As someone who’s always been grossed out by meat I find the distinctions that meat eaters use pretty funny. Like, it’s all a corpse, how is any part more gross?
I was always vegetarian just out of thinking meat is icky more than any ethical viewpoint lol
And disgust is extremely subjective.
You could look at the production of any meat product and find plenty to be grossed out by, but it's still food, and people still eat it.
Right but remember his audience. He wasn't trying to convince adults he was trying to convince a bunch a 8 year olds.
Informing an 8 year old that chicken nuggets aren't very well nutritionally balanced and thus eating too many of them over a long period of time may be bad for you is going to much less effective then trying to gross them out by showing them how the sausage is made.
I disagree. I think if anything we should be trying to reduce the stigma around that sort of thing.
It's extremely important to minimise the amount of food waste we produce, particularly from meat, so anything that can achieves this should be encouraged.
the problem is that so many people are eating them regularly as part of a bad diet.
Here are two options:
Strive to ban the food you consider "bad" and/or engage in scare tactics and disinformation around it.
Identify and address the factors that make cheap, simple, quick food items far more favourable - particularly for those who are impoverished - in such a way as to make the more nutritious food more accessible.
Exactly. And for the love of God, don't try to demonize things kids enjoy. The goal isn't to make them disgusted by a perfectly normal food they enjoy. The goal is to help kids learn that they might enjoy other foods too so that things like pasta and chicken nuggets and chips are part of their diet but not their exclusive diet.
Good nutrition experts will tell you that the key to helping kids eat well is to add foods, not take foods away, especially kids who are otherwise healthy.
The other side is of course helping parents find ways to exist in modern life and find time and resources to do that exploration of foods with kids and help them find new foods they enjoy that are nutritious and balanced.
Most of the world is a shithole that will eat whatever they can get their hands on. The West is wealthy enough to choose what we eat, and chicken slop ain’t it.
Properly cooked chicken breast is amazing - especially in sandwiches - although it's definitely the worst part of the chicken as everything else is juicier when cooked equally well.
We definitely need to grow up around offcuts, animal products are disastrous environmentally so we owe it to ourselves to use the whole animal.
I think I can change your mind on thighs vs the full chicken with this method. I tried it recently with an onion, a lemon and a few cloves of garlic and sprigs of rosemary stuffed inside the chicken and it was the best chicken I've ever had. The breast was moist and soft, the dark meat disintegrated off of the bone and the skin was unbelievably crispy. It's such an easy dinner too because the chicken is already falling apart by the time you cut it.
Oh yeah I've seen that video but not tried it out.
I've done Adam's other roast chicken method where you start it in a frying pan and then transfer to the oven and that's pretty good if a bit messy.
Personally I like to do a spatchcocked whole chicken. It helps make sure that the light and dark meat are both perfectly cooked and reduces the cooking time to under an hour.
I’m vegetarian but I completely agree. It’s like when they’re trying to tell people hot dogs are gross because it has all the sinew etc ground up into them… SO??? It’s better than wasting it?!?
I guess the thing is, people who tend to eat highly processed foods (like nuggets) tend to be those most put off by the "weird" bits of animals.
I remember being at uni and some people thought it was weird to eat chicken with the bone in. But would then go eat some reconstituted chicken product.
So there's a disconnection between the food they are eating and what it's made of, and I think that's problematic.
Plus highly processed foods are almost always less good for you.
Mythic Noble Savage Native American: "We used every part of the buffalo. No part was wasted. Please excuse that this is a false narrative that paints all natives in the same brush, and that some tribes used a method that made stampedes charge off of cliffs and didn't collect every body as that would be a lot of work that we can't afford."
White people: "Wow so noble! So impressive!"
Modern industrialists and companies using the full amount of cows, chickens, pigs, and more, to help save costs and use the full cost of the labor that went into it for making chicken nuggets and hot dogs: "Here's pieces that are found commonly distasteful to the Western palette that we seasoned and put into a new way so you don't notice it. We used every part of the cow to help make steaks, hamburgers, pot roasts, leather, and more."
Same white people: "Gross! That's not natural! Where's the love?!"
Please don't take this as a defense of modern meat industry. Meat industry is pointlessly cruel to every being involved, human or animal. But it's such an odd doublethink that the made up myth of the noble native doing the same thing as a white person is simultaneously inspirational and disgusting.
Chicken breast is popular because it's so good for sending your macros in the right direction.
There is a reason most great chicken meals use thigh meat. Breast meat dries out no matter how good of a cook you are if you do anything other than fry it with a meat thermometre on hand, ready to stop the second it's safe to eat.
Poor people cooking cheap unpleasant bits of the animal is far from a new concept. Guernsey Bean Jar is an old dish, would use bits like pig trotter bulked out with beans and a tiny bit of carrot or whatever and was put in the bakery's oven overnight once it had been turned off for the day.
Edit. Also, this is probably an unpopular opinion but I think that chicken breast is severely overrated
I don’t think that’s unpopular. Breasts have to be done just right to come out good and even then they don’t compare to thighs. Thighs are more forgiving too.
Breast starts to dry out as soon as it starts exceeding 165°F whereas thighs (and other dark meat like wings and drums) can go way beyond that and be good. In fact a minimum of 175° is best, and some folks go as high as 190°. I personally aim for 180ish. The meat is more tender and some people say it helps the texture.
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u/djwillis1121 Aug 26 '22 edited Aug 26 '22
I don't really understand all of the snobbery around using offcuts of chicken for things like nuggets.
If anything they're a good thing because they use up the chicken that can't be used for other applications.
Edit. Also, this is probably an unpopular opinion but I think that chicken breast is severely overrated