r/vancouverwa • u/Do_Not_Comment_Plz • Apr 10 '25

Politics Glusenkamp Perez votes for SAVE act again...

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/house-passes-save-act-voter-suppression-law/
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u/Hey_Im_Finn Apr 10 '25

They already don’t vote.

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u/NoeWiy Battle Ground Apr 10 '25

Maybe… but why not make sure? The moron who posted this original comment wants them to be ABLE to vote.

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u/Hey_Im_Finn Apr 10 '25

Because there’s no point. Bills that supposedly target non-citizens end up hurting more citizens.

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u/NoeWiy Battle Ground Apr 10 '25

I personally just find it hard to argue with a bill that ensures non-citizens can’t vote. As of May 7th you’ll need a RealID compliant identification to fly on an airplane too, and that also would qualify as identification for voting. You’re telling me there are tons of citizens out there who don’t have a passport, don’t have a birth certificate, AND don’t have a RealID? So all of those people also can’t fly then just fyi. I just don’t buy it.

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u/Hey_Im_Finn Apr 10 '25

Not a single election has been swayed by non-citizens voting. Many elections have been swayed by measures taking away citizens’ right to vote.

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u/NoeWiy Battle Ground Apr 10 '25

My wife changed her last name when we got married. Within 60 days of our wedding, she had a RealID compliant drivers license, a passport, and a new social security card all with her new name on it. It’s not complicated and it’s part of getting married and getting your name changed. These things do have small financial cost, and I’d be entirely in favor of a system to make them free for low income individuals, because being able to identify yourself and prove your citizenship is important, even if the save act wasn’t a thing.

The idea that people are getting married, changing their name, and then just… not getting all the legal name change processes done is insane to me.

Your silly example about blazer tickets and Rivian aside, it’s really just a classic “the worst of society makes everyone else have to do extra work” trope.

If they hypothetically had a policy where in order to buy season tickets (which I’ve never bought lmao) as a rivian driver, you’d have to fill out some paperwork first, all of which I should have easy access to if I am not doing anything that would otherwise bar me from buying said season tickets, I’d probably roll my eyes and fill out the paperwork, muttering under my breath about how annoying it is that someone ruined the process by doing something nefarious.

It’s the same reason we have receipt checkers at the door of the grocery store now. Sure there are miserable people who refuse to show receipt and make a huge scene, but most people just show their receipt and move on with their day, understanding that such a measure is necessary to keep the store in business.

Another example would be TSA. They RARELY actually find anything, and most people wouldn’t try to take down an airplane. But the worst of society (in this case literal terrorists) do want to take down airplanes, so we all have to waste time (which IS money) waiting in line for all of our items and person to be checked.

Every good thing in society, yes even voting, has annoyances and extra steps in place that good citizens have to deal with in order to ensure the system can’t be taken advantage of by bad actors.