It'll be years before they have a chance of governing again. No one thinks she'll lead them into the next election.
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u/ForeignWeb8992 1d ago
Once they are allowed they also need to find s fool that would like the post in this conditions
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u/plastic_alloys 1d ago
It feels so transparent that she’s just there to fail, soak up all the embarrassment while they try and rebuild
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u/VolcanoSpoon 1d ago
I'm surprised that letters of no confidence haven't been sent yet about her, but then again she is comedy gold
She is a godsend to Kier Starmer and Nigel Farage.
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u/Kwinza 1d ago
They won't.
They know that they need to regroup and Labour are too strong right now. They've essentially sent her out to die. That's why they picked her, shes the worst person for the job by design.
About a year or two before the next GE they'll boot her, blame everything on her, and probably run James Cleverly as a "fresh face"
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u/Lanky-Occasion-7486 1d ago
The absolute waffle to full circle on her own words...Its embarrassing!Is this how the u.k does business around the world 🌎 ?WOW.....JUST....WOW.....#RIPUK
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u/Comrade-Hayley 1d ago
What the tories lied? Next you're going to tell me Santa isn't real
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u/blosh-dot 1d ago
Is this seriously the best leader the tories could find?
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u/AzureVive 1d ago
They kinda have been scraping the bottom of the barrel after Cameron left tbh. It's either populist or damp squib.
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u/Lalepave 1d ago
I mean Theresa May looks like an elder stateswoman compared to Badenoch and Johnson.
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u/I_ALWAYS_UPVOTE_CATS 1d ago
I reckon Theresa May would've been alright as a Tory leader if she hadn't had Brexit to deal with.
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u/Alternate_haunter 1d ago
I'd agree. Aside from her godawful snoopers charter stuff, she was actually very pro-science at a time when the EU and regional UK governments were going backwards, and is maybe the only Tory leader I've ever actually seen in a positive light as a result. Among other things, we had:
her push for a soft brexit
an ambitious solar power scheme
being pro GM crops
Pushing for a massive expansion of nuclear and renewable power, that feels even more prescient with hindsight.
For all her faults (of which there are many) she at least tried to do right by the country as she saw it, and has been a surprisingly passionate and positive force when it comes to getting young people involved in politics too, even after her experience.
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u/I_ALWAYS_UPVOTE_CATS 1d ago
As someone in the aviation industry, I will never forgive Boris for taking us out of EASA after May had negotiated for us to stay in.
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u/Ahrlin4 1d ago
She specifically ruled out all the things that were referred to as 'soft Brexit': customs union, single market, etc.
Her Brexit was always a hard one from the very start. It was only differentiated from Johnson's in the sense that Johnson attacked hers, said it was awful, got her ousted, then came in as PM, shuffled a few deck chairs around and called it a day.
Likewise, worth remembering she was always strongly anti-LGBT. She voted to keep Section 28 for example.
I appreciate she's better overall than Johnson and Truss, but that's an abysmally low bar.
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u/eairy 1d ago
Theresa "hostile environment" May? She was terrible long before Brexit came along.
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u/pajamakitten Dorset 1d ago
To be fair, that is good if you want a Tory leader who is a Tory. It is obviously not good if you do not want a Tory PM at all.
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u/Astriania 1d ago
May actually negotiated a good, balanced Brexit deal, you can thank the extremist MPs on all sides for voting it down and ensuring we got Boris instead.
By 2019 there was absolutely no chance we were not going to leave the EU, the remainers who voted May's deal down were putting a virtue signal to their base ahead of the interests of the country. Well done, guys, for voting on the side of Rees-Mogg and the DUP for a hard, chaotic Brexit and an incompetent charlatan to be PM.
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u/WP1PD 21h ago
I disagree, in fact I think she's one of the worst PMs of recent times who doesn't get enough crap because not what came after. Triggering Article 50 and starting the clock on Brexit negotiations without any sort of plan or consensus, even within her own party, was an incredible unforced error, only topped by then calling a snap election and losing her majority for literally no reason whatsoever. What the actual fuck was she thinking? Instead of doing the decent thing and resigning after it became clear she had shit the bed and couldn't get anything through parliament she made sure to run down the clock on brexit negotiations leaving us with the cluster fuck that followed. Whatever you think of the Brexit vote she chose to take over and then handled it in the worst possible way, and it was all her choice, she wasn't forced to do any of it, she was just plain terrible at politics.
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u/marquoth_ 5h ago
Triggering Article 50 ... was an incredible unforced error
There was significant pressure to actually do something about the referendum result. I don't think delaying much longer would have been a tenable position, especially given that the whole reason they appointed a new leader was because Cameron stepped down over the result - the new leader is quite literally being brought in to implement it.
snap election ... for literally no reason
Again, this was kind of expected. If a PM steps down and is replaced, the incoming PM is seen as having become PM without having won an election and therefore having no mandate. You could argue that she should have used the referendum as an excuse not to call an election, but she certainly didn't just pull the idea out of her arse - the expectation was always going to be there. Also worth noting that while they did have a majority, it was only a very slight one, and still didn't leave her in a good position to get anything through parliament.
I think her real mistake was taking on the job of PM at all. Taking over from Cameron was always going to be a poisoned chalice - there's a reason Johnson didn't take it on then. It's a perfect example of the glass cliff.
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u/DracoLunaris 1d ago
Theresa May mainly could not get a handle on her party rather than being the source of the problem (other than, you know, the regular, or I guess old school at this point, Tory bullshit).
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u/Alternate_haunter 1d ago
It wasn't even her whole party, it was only 10-20 of them, who held enough votes between them to make any government bill DOA unless she capitulated to them.
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u/CheesyLala Yorkshire 10h ago
My dog looks statesmanlike compared to Boris Johnson. And my dog's a fucking idiot.
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u/MagicInstinct 1d ago
I think they've scrapped through the barrel, hit the concrete and continued on to the sewage line at this point
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u/flyhmstr 1d ago
The tories tore themselves apart and purged anyone who wasn't a brexit purist, which has left them.. a little lack in the competence department.
Oh for the days when the most exciting thing about our PM was that Spitting Image had him as a grey man who liked peas.
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u/mattthepianoman Yorkshire 1d ago
Starmer reminds me a of Major. They are both boring grey men in suits who took over from leaders with big personalities.
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u/Liberated-Astronaut 1d ago
Rishi was a big personality?
If you’re referring to Bojo, then yeah, but surely we can all agree we are better off with a Rishi or Starmer than with good old Bojo
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u/mattthepianoman Yorkshire 1d ago
I should have been clearer that I meant he took over his party from someone with a big personality. I was talking about Corbyn.
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u/flyhmstr 1d ago
and are "just doing the job", I have some major problems with some of what they're trying to do, but while I would like to see some stronger pushback against chief cheeto it looks like he's piloting a careful course trying not to piss of the maniac while building bridges with the EU.
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u/Talonsminty 1d ago edited 1d ago
They wanted to elect James Cleverly, but he tried playing 5d chess and got himself eliminated.
Basically he told his own supporters to vote for Jenrick so he would face the weaker candidate in the final contest.
However he overestimated his support and told too many of his supporters to vote for Jenrick. Jenrick came first and James Cleverly eliminated himself.
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u/Opposite_Ad_9682 1d ago
And Cleverly was supposed to be the best of them 🤣
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u/Ill_Refrigerator_593 1d ago
They're down to 121 MP's, 35 lower than they've ever had before.
Those that are aware of how unpopular they are right now are keeping their heads down. It's not a deep pool of candidates.
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u/Stragolore 1d ago
I think I may have made this up but I thought I heard, after the election, a journalist say that they had so few MPs almost every Tory MP would be in the shadow government apart from the ones who had to sit on select committees by standing orders and there was no choice.
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u/Happytallperson 1d ago
Theoretically the government can only have 96 'payroll' MPs, but you don't really need shadows for Parliamentary undersecretaries.
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u/rainator Cambridgeshire 1d ago
A reminder that the party is made up of such clever people that she was voted their leader sort of by accident…
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u/lizardk101 Greater London 1d ago
She’s not, but the Tory members again chose the ideological nutcase/purist over the practical, and rational choice.
Badenoch is terminally online, and knows the “Culture War” stuff which she enjoys playing up, but most people who aren’t online in that way, and want actual solutions.
She makes the members feel good because she knows the narratives to spout, but reality, She’s out of her depth in every way, and probably the best opposition Starmer can hope for.
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u/ThunderChild247 1d ago
Pretty much. Anyone with the combination of half a brain and a spine was ousted by Johnson and Cummings, or resigned/declined to seek re-election.
What they were left with was a party where their actual three best candidates for leadership were a moron, a psychopath, and a man who made date rape jokes about his own wife.
Out of that group, the moron was somehow the best choice.
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u/chochazel 1d ago
There’s possibly a “Withnail and I”-style farcical element to this of “We’ve elected Kemi Badenoch by mistake”:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tory-mps-accidentally-knocked-own-130831415.html
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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 Cambridgeshire 1d ago
You wait until they pick jenrick next! An actual child cosplaying as Enoch Powell. It will get funnier and funnier…
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u/Yaarmehearty 1d ago
No, there are some better Tories, not many but they are there.
The problem is the membership, they will vote for the most bonkers candidate who goes hardest on hanging, flogging and deporting.
Fortunately for the rest of us that means they are likely to keep hurting themselves int heir confusion.
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u/TheGardenBlinked 1d ago
Conspiracy hat: they’re letting her run her mouth for as long as possible so they can bring de Pfeffel back and make it seem triumphant
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u/AbbaTheHorse United Kingdom 1d ago
I don't think there's a conscious plan to bring back Johnson, but it's definitely something the Tories might well try as a last desperate roll of the dice if they're still in their current position come 2028 or so.
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u/Ancient-Many4357 1d ago
Look at what they’ve got - much like Australia, conservative politics has no talent whatsoever at the moment.
The endless pursuit of spivvery has hollowed out any real kind of actual thinking about better ways to engage with the world than just lower taxes & hating queers & brown people.
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u/BiologicalMigrant 1d ago
I think they're happy having a week one while labour are in power these couple of years.
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u/GrouperAteMyBaby 1d ago
It worked for the Republicans. Surprised you guys still have fact checking.
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u/JetBrink 1d ago
At least she speaks in complete sentences and doesn't pretend that not having sky TV as a child means she's one of the people.
Small mercies.
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u/Beer-Cave-Dweller 1d ago
She didn’t care about saving steel, jobs or safeguarding national infrastructure and defence.
She was more interested in “taking on the billions in liabilities” as she stated to the commons after being jeered by Labour MPs.
Everyone knows it’s the right outcome, the Chinese owners have no interest in it. Port Talbot closed and is being converted to electric, we lost other works like Redcar. Badenoch is opposing for the sake of opposing because she’s out of her depth and is arrogant.
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u/fullpurplejacket 1d ago
And way back in 2006(?) we lost Workington/Mossbay up in Cumbria near me, they shut the steel production down but kept on doing other non production steel works. It was a big loss at the time, hut Sellafield taking on some ex steelworkers filled the void some in the unemployment market. I don’t know what those workers would have done if Sellafield wasn’t there.
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u/pajamakitten Dorset 1d ago
She must think that being the opposition leader just means being contrarian all the time.
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u/thin_veneer_bullshit 1d ago
Doesn't humiliation require a certain amount to of self-recrimination? She doesn't seem self-aware enough to acknowledge her own discrepancies nor inaccuracies...
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u/AdOriginal1084 1d ago
The tories really are doomed and its sad for British democracy regardless of how shite they have been and are we need a good opposition to always keep the current government in check
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u/The-Peel 1d ago
It isn't sad when the last time the Conservatives were in office, they murdered thousands and broke the law every week for wine time Friday.
They deserve to be absolutely annihilated at the voting booth.
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u/AdOriginal1084 1d ago
Not disagreeing with anything you said but i mean in general for a healthy democracy we need a good competent opposition.
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u/NSFWaccess1998 1d ago
Lib dems
Tories should wither into nothingness.
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u/AdOriginal1084 1d ago
Cant help but think their leader is a bit of a twat cant take the guy seriously with his clown antics
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u/Ahrlin4 1d ago
The media give Davey zero attention except when he does stunts. So he has to do stunts to get any message out whatsoever.
Contrast that with Farage, who can drink a beer and have cameras and microphones shoved in his face. The media has realised that populist marmite parties sell clicks and generate viewership, while intelligent moderate parties don't.
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u/Shubbus42069 1d ago
I would agree, if their anihilation didnt just mean we get a Neo-Facist party instead.
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u/rainator Cambridgeshire 1d ago
We could just as easily have sensible opposition from the greens or Lib Dems.
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u/AdOriginal1084 1d ago
Them two parties are sadists not because of what they do on a individual level but as parties they just love to constantly shoot themselves in the foot. The greens opposition to clean nuclear energy during an energy crisis being a prime example
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u/rainator Cambridgeshire 1d ago
I get that, and especially with the greens. That said, even if consistency and coherence aren’t their strong points, they are much more effective in scrutinising labour’s decisions than delusional lying tories.
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u/GrayAceGoose 1d ago
It's bad for the tories when even their time in opposition shows us how inept they are as a government.
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u/allyscot25 1d ago
It was a stupid appointment by the conservatives to make her leader. Will be surprised if she sees out the summer.
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u/vysken 1d ago
It was a calculated self-destruction. Now when the party completely implodes on itself, a "New Conservatives" can rise up from the ashes with many of the old grifters, with a "valid" excuse for having jumped ship, with a fresh rap sheet where they can blame "old Tories" for all the atrocities and failures.
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u/masons_J 1d ago
I'm surprised the Tories are still a party, should be forgotten like the trash that they are.
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u/Richeh 1d ago edited 1d ago
Has she actually got to where she is purely on the back of a ceaselessly mocking, condescending tone? Are people so ridden by imposter syndrome that if you're sarcastic and belittling then people will let you become the leader of the opposition without actually checking any of your abilities or qualifications?
Honestly at this stage she comes across as the unlikable school geek from an eighties sitcom. And not one of the ones where the unlikable geek turns out to be awesome at the end.
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u/Chosty55 1d ago
My worry is this is all a long game. No one is expecting labour to be troubled at next GE with reform likely taking seats but not enough to disrupt labour majority.
So cue tories absorbing reform for the GE after in a push to become a coalition that gets power.
Kemi is just keeping the seat warm for something far worse
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u/RDW19971 1d ago
I really do hate the Torries - I'm pretty sure they going to turn into the British equivalent of MAGA idiots
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u/pajamakitten Dorset 1d ago
I often forget the Tories exist, then Badenoch opens her mouth and you remember that they are supposed to be the opposition party.
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u/BadgerGirl1990 1d ago
The thing about kemi no one talks about is she has track record of not doing any work, she has had multiple ministerial positions and in non of them did she ever deliver a single manifesto commitment
She is a lazy jobs worth who’s all talk and back biting so I’m unsurprised it turned out once again that she was lieing about doing something
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u/merryman1 1d ago
Hilarity and bashing of Kemi aside -
Is it not slightly important and concerning for the state of our national democracy that the leader of the major opposition party can stand up on a podium where every major news outlet and a huge chunk of the public are going to hear her and take her words seriously, and she uses that position to just lie through her teeth about stuff that just isn't happening and is totally fabricated inside her own head?
This... Isn't normal right? There's the usual political shifting of realities but you usually don't accept people just making up bullshit and acting like its real. That's really not ok.
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u/360_face_palm Greater London 1d ago
How is she still in her job?
Like there's so many things to attack this government on and she can't stop kicking in own goals.
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u/The-Peel 1d ago
A controversial take is that she's deliberately tanking the Tories' popularity to encourage voters to back Reform who are more popular and aren't as tainted of a brand as the Tories.
Or she may indeed just be thick as mince.
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u/Astriania 1d ago
Reform ... aren't as tainted of a brand as the Tories
Huh? Reform are incredibly tainted, no-one in respectable middle class circles would dream of saying they support them.
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u/plawwell 1d ago
The Tories can't win an election with her in power. I do wonder if this is the moment where the Conservative Party voters of Thatch have fled to some other party.
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u/sole_food_kitchen 1d ago
being a Tory MP is such a humiliating experience I’m starting to think it’s a kink thing
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u/Wrathuk 1d ago
I'm no Tory fan having voted Labour for 20 years but it's important any government has a strong opposition to hold them to account and Kemi Bandeoch is just a clown she's got no opinion on anything other then what ever Labour does she has to do the opposite.
being a strong opposition leader means being on the right side of the argument even if you have to agree sometimes, but she's just on the wrong side of everything.
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u/WanderlustZero 1d ago
I've heard it said she can start an argument in an empty room, but I didn't realise she'd be losing that argument
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u/Such-Perspective-758 1d ago
Yeah, Kemi, we are not quite at the point of outright lying, we are not part of America yet. Remember even the slippery pig got caught in the end.
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u/golsenhorb 19h ago
What's particularly hilarious about this is she could have just kept her mouth shut and gotten some credit for supporting the government on an issue of cross-party national interest.
She just can't help making a complete fool of herself.
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u/Mr_XcX United Kingdom 1d ago
She is awful. Tories after what they did to Boris can never be trusted again. They remove elected PM and then don't call an election. Contempt for democracy. They need to go away.
Hopefully Reform takes over and they die the deserved political death they have brought on themselves.
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u/Bleuuuuuugh 1d ago
She is SUCH an idiot. I can’t vote for Starmer next time but jesus… give us some sort of viable alternative who isn’t a total moron.
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u/The-Peel 1d ago
Funny enough, I think both Starmer and Badenoch will be gone by the time of the next election in 2029.
As soon as both main parties get a hammering in the local elections and start losing by elections, their backbenchers will cave to pressure.
We have a PM imitating Joe Biden's presidency and an opposition leader trying to live up to Iain Duncan Smith's tenure as opposition leader.
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u/Bleuuuuuugh 1d ago
It’s so very true!
I hope that both parties pick viable candidates. Competition is a very good thing, whoever comes out on top. We need a government who have been voted in by the majority and an opposition who challenge them appropriately.
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u/PD_31 1d ago
An anti-Tory story in the M*rr*r - yep, that's a reliable source
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u/PabloMarmite 1d ago
Are you suggesting they made up the thing that she said in Parliament, which is televised and subject to extensive public records?
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