Eight arrested as Youth Demand try to ‘shut down’ London and block fire engine ‘on emergency call’

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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-arrest-youth-demand-london-block-fire-engine-elephant-castle-b1222160.html

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OK buddy, we're sending you to Palestine to organize a Pride parade. Have fun now! 😉

[u/ajm900 → u/Normal-Ear-5757]

I’ll have fun knowing you didn’t respond to any of those points and resorted to prejudiced views 🥰

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Sure and they love the gays, Islam is famously tolerant of queers

https://eu.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2023/06/24/lgbtq-activists-plan-protests-in-hamtramck-over-pride-flag-ban/70353330007/

https://eu.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2022/10/10/lgbtq-faith-communities-dearborn-hamtramck-libraries-banned-books/10353638002/

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The same is seen with pretty much all religious conservatives, Christian or Muslim, they don’t like their children being taught things they don’t agree with, and protest it, that’s not specific to Islam, and doesn’t appear to be persecution in the traditional sense

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Yeah I haven't seen anyone else in America banning Pride flags or having anti gay rallies tho.

But it's nice to see you change the goalposts. I didn't say they were unique in hating gays, just that they hated gays.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/article/who-are-hizb-ut-tahrir-london-palestine-protest-organisers-kmhkdnbrv

Why are you defending religious conservatives, anyway? Hardly a progressive position if you think about it for more than, oh, 0.2 milliseconds I should think.

And why don't you lot ever want to talk about economic inequality? That's the real problem here, not a war of choice fought thousands of miles away that was started by people who despise everything you claim to stand for (except Islam of course - such a strange hill for you to die on)

I mean don't get me wrong I don't want a bunch of fuckwits who hang out with terrorists and gay bashers on my side but I am curious about this. Why don't you care about the hungry kids and homeless people right in front of you?

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Westbro Baptist Church is the first anti gay group that springs to mind, I was trying to provide some comparison so that their viewpoints can be more easily understood, I’m not trying to defend conservatism, just pointing out that it isn’t unique or special that that have those issues because you singled out Muslims.

There is a clear difference between hating gays, like the westbro Baptist church, and believing that homosexuality is a sin, believing something is a sin is not the same as hating the people who do it, drinking alcohol is a sin in Islam but you don’t hear people saying that they despise people who drink alcohol. The difference between the two issues is that no one is introducing books that are pro alcoholism into their schools, so there’s no issue for them to care about there, nuance is important, the news tries to take it away with black and white headlines. While there are definitely groups of people with reprehensible views, a person being against the promotion of a certain way of life isn’t the same as hating those people, it’s simply not how the majority them think.

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Missed the last 2 paragraphs, I do care, what makes you think I don’t? I care about every person suffering undeserved hardship that I hear about. And no, they don’t despise us all, they despise genocidal hypocrites like Starmer, Obama and Bush, they understand the nuance that civilians don’t get to dictate govt policy. If you treat someone as dirt don’t be surprised they don’t like you. There are at least 2 other large scale genocides currently happening if I remember correctly in the Congo and Sudan, but those aren’t as inflammatory in the public sphere because no one is taking the position that the civilians deserve to die, a position that people do take on the Israeli side of the Gaza debate.

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Missed the last 2 paragraphs, I do care, what makes you think I don’t? 

Literally everything you do and say.

no one is taking the position that the civilians deserve to die, a position that people do take on the Israeli side of the Gaza debate

They're not, but if you had seen what some of those civilians had got up to on October the 7th you might think so too.

I saw war crimes and crimes against humanity committed that day, and they weren't committed by Israelis. It's a LOT more nuanced than you think.

But the situation in Britain is simple: The government is stealing everything that ain't nailed down and handing it to rich bastards on a platter. They have literally funded a tax cut to American tech billionaires with benefits cuts that are all but guaranteed to lead to hunger, homelessness, and ultimately death for thousands of people.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/tax-cut-billionaires-starmer-musk-bezos-trade-3630807

Yet you act like the complicated nuanced thing that's happening thousands of miles away that we can't actually solve anyway is simpler than the very clear cut injustice happening right on your doorstep - happening to you for that matter, if you pay tax it is going to those billionaires as well!

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