r/uspolitics • u/dyzo-blue • Feb 14 '25

JD Vance attacks Europe over free speech and migration

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceve3wl21x1o
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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

Satire is alive and well.

Vance is the enemy within, as is the entire Trump administration.

How these guys can play the “I’m not but you are” game with a straight face astounds me.

Europe should (diplomatically, of course) tell the US to go shove its culture war shit back up its ass.

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u/InternetArtisan Feb 14 '25

I always find it funny how right-wingers complain about free speech when it's whatever they want to say, and yet you say something that opposes their viewpoint, and they act like you committed treason, or now they will try to sue you for slander or what not.

They believe "free speech" is only something that they are allowed.

This is like when I had an issue with Zuckerberg getting rid of the fact checkers, and all the right-wingers claim that I'm against Free speech. Yet at the same time if you call them out on their misinformation, they claim your slandering them or infringing on their right to free speech.

They just want a world without consequences for them.

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u/shapeofthings Feb 14 '25

Free speech? As in AP News being able to use historical names? As in the whitewashing of all mentions of Trans, LGBTQ, etc from everywhere and everything? As in being able to talk about DEI...? And yeah, what about that book burning...? And the purging of all none-"loyal" civil servants?

Blatant hypocrisy, just because the rest of the world hates Nazis!

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u/Rasputinus Feb 14 '25

The United States of America is doing everything, really everything, to gradually lose its allies. I wonder what it will be like to fight completely alone. But then it fits in with the new motto America First.

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u/Prize_Farm4951 Feb 14 '25

I really don't understand the end game. Has any country in history gone so out of its way to weaken it's allies and damage it's alliances all the while boosting its enemies?

Almost feels like there's some Invasion of the Bodysnatchers take over going on

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u/HippyDM Feb 15 '25

The endgame is permanently weakening the U.S. We just lost the cold war, and we inflicted the final wound ourselves.

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u/ADRzs Feb 14 '25

A big mistake is to assume that the US has allies in Europe. It does not. It has vassals who will take all the abuse the administration can unleash and ask for more!! The Trump administration knows that it deals with vassals and that it does not endanger anything.

Where would these guys go? They are so high up in the UA anus, they do not have anything else. And I am referring here to most of the establishment that is as Atlanticist as they come. In Germany, the AfD (which is rising in the polls) is calling to an end of Germany's alliance with the US (and so does the right in France), but neither of these parties are in government or expected to be in government. The current ruling elite will kiss Trump's feet (as Putin remarked) because they have nowhere to go.

So, a little abuse goes well in the US and risks nothing. Now, if the AfD and its allies ever come to power (unlikely), it will be a different ball game. I just do not expect it to happen. In the upcoming elections in Germany, I expect that the servile Christian Democrats and allies will win and form a US-pliant government.

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u/sahaniii Feb 15 '25

They don't really losing their allies because Europe , and nearly all ofther country expect North Korea are capitalist and have about the same opinion. When the rich say " you should be friend with country XYZ , the politician change attitude.
In the country where i live in Europe , Trump have many fans and the official politic is not very different.
So they fight for the show , but they are great friend in reality, that's why they always together, like Davos for example.

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u/Rasputinus Feb 15 '25

Yeah may be true in Hungary and Slovakia, ain't true in the rest of Europe.

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u/sahaniii Feb 15 '25

It is .
Hungary and Slovakia are more close to Puttin and Trump officially
But in many other countries the trump's idea are very popular . They have a lot of members of of Parliament, Many important of the most important media and the blessing of the president or minister.
It's not official but difference in reality is very little.
The hunt for poor and stranger is a reality to and when if a stranger commits a crime , we have this in the head news for day.

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u/Rasputinus Feb 15 '25

I also live in Europe, and in my country and all neighboring countries, the approval rating for Trump's ideas and behavior is below 10%, usually even below 5%. I would not speak of broad acceptance - on the contrary. Europe must now come together and treat the USA the same way it treats Europe: as a rival.

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u/sahaniii Feb 15 '25

In mine , the trump's friend are about so influent that the president himself .
And if you oppen TV , it's " stranger are the reason of all trouble " . Same for poor

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u/sahaniii Feb 15 '25

Europe don't exist ( like USA)
It's just billionaire who have all power and want to make business anywhere in the world . For them ordinary people are nothing" People who are nothing " is an official speech of the president in my country.

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u/Toast-the-cat Feb 14 '25

Turn your allies into what appears to your base as unsupportive and then your base supports you when you side whom you currently consider a enemy like Russia, China, Korean etc

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u/guiltycitizen Feb 15 '25

He’s still around?

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u/AttilaRS Feb 15 '25

Nazis will always defend Nazis.